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[Rean no Kiseki]

Phil seems like a nice guy, but he's full of shit.

 

[Panajev2001a]

What do you mean trying?

Xbox has the better back compatibility feature and is going to support last generation, neither things PS5 is doing better than the XSX. So Xbox clearly are the better pro consumer platform no trying necessary, now it all about let everyone know by repeating constantly.

They support a selection of games from the older generations and they are pretty equal in terms of BC for the previous generation, but BC is one of the many aspects a console is about. Nobody is taking BC support away from MS just people constantly over selling anything some people say or whisper every day if a blogger is present.

 

[Dnice1]

Click bait headline. He never even mentions PS5.

 

[SlimySnake]

Well first of all, the thread title is wrong, because he didn't say that about ps5, and it entices console wars.

Secondly... There is no right or wrong way to view this. It is what it is. I personally think it's common sense to support the previous console for a while, not a long time. You're kidding yourself if you don't think the Ps5 will also be mostly cross gen for a while. But yes, Sony DOES push the new system more at launch with stuff that won't work on the old console. However... HOWEVER... Nothing they have shown yet would be impossible on the PS4, and with a few changes could be done. Yes, even ratchet. And also............. we have no idea what MS is cooking with their first party games. Phil has also gone on record to say the XBox one won't hold back their SXS first party, and that means that more than likely, there will be two versions of games.

The stupid thing is, MS are right here. Don't forget the other console, give people a chance to upgrade. That makes perfect financial sense. Sony could do the same, but won't, because they know people will buy the new console purely for the exclusives, even if those exclusives are not taking advantage fully of hardware.

But alas, none of that matters. People know where they stand, and what they think. Phil could have come out and said we are ditching the old console and have 100 exclusives, and the goal posts would move again. The guy can't win. And yes, a lot of that is due to the early handling of the Xbox one, which was a disaster. But that wasn't him, he wasn't in charge then, and since then he's turned a sinking ship into a damn good system. Sony good? No. But still good.

Either way, the problem, as usual, is nobody here has bothered to read the actual article, and has just gone right into attack mode. If they did, they would know he wasn't slagging off any system at all.

But why let facts get in the way of a bit of drama.

Well, the original article is from a gamesindustry.biz interview and the answer was framed as a reply to Sony's strategy of next gen only exclusives.

But what does this Xbox strategy mean for the games its studios are making? In another recent interview with Jim Ryan, we asked him if he would consider following a similar model to what Xbox is doing. He responded by saying that "it is time to give the PlayStation community something new, something different, that can really only be enjoyed on PS5."

Sony is tasking its studios to make games that are only possible on the more advanced machine, whereas Xbox is asking its studios to make games that can work across generations. It's a difference that's sparked online social media debates over whether the Xbox studios are being held back as a result.

"Frankly, held back is a meme that gets created by people who are too caught up in device competition," says Microsoft's executive vice president of gaming, and Xbox chief, Phil Spencer. "I just look at Windows. It's almost certain if the developer is building a Windows version of their game, then the most powerful and highest fidelity version is the PC version. You can even see that with some of our first-party console games going to PC, even from our competitors, that the richest version is the PC version. Yet the PC ecosystem is the most diverse when it comes to hardware, when you think about the CPUs and GPUs from years ago that are there.
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Yet regardless over whether developers feel able to fully take advantage of the Series X, the point for Xbox is that it's more important to be accessible. Nintendo may make game that you can only do on Switch, and Sony may build games that can only be played on PS5. But that's just not something Xbox wants to do.


"As a player you are the centre of our strategy," Spencer concludes. "Our device is not the centre of our strategy, our game is not the centre of the strategy. We want to enable you to play the games you want to play, with the friends you want to play with, on any device. On TV, the Xbox console is going to be the best way to play console games. Xbox Series X is the most powerful console out there and it will have absolutely the best versions of our console games. But that's not to exclude other people from being able to play.

So actually, if you read the article you would see that they are talking in relation to the PS5.

