saintjules
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It's amazing that since December, they're still talking about the specs like this. I wonder who really thinks about that once they start playing games on the Console.
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It's amazing that since December, they're still talking about the specs like this. I wonder who really thinks about that once they start playing games on the Console.
Neo Blaster
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Is 5nm RDNA2 chips even a thing?
sircaw
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Your are a bottom feeder I know it !
I actually do have those too, for my loaches lol
geordiemp
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5nm is a thing, but apple will gobble it up first and other high end / mobile high price stuff. Consoles wont get a look in for a few years. That tweet is probably sarcastic unless its a high end 4000 bucks surface model.
List of TSMC 5nm customers and their orders published
AMD Zen 4 and RDNA 3 chips, Nvidia Hopper GPUs, Apple A15 mass production in 2021-22.
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Tiago07
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I had doubts yet, but he clearly said "720p-1080p portable" so have some chances.
saintjules
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Games Dean
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Remind me who won the league tho?
sircaw
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THE:MILKMAN
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Remind me who won the league tho?
Only Leicester truly won the Premier League. All the others bought it!
MasterCornholio
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sircaw
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That'll teach ya
That glove is way to short, up to the shoulder please
That will really show him.
And no, i don't want a picture lol
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Wraith Phantom
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Accelerated transition to a gaming crash. Who is that suppose to Entice $70-$90/£65-€70 games. How is that a selling point to casuals or anyone really.When they can take the family out to cinema/theme parks/meals/ other bills for that price. Considering unemployment thst going to hit now & to next year.This a fuck up waiting to happen.
Next gen going to take some L's. I guess just like this gen. Its going to be average until 5 years in.(2016/17). Gaming industry about to get them jobcuts & closures. With this nonsense pricing. Gamers need to step up & not support this nonsense. When does price increase stop?
Just because the industry is overspending & CEO's given themselves super bonuses. We should not pay for that. As a collective we need to kill off this price increase immediately.
Yeah next gen ain't popping until 5 years in. Industry has to take financial loses. Only way they are going to respect consumers. We cant accept these price hikes. Where will the hike stop? I think these companies think covid lockdown profit numbers are real. In reality Its just a 1 year anomaly spike. Not a forecast for next 3 years.
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MasterCornholio
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That glove is way to short, up to the shoulder please
That will really show him.
And no, i don't want a picture lol
MasterCornholio
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I would be as well.
Don't worry I'll never post anything crazy like pictures of Tub Girl
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sircaw
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I would be as well.
Don't worry I'll never post anything crazy like pictures of Tub Girl
No, i am not going to google that.
Be strong.
MasterCornholio
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Yeah don't ever Google it. I was tricked into looking it up and the images are pretty disturbing and gross.
sircaw
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Stop trying to Manipulate me...............Remain stronge.
Essex spelling there, fs.
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Crimson_Fate
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This is why the DE will never be my first console.
I may pay $70 for an game plus 1 year of DLC (COD ,Zombie Army) but never for a base game that I need to pay PS+ to play. I'll either play those cheaper on PC or Wait 9 months and pick up a copy in the walmart bin for $10
Neo Blaster
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You all complained about loot boxes, DLCs and microtransactions, now see what you did!!!
Fortuneelsewhere
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I don't have any problem.. you believe what you want to believe.. MS they are masters of sound bits and fancy words.. I can bet not all their first party will be 60 FPS.. that is not how consoles work.. of course they should know this by now..
MasterCornholio
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You all complained about loot boxes, DLCs and microtransactions, now see what you did!!!
Those games will still have all that stuff in them.
Leyasu
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I will believe what I see. I also won't take offence to 30fps games next gen. Because there will be lots of them on both consoles.
thelastword
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Wow nice. I told folk things are going to get interesting with TV's towards the end of this year. I have a Xiaomi phone, it's excellent. I know their TV's will be too and also affordable for many....Xiaomi is now going to seel OLED TVs:
Xiaomi unveils its first OLED TV
Xiaomi has launched its first lineup of OLED “Master Series” TVs in China, starting with a 65-inch model at a pretty interesting price.www.engadget.com
65" at around $1,800... good price
Hey Bo this channel '2 minute papers' is brilliant agreed. I get your drift about the young'ns won't appreciate as much the revolution that's happening cos they ain't experienced the 8bit era, they've grown accustomed (hardened) to these cutting edge breakthroughs as part of the norm. Ya musta been a very talented sperm to play test-drive thoIt is a very, very interesting matter, and that channel is a wonderful channel to keep watching its updates. Those newborns mofos won't appreciate that as much as we'll do, they've never tried 8-bit gaming.
Ditching silicon for carbon? I think it's another major step ahead when terabytes are like gigabytes today, before going to quantum computing! Exciting times ahead of us.
