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What a bunch of horseshit. Above his pay grade? No, it really isn't. This is his Oath of Office:
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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What a bunch of horseshit. Above his pay grade? No, it really isn't. This is his Oath of Office:
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Nah... you better be ready to make that shit permanent if you ever try to enact it, because there's gonna be a lot of people who will be happy to do nothing for $2,000 a month rather than go try to find a job that pays them more per month.
Captain Zyrain
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That really needs an asterisk because they're in New York and they're now counting unconfirmed deaths as deaths.
JordanN
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switchback27
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Ol' KJU don't want no part of the COVID-19 train. He's got a bunker stocked with NBA games on videotape and good Hennessey.
I may be mixing up his tastes with his old man's.
Xyrmellon
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New York reported 818 deaths today according to BNO, which jives with their averages over the past couple weeks. I know they added 3900+ cases yesterday but a lot of trackers haven't counted it for whatever reason.
infinitys_7th
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And lots of sexy NK women on hand. They are pretty hot when they aren't subsisting on rations, after all.
Those 3900 are presumptive. Basically DeBlasio decided that ANYONE who died in NYC died from Coronavirus even if there was no proof of that.
DeafTourette
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I'm hearing that 100 new cases in SK sprang up from people who RECOVERED from COVID-19!
I thought they build a resistance to it once recovered?!
I thought they build a resistance to it once recovered?!
infinitys_7th
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You have a source for that? I'm not seeing anything from Google.
DeafTourette
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It was on the first 3 results in my Google search (South Korea Coronavirus reactivation)
South Korea Sees Rise In 'Reactivated' Coronavirus Patients
"A study into how immunity is developed after COVID-19 infection is still ongoing," Jeong Eun-Kyeong, the director of Korea's Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said.
www.newsweek.com
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Setzer
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Chances are those people never fully recovered. The test has a pretty high false negative rate according to a couple of studies.
https://www.livescience.com/covid19-coronavirus-tests-false-negatives.html
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Yeah, this came up a couple of days ago. We can only speculate for now, but it doesn't seem to be happening on any kind of massive scale. Also, this might be a partial explanation.
Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
If he is so concerned he can give them the cash. I bet he does what Trump don’t...
cryptoadam
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I would trust SK, they don't fuck around. For now I don't think they have given an explanation and most experts do think you get immunity, but its still up in the air and wait on the SK to give some sort of confirmation.
WhiskeyDiver
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Oh I speed past people at work and in public. I avoid all unnecessary interaction with everyone. I got tested 3 weeks ago, and I forgot to mention it, got tested again last week. I think 2 negatives is pretty good.
And yeah. The fact the potential for possibly contracting it out of nowhere due to possibly millions being asymptomatic is always on my mind. thats why I have more high quality masks and boxes of quality gloves. I'm not panicking or freaking out. I'm just doing all I can in a practical sense to mitigate the chances of contracting Covid-19 as much as possible.
DrAspirino
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....and THAT is the main reason those checks are being laid out: there will be no jobs. According to the New York Times, right now there's a 13% unemployment rate on the US and situation is only getting worse.
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bitbydeath
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Nope. It's in the same family as the common cold. There is no immunity, people will just continue to get it over and over again when exposed.
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Money ain't going to mean much if it's just the government printing and no one's working.
Kagey K
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The people that are taking advantage of all the deferrals of bill payments are the ones that are going to suffer when this lifts and it all goes back to "normal"
If you have the money, pay it. Pushing it off isn't going to help you in the long run.
They are going to aggressively collect those payments when the time comes, and I haven't seen any legislation anywhere preventing it.
Captain Zyrain
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I do wonder who will get screwed more in the end.. The people who pay their bills and play by the rules or the people who try to take advantage of every loophole and hope to be forgiven in the end.
I don't think you have to be a scientist to know this ...
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JordanN
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Well, if this virus was made in a Wuhan laboratory, what if the scientists modified it so people can never recover?
Just saying...
llien
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Check my post on the previous page, basically, it's explained by recovery taking long and at some point balancing near the sensitivity threshold of the test.It was on the first 3 results in my Google search (South Korea Coronavirus reactivation)
South Korea Sees Rise In 'Reactivated' Coronavirus Patients
"A study into how immunity is developed after COVID-19 infection is still ongoing," Jeong Eun-Kyeong, the director of Korea's Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
This is not about the test. Which may or may not have been wrong (they do the two negative tests in 24 hours strategy). They had symptoms, then had no symptoms, then were tested negative, then had symptoms again, then tested positive.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Well, the 100 might just be those that got reinfected with obvious symptoms. There would be a much bigger amount of people with a reinfection that have no symptoms. SK is one of those countries with massive amounts of testing, their CFR is only 2 %. Comparable to Germany, which also does massive testing (and unlike the US with 5 % CFR or Italy with 13 %). Going by the German and SK data if you have 100 symptomatic reinfections you could expect around 9x as many with little to no symptoms. Which in the case of SK would mean that around 10 % of people can get reinfected. And that's fucking bad.Yeah, this came up a couple of days ago. We can only speculate for now, but it doesn't seem to be happening on any kind of massive scale. Also, this might be a partial explanation.
Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
If he is so concerned he can give them the cash. I bet he does what Trump don’t...www.neogaf.com
There was also another study regarding this that showed that while some recovered patients had a ton of antibodies, others had barely any. Which of course then allows for reinfections to happen. Which is why the WHO states that at this point it is unknown if a previous infection actually leads to immunity. Nobody knows. Some do, some don't. And that's bad news not only for natural immunities but also for vaccines.
The Lunch Legend
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This is some scary shit.
LemmingWithaParachute
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Do you remember seeing those articles years a go talking about wanting to reduce the use of hand sanitizer and antibiotic usage to prevent a super bug from evolving from common flus etc?
eot
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The skydiving paper is classic, people should read it
eot
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Tales from your ass. You do get immunity against the common cold, in the sense that you're immune to the specific virus that infected you, however there is an abundance of different viruses and you're not immune to all of them. The symptoms are similar because they're largely caused by your body's immune response.
bitbydeath
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Don't confuse cures with treatments.
What we do against the common cold and Covid is a treatment. There are no known cures.
Common cold - Diagnosis and treatment - Mayo Clinic
www.mayoclinic.org
eot
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This has nothing to do with what you originally said or what I replied, which had to do with natural immunity.Don't confuse cures with treatments.
What we do against the common cold and Covid is a treatment. There are no known cures.
Common cold - Diagnosis and treatment - Mayo Clinic
I didn't say anything about cures or treatments.
bitbydeath
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eot
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Your immune system defeats viral infections by creating small molecules called antibodies that neutralize the virus. These antibodies are different for every virus, and if you contract a new virus your body needs to "design" an antibody that defeats it. However, if you survive the infection, those antibodies still circulate in your bloodstream (at much lower levels). This stops you from being infected again, because the antibodies neutralize the virus and the body can quickly produce more. That's what grants you immunity. Vaccines can give you immunity by tricking the immune system into making antibodies by injecting some particular molecule that isn't actually the live virus.
A cure is just a treatment that works, it doesn't imply immunity.
LemmingWithaParachute
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llien
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It's one of the two official languages in his country (and the only one official language until 2005).
The second one is Swahili, which wouldn't be understood in half of the country (which speaks Bantu).
bitbydeath
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Antibodies only last for so long, they are a temporary measure, they aren't a cure.
This is why you don't just get a single flu shot and be done with it.
When those antibodies expire you can in fact catch the exact same virus again.
How long the current treatment lasts is the question.
llien
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No, not like that.
Immunological memory - Wikipedia
Essentially immune system has an arsenal of cells against known threats, which trigger once that threat re-appears.
Kazza
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We need him in the UK, our officials just can't get the message across:
Also, if Boris was as fit as the Ugandan President then he would never have been put in intensive care in the first place:
diffusionx
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No, the reason why you need a flu shot every year is because there are a lot of different variations of the flu. Essentially scientists look at the flus that are emerging in some parts of the world and make a vaccine for it by the time it gets to our shores, hoping that it it will cover whatever we get. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't.
The Scrivener
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Afternoon NeoGraphers! What's the latest propaganda graph today? Did we flatten or fatten the curve today? /s
In America they're starting to protest in the streets for the return to normality, and I don't mean that new commie phrase, the "new normal", I mean normal normal.
I'm jealous. Absolutely no talk of that in this part of the world. You wanna talk oppression, parts of Slovakia have communities held under the gun.
spectator.sme.sk
Remember, we in Europe baby, not the third world.
Also, I heard about this today from the Alex Jones podcast:
Quite scary propaganda that. See beyond the mask; Jesus doesn't wear a mask. Our new religion is the medical tyranny. Boy, I'm stoked for my Gate's vaccine, when's it coming Lord?
In America they're starting to protest in the streets for the return to normality, and I don't mean that new commie phrase, the "new normal", I mean normal normal.
I'm jealous. Absolutely no talk of that in this part of the world. You wanna talk oppression, parts of Slovakia have communities held under the gun.
NGOs criticise government for steps taken in Roma settlements - The Slovak Spectator
PM Matovič called on them to take their masks, gloves and backpacks and rush in to quarantined settlements.
spectator.sme.sk
Remember, we in Europe baby, not the third world.
Also, I heard about this today from the Alex Jones podcast:
Quite scary propaganda that. See beyond the mask; Jesus doesn't wear a mask. Our new religion is the medical tyranny. Boy, I'm stoked for my Gate's vaccine, when's it coming Lord?
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