We know consoles have cross gen games for the first couple of years as third party publishers wait for the audience to build up the userbase. Which is why it is so crucial for first party publishers to show up with next gen exclusives in the interim. it's literally their only job. You're right. Sony's games looked underwhelming, but they looked underwhelming despite being next gen only. Can you imagine how underwhelming cross gen games from MS first party studios will look like?

People aren't upset at him for making a comparison to Sony or bringing up Sony or PS5 or PS4 or whatever you think they are upset over. People are upset at him supporting the xbox one beyond its expiration date at the expense of this next gen console he's trying to sell us. Let's not try to move goalposts here.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Exactly. He never mentioned the PS5. He is saying that he does not support releasing games on the Xbox Series X that are unavailable on the Xbox One on the first day, in order to force people to buy the Series X. And obviously he means first party, because, 3rd party can release only on the XSX if they so wish.

People here really have reading comprehension problems... Have you people ever seen letters or words before...? How do you know how to use a keyboard?

Lol he doesnt mention the PS5 but it clear as day what hes talking about.

" Gaming is about entertainment and community and diversion and learning new stories and new perspectives, and I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games. Or to force someone to buy my device on the day that I want them to go buy it, in order to partake in what gaming is about.

He's not taking about the Nintendo Switch or Stadia..... He's countering Sony's comments about PS5 having games only the PS5 can play And not being cross generation.

He's doing it in a way where he's talking about his platforms ideals, but trying to say what Playstation is doing is completely counter to what gaming is.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It is not concern for the Xbox more reaction to the empty rhetoric bordering on doublespeak these interviews have. "We do not care what device you play on" is evident BS... "We do not care from which device you access Xcloud" also questionable (hint: not a Sony console for sure )... "Generations" are anti consumer... "Exclusives for the next generation are anti consumers" (except when they do it)... "(timed) exclusives are anti consumer" (while making Tomb Raider exclusive for one year)... etc... same person, but cannot ever be blamed as it is always someone else in MS's fault.

 

[CatLady]

I think this is something you need to discuss though. Why arent you concerned? You like the xbox series x being the most powerful console right? You like that it has 12 tflops? 3.6 ghz cpu and velocity architecture. Why would you be ok with the tflops only being used to render native 4k, the cpu just being used to render 60 fps and the velocity architecture only being used for loading?

This shouldn't just concern sony fans. it should concern everyone.

I'm sorry you're concerned, but I'm not because I believe games will look amazing on the XsX, just as Xbox One games do on top of the line PCs.

The only games I've seen that look next gen so far are Flight Sim 2020, Hellblade and Project Mara. We already know what Flight Sim looks & plays like and hopefully in the 1st party showcase we'll see enough of PM & HB to see if those teasers are real. I have no doubt Halo will look amazing.

I also know CyberPunk and Valhalla will look & play best on the Series X. Consequently I'm not vaguely concerned.

 

[hyperbertha]

Phil has been going on a savage PR spree.

It will certainly trigger hardcore PS fans, but these interviews aren't aimed towards them, instead its towards the casuals and everything he is saying, the average gamer will love what he is hearing.

This is a perfectly executed PR 101 game from Phil, he addressed the power issue and now is going full on with the pro consumer messaging, be it with backwards compatibility or last generation support for at least a year, neither things you can really disagree or clown him for.

Why are you so glad about his propaganda? Do you have stakes in MS? What he says about generations is factually wrong, It might work on clueless casuals, but for anyone with a clue, his vision is boring, and not what generations should be about. Couldn't care less if his fake 'pro consumer' speak gets a few morons buying into MS, their loss.

 

[Aion002]

Cool.... Let's wait and see how that will play out... I honestly have a bad feeling about it thatt theymight change thing's up just like in the beginning of this gen, if they get the feeling that Sony is being more successful with the PS5.

Because Xbox already have a history of changing plans at the first signs of struggle (kinect, tv tv, always on and so on).