It's crazy how that YouTube channel is moving from where he's showing advancements in algorithms to speed up stuff like navier-stokes fluid dynamics and other complicated physics to ray-tracing, and all of a sudden a massive shift to training neural networks to do these same things exponentially faster!! It's madness would never have guessed they would start using machine learning for stuff like this. Object recognition and self-driving cars is a natural fit (to replace what we do naturally) but AI accurately guessing the outcome of the chaotic motion of double pendulum and other crazies is like witchcraft
But honestly I don't think this will ever lead to real consciousness, machine learning are still deterministic, they learn (find) the fastest algorithms to achieve set goals. Quantum computing is where the key to consciousness lies. Check out Roger Penrose and Hameroff research if any of you are interested. Sir Roger Penrose is a BADASS scientist to say the least, have a look at his take on the big-bang 'Conformal Cyclic Cosmology', I don't wanna pretend to be an expert but his theory sure makes a lot of sense from a 'relativity' point of view!
Aaand whats all this got to do with next gen consoles... absolutely nothing
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Pretty sure amd already said 7nm+.
BattleScar
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Consumers always want more from the games. Nowhere does that hold more true than on online gaming communities.
More more more.
Better graphics, bigger worlds, higher resolution, higher framerates.
All of this costs money. That extra cost is passed on to the consumer.
The AAA bubble will eventually burst. But this is why you see MS and Sony reducing the number of megablockbusters and will invest in those middle-sized projects to keep their platforms profitable, but also keep prices where customers are happy
More more more.
Better graphics, bigger worlds, higher resolution, higher framerates.
All of this costs money. That extra cost is passed on to the consumer.
The AAA bubble will eventually burst. But this is why you see MS and Sony reducing the number of megablockbusters and will invest in those middle-sized projects to keep their platforms profitable, but also keep prices where customers are happy
Throttle
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The CPU jump should be much more than that. Just look at the frame rates you can get on PC with an old 4 core Ryzen:I created a chart to show generational differences.
This should help visualize what we are getting in the PS5.
I tried to [scale the blocks] to show the differences in performance/memory size/bandwidth.
Created in Google Drive using Google Drawings.
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Neo Blaster
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Perfect timing, Richard, right at the moment when Lockart's CPU is being promoted over PS5's.
Well the area for the PS5 CPU is greater in height (harder to see) and of course much greater in width.
I have it at about 3 to 4 times difference in size (from base PS4).
Your wish is my command.
Five times might be more accurate (dual threading, slightly more than twice the clock rate, larger caches, 2x IPC!!!), so I adjusted the diagram in the original post:
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
This gen you’ll see 4K 30fps or 4K dinamic 60fps... and I’m ok with that as long as they use some RT effects also.. I want to see more photorealism, enemies on screen effects etc. I'd rather res was lower and upscaled than focus a large chuck on 4k when the upscaling methods are so good now.
The GPU (size shown) does not take into account much greater RDNA2 efficiencies over GCN 1.2 used in the original PS4. I think the difference is more along the lines of 7 to 8 times. Might adjust that. edit: I have made that adjustment. Refresh!
EDIT: added the DMA engine to the Tempest 3D sound engine as Mark Cerny says it has it's own DMA.
EDIT: added the AVX difference.
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Dodkrake
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That was not the point.
BadBreathOfTheWild
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It's an older video.
Neo Blaster
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Sorry, my bad.
LmfaooooSorry, my bad.
Sorry, my bad.
Video was old, and I saw that, but the point you made was correct.
From a developer:
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DrDamn
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Three Jackdaws
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thanks for sharing the video, for all their faults DF produce a lot of informative content and really allows us to gain a good perspective and insight on current and next-gen technology.
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Three Jackdaws
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I'm confused too lol
sonomamashine
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AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA that's what i call a bad timing.Sorry, my bad.
Barakov
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Sounds like his backside. Thought this guy was reputable.
Ptarmiganx2
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I am going to try my impression of a young person, bare in mind i'm almost fifty.
It looks FUCKING DOPE.
I try using my age as an excuse on why I get my butt kicked in battle arena games. I even went and had lasik to restore my 20/15 vision. My wife still kicks my butt.
Gone are the days of dominating Mortal Kombat at the arcade for 2 hours on a single quarter.
Neo Blaster
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Looks like sarcasm as was previously said here. Why would a former PS5 engineer know about classified info about Lockart?
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ArcaneNLSC
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MasterCornholio
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ArcaneNLSC
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Is that what the confessionals are for?
Priest walks in to the confessional box after like....
devilNprada
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Preorder date yet? I have a feeling pre-orders are going to last a whole ten minutes online...
TLZ
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