However, I hope that they stick to their plans, because many Xbox fans are happy with it and Xbox needs an identity... They had one on the 360, then they choose to become Kinect thingy, then it become a tv tv on One and now it's services... Again I hope that it will work it out for them.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Well, the original article is from a gamesindustry.biz interview and the answer was framed as a reply to Sony's strategy of next gen only exclusives.


So actually, if you read the article you would see that they are talking in relation to the PS5.

We know consoles have cross gen games for the first couple of years as third party publishers wait for the audience to build up the userbase. Which is why it is so crucial for first party publishers to show up with next gen exclusives in the interim. it's literally their only job. You're right. Sony's games looked underwhelming, but they looked underwhelming despite being next gen only. Can you imagine how underwhelming cross gen games from MS first party studios will look like?

People aren't upset at him for making a comparison to Sony or bringing up Sony or PS5 or PS4 or whatever you think they are upset over. People are upset at him supporting the xbox one beyond its expiration date at the expense of this next gen console he's trying to sell us. Let's not try to move goalposts here.

People are upset at him because he's Phil Spencer, head of Xbox. That's why. There isn't anything else to it. You know that if Sony had said this, people would suddenly start taing about how progressive it was and how it's good that more people can play their exclusives, because they can't play them on pc...yet.

I happen to think that it's fine, personally. And I also think the games that will be shown on the 23rd will be damn good, and surprise some people at how next gen they just may be, but who knows. Let's wait and see on that one.

Lets not forget that the Ps5s biggest game that's getting all the buzz right now... is actually a PS4 game with a few changes (Spiderman). The actual game could Be done on PS4 with minimal changes.

But let's not beat around the bush... even if MS have shit tier exclusives again, the majority of people buy these consoles for third party titles like COD and Fifa. And those will undoubtably be cross gen for a while at least the first years worth. (And better on XSX as well by their very nature) So is all this sky is faint stuff REALLY that bad...?

 

[DeepEnigma]

So The Medium will be able to be played on XB1 OG Spec?

 

[Mister Wolf]

I'm really glad Microsoft places a value on framerate.

 

[quest]

I deleted my previous msg.

Anyways I find Phils msging very off putting... I buy into generations, because I believe in advancement of tech - as long as the value is there.

To me it seems, they felt like investing into next gen exclusive titles wasnt worth it (risk) at the start of the gen. Because there will be less market for it. They played it safe.

Its just my shtty opinion and for the people saying consumers are getting screwed for having next gen titles at the start of a generation, seem delusional (im sorry).

This stuff is all very silly.

So how many big time from scratch exclusives does sony have at launch? Naughty dog? Nope? GG? Nope over a year out. Spiderman? Nope dlc of a ps4 game cross generation lol? Sucker punch? Nope demon souls? Nope not original game. Neither is bringing out from scratch exclusives the only difference is Microsoft is not dicking over their existing customers to keep it "exclusive". The PS5 crew might have a point if Sony had these from scratch heavy hitters at launch. The first heavy hitter from scratch is looking like late 2021 or early with horizon. Probably the same time from Microsoft will have its first from scratch game heavy hitter hellblade 2.

Just covering the fact that their new studios have not finished ramping up and trying to see how many people buy the pro consumer/XSX exclusive games are bad and they are actually helping us angle...

They could just make dlc of current games or remakes of games and call that exclusives right? That is an awesome way to do it. Im sure that would make everyone happy? I'm sure that would not end with a long line of bitching and complaining.

 

[igivehugs2nakedwomen]

You realize PS and Xbox share 90% (even more, actually) of the same games, right? Because third-parties exist?

Or are 3rd-parties the "meh" games, here?



You're looking at this very narrow-minded if you think Sony's exclusives are the driving factor behind them selling 110 million PS4s, because the vast majority of the mainstream who purchase these systems play the same small handful of 3rd party tentpole franchise year after year. COD, FIFA, Madden, GTA, Destiny etc.

So take off those warrior goggles and think about this stuff rationally.

That said....Phil? What the hell are you doing here? These quotes come off as incredibly defensive when they don't have to be. You're just giving ammunition to fanboys addressing the relationship between Series X and Series S like this. Do better.

Look dude I'm not fighting for any corporation. None of them gives a damn about you personally. All they want is your money. Phil Spencer seems to think that downplaying the competition is the best way to sell his product, which is why myself and others are mocking him and laughing at him.

 

[THEAP99]

 

[jakinov]

He's trying to say Xbox is all about inclusion and exclusives are bad for gaming. Do you really believe that exclusives are bad for gaming?

110 million people obviously don't believe that bullshit.

Most of those 110 million probably bought PS4s to play GTA, Minecraft, Fornite, Fifa, NBA and COD. Exclusive games drive console sales through hype and its exclusivity. But a lot of people probably just buy the console that they friends have, the brand they already like and what is popular. Every exclusive game sale would have had to have been bought 1:1 to each console owner for every console purchase to have been motivated by an exclusive games (at least with the data available, since we don't have used game numbers) which is very unlikely the case as there's probably a lot of overlap.

Also, not arguing that exclusives are bad for gaming. I just don't think that exclusives are as big of a deal as it was during the PS2/Xbox days on console sales back before when major publishers decided to give most of their support to just one platform. Now you kind of expect that every major AAA game will be on everything back then it was really mixed.

 

[Lort]

In some sense this is like the film industry hating netflix ... because people watch movies on their phone ... there res can be lower and the colors less accurate ( actually i have an iphone x so thats not true)... but if i wanted to watch the movie with worse "graphics" i could.

1 years of MS games (not third parties) coming out at 900p 30 fps on xbox one and 4k 60fps with ray tracing on XSX...really isnt that bad.

... there are very few games that will be revolutionised by the zen cpu ... especially in the first year... every Sony and MS excluisve shown could easily run on last gen CPU.

 

[SlimySnake]

because most people are not stupid enough/don't act stupid on purpose and know that most games released during the first 12months or so are almost always originally designed and developed for the old generation and then ported up and polished up a bit to look next gen. usually that's done by slapping the newest trend in graphics tech onto it and using higher res assets.

do you really think Spider-Man Miles Morales could not run on PS4? if you do, maybe ask your doctor to give you some anti fanboyism pills. that game would absolutely be able to release on PS4 and was most likely first developed for it... but it wont... why? because Sony locks it to the PS5, that's the only reason.

or that really shitty looking 1512p Sackboy game... does that seem to be a game that's not possible on a PS4? it doesn't.

even Ratchet & Clank would absolutely be possible on a PS4, it would just be less impressive because these purple falling through the void loading screen would be 10 seconds long instead of 1 to 2 seconds. and the screen wouldn't be filled with quite as many particle effects.
this game can not release on PS4 because of Sony, not because a port would be impossible.

and these are the only games Sony makes that they showed so far that will, realistically speaking, release within the first year or so... it's not even really sure in Ratchet's case even.

Wait, its stupid to expect first party publishers to launch exclusives on their new consoles? Since when? This is uncharted territory. Every console maker thats ever released a console has shipped with exclusives in the first 12 months. Even half steps like Switch, wii and Wii U. Every xbox console shipped exclusives in the first 12 months.

And now all of a sudden it is not standard but stupid to expect next gen games from a first party publisher? What am I even reading here.

Also, you think next gen exclusives by first party sony studios renowned for their graphical prowess arent next gen enough, and yet you think cross gen games from MS will be good enough?

None of what you posted makes any sense whatsoever. it's entirely devoid of logical thought and reasoning.

 

[Stilton Disco]

If new hardware doesn't push the envelope and allow the creation of games that weren't possible before, then there's no point in new hardware.

 

[skneogaf]

I hope the playstation 5 exclusive games are something special that could not be done on a ps4 otherwise sony's decision is stupid.

I'm pretty sure the new spiderman, gt7 etc could have been made for the ps4 so it is coming across as anti consumer.

I'm sure there will be a limit of what the ps4 and xbox one can reproduce from the new games over the next few years but I'm very sure the majority will be able to be downgraded enough to play.

 

[Mister Wolf]

So The Medium will be able to be played on XB1 OG Spec?

No. Scorn and Medium are next gen exclusive. I expect the PC versions to have high system requirements to match console performance since the Series X is basically a RTX 2080.

 

[junguler]

he's right imo (judging by the snippets on the op), at this point i don't see myself buying another console ever again, if it doesn't come to steam or gog, i just shrug it and move on.

 

[DeepEnigma]

No. Scorn and Medium are next gen exclusive. I expect the PC versions to have high system requirements to match console since the Series X is basically a RTX 2080.

So next gen exclusives are a good thing then for us consumers, yes?

 

[Mister Wolf]

So next gen exclusives are a good thing then for us consumers, yes?

Scorn is a next gen only exclusive first person shooter. Do you really think it's going to look better than Halo Infinite that's not?

 

[igivehugs2nakedwomen]

Most of those 110 million probably bought PS4s to play GTA, Minecraft, Fornite, Fifa, NBA and COD. Exclusive games drive console sales through hype and its exclusivity. But a lot of people probably just buy the console that they friends have, the brand they already like and what is popular. Every exclusive game sale would have had to have been bought 1:1 to each console owner for every console purchase to have been motivated by an exclusive games (at least with the data available, since we don't have used game numbers) which is very unlikely the case as there's probably a lot of overlap.

Also, not arguing that exclusives are bad for gaming. I just don't think that exclusives are as big of a deal as it was during the PS2/Xbox days on console sales back before when major publishers decided to give most of their support to just one platform. Now you kind of expect that every major AAA game will be on everything back then it was really mixed.

If Phil Spencer doesn't believe that exclusives have any impact on gaming and hardware sales then why does he keep trying to downplay them? I've never seen anyone downplay something that's irrelevant, have you?

 

[Lethal01]

What a fascinating position.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

He's not downplaying them though, it's just that your version of exclusive is different to his. To some people exclusive means "only on Xbox", but to others it can mean "only on Xbox systems and pc".

The goal posts move, because is Horizon not a sony exclusive still? What about death stranding and god of war, which we all know is coming, and I can't wait because I'll double dip (awesome game, loved it) It can't be played on an Xbox but can be enjoyed on a pc. So surely it's an exclusive?

 

[CatLady]

It is not concern for the Xbox more reaction to the empty rhetoric bordering on doublespeak these interviews have. "We do not care what device you play on" is evident BS... "We do not care from which device you access Xcloud" also questionable (hint: not a Sony console for sure )... "Generations" are anti consumer... "Exclusives for the next generation are anti consumers" (except when they do it)... "(timed) exclusives are anti consumer" (while making Tomb Raider exclusive for one year)... etc... same person, but cannot ever be blamed as it is always someone else in MS's fault.

So you're saying you don't really care about this policy, it doesn't actually concern you, you're just here to complain and troll XsX and Phil because you don't like them.

Fair enough.

 

[SlimySnake]

People are upset at him because he's Phil Spencer, head of Xbox. That's why. There isn't anything else to it. You know that if Sony had said this, people would suddenly start taing about how progressive it was and how it's good that more people can play their exclusives, because they can't play them on pc...yet.

I am sorry but this completely ignores all the points I have brought up in this thread along with several other posters who havent taken pot shots at him. This is you handwaving any valid criticism of this approach by Phil, and why we simply cannot have a decent discussion on this matter.

He is saying contradictory things. he is saying things that simply do not make sense. he is saying things that are completely untrue. if you arent willing to discuss them, fine say you aren't interested, but lets not facetiously paint an entire thread as fanboy drivebys.

And i really dont see how Spiderman looks like a PS4 game. I mean i get that these games at the PS5 reveal looked underwhleming next to Hellblade 2, but they did not look like PS4 games, especially not Miles.

Cross gen games traditionally use the same exact character model and just up the resolution and sometimes up the framerate.

We know what characters look like in Halo Infinite.

I can promise you that this guy will look identical across both versions with slightly less detail in lower end xbox just Venom Snake in MGSV. It will not be as big of an upgrade as the Miles character model above.

 

[quest]

If Phil Spencer doesn't believe that exclusives have any impact on gaming and hardware sales then why does he keep trying to downplay them? I've never seen anyone downplay something that's irrelevant, have you?

He is not down playing them he is being realistic. With development time now days your not going to get a halo 1 or mario 64 now. That the games built from scratch are really 1-2 years after launch. You can either embrace this with big cross generation titles like halo. Or you can have "exclusive " dlc like spiderman. Miles. Sure spiderman is "exclusive" but it is no more next generation than halo. One just screws over old customers for the word "exclusive" not because of hardware like a mario 64 and halo 1.

 

[MCplayer]

as an xbox player, thats some bad news for me..

 

[jakinov]

If Phil Spencer doesn't believe that exclusives have any impact on gaming and hardware sales then why does he keep trying to downplay them? I've never seen anyone downplay something that's irrelevant, have you?

I don't think Phil Spencer said that. And that wasn't the point I was trying to make either. Exclusives play a role in console sales. But not 110 million of the PS4s sold.

 

[tryDEATH]

Why are you so glad about his propaganda? Do you have stakes in MS? What he says about generations is factually wrong, It might work on clueless casuals, but for anyone with a clue, his vision is boring, and not what generations should be about. Couldn't care less if his fake 'pro consumer' speak gets a few morons buying into MS, their loss.

There is nothing factually wrong what he says, he specifically mentioned PC's and how it works on that platform and how its going to work for the XSX. You don't see people on PC complain that not everyone having a Titan RTX or 2080TI GPU is keeping gaming back. The only people that believe that are living in imagination land, because they were sold a "revolution" in gaming that isn't happening.

Every generation so far has been the same way and both systems had similar specs with only differentiating power levels, yet somehow this generation we are supposed to step into the 22nd century of gaming

Please spare me the hyperbolic talking points.

 

[Jigsaah]

Times change, people change. I don't think it's that big of a deal honestly. I think Microsoft will find out soon enough that XSEX exclusivity was always the way to go. It will happen naturally.

 

[stitch1]

It will be interesting to look back on this thread in 5 years.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Scorn is a next gen only exclusive first person shooter. Do you really think it's going to look better than Halo Infinite that's not?

That's not what I asked. The narrative by some is that this is "pro consumer" for not having exclusives... I however pointed out there are a few exclusives, so are these games not "pro-consumer" ...?

I need to keep up with the double speak quota for the day.

 

[igivehugs2nakedwomen]

I don't think Phil Spencer said that. And that wasn't the point I was trying to make either. Exclusives play a role in console sales. But not 110 million of the PS4s sold.

As a player you are the centre of our strategy. Our device is not the centre of our strategy, our game is not the centre of the strategy. We want to enable you to play the games you want to play, with the friends you want to play with, on any device. […]

Gaming is about entertainment and community and diversion and learning new stories and new perspectives, and I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games. Or to force someone to buy my device on the day that I want them to go buy it, in order to partake in what gaming is about.

Do you downplay something that you believe to be irrelevant? I sure don't and clearly, Phil Spencer does.

 

[Leyasu]

Also goodluck running GT7 and ratchet and clack rift apart on PS4. Yea those dimension hopping are really gonna work

GT7 would be the easiest to get running on the PS4. And lets be honest here, if having teleporting in every game is going to be the defining feature of "next gen" design just to show off the SSD, then devs can fucking keep it. It will get stale and old real quick.

Yes, it is obvious that a HDD could not do what was shown, but how many games are going to need it?

Remove the bolted on warping, and tone down the effects, and RC could have been done on a PS4

 

[hyperbertha]

There is nothing factually wrong what he says, he specifically mentioned PC's and how it works on that platform and how its going to work for the XSX. You don't see people on PC complain that not everyone having a Titan RTX or 2080TI GPU is keeping gaming back. The only people that believe that are living in imagination land, because they were sold a "revolution" in gaming that isn't happening.

Every generation so far has been the same way and both systems had similar specs with only differentiating power levels, yet somehow this generation we are supposed to step into the 22nd century of gaming

Please spare me the hyperbolic talking points.

PC games have a minimum system requirements for a reason. Every console gens these system requirements jump up for guess what genius? Any 'scalability' on the PC is purely for visuals (texture quality, resolution etc) not for game defining features that separate generations. Some things on newer gens just cannot be done on older systems. That's elementary knowledge.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

SlimySnake the actual base game for Spiderman on ps5 is the ps4 Version. Same city, same geo. And you may need to go back and play spider man on PS4, it's character models are fantastic and it's a good looking game. The only thing that's good in that ps5 shot is the lighting and effects. The model could be done on PS4, easy.

As for your other point about me ignoring, no, not intentional. I'm just cherry picking a few things to bring up. Truth be told, this threads already gone the way I expected it to. But I think we have different opinions on Phils message so I can't see us seeing eye to eye anyway chief

 

[SirTerry-T]

If new hardware doesn't push the envelope and allow the creation of games that weren't possible before, then there's no point in new hardware.

That's true, but really when has that ever happened? For the most part we are still playing the same games we were, for all intents and purposes, back in the PS2/GC/Dreamcast era, just prettier and bigger.

 

[JTCx]

Well there it is folks. We've all been living a lie. We were so stupid to buy nintendo consoles to play their games. Big brain Phil showing us the light.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games.

Kinda like how you lock Xbox players out of online unless they give you $60 a year, but let PC players access it for free...this whole interview is just PR nonsense.

 

[Panajev2001a]

So you're saying you don't really care about this policy, it doesn't actually concern you, you're just here to complain and troll XsX and Phil because you don't like them.

Fair enough.

Wonderful, so if someone cares about his policy you have a way to weasel out of it by calling it platform bias, if someone calls BS on it you can weasel your way out of it by calling it concern trolling and not liking XSX and Phil... let's keep it generic so it is easier eh shall we ?

 

[SirTerry-T]

Why are you so glad about his propaganda? Do you have stakes in MS? What he says about generations is factually wrong, It might work on clueless casuals, but for anyone with a clue, his vision is boring, and not what generations should be about. Couldn't care less if his fake 'pro consumer' speak gets a few morons buying into MS, their loss.

Those clueless casuals, are what keep this industry going. Without them there would be no extraspecial, no plebs allowed, games to be played in the "extra special games connoisseur club".

 

[vkbest]

Nah dude, we're good enjoying exclusives.

well, but real exclusives because hardware, no exclusives to force you to buy the console. And I think PS5 have forced exclusives too. GT7 and Spider-Man Miles Morales looks like could running on PS4

 

[IntentionalPun]

I think the only reason this might work is the very likely impending global recession.

Even then it might not work.

I fear that 3-5 years from now if their strategy hasn't paid off they'll lose the respect of their CEO/board members/etc. and the whole thing could get canned.

And I suspect a huge portion of the reason why they have their boards/CEO's approval right now is this idiotic idea that game streaming is going to take off and "1 BILLLLION people" will be on their platform. Not happening IMO.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So you're saying you don't really care about this policy, it doesn't actually concern you, you're just here to complain and troll XsX and Phil because you don't like them.

Fair enough.

But Scorn, The Medium, Hellblade 2 (seemingly) and several others are next gen exclusive... so what's this "policy" then?

 

[tryDEATH]

PC games have a minimum system requirements for a reason. Every console gens these system requirements jump up for guess what genius? Any 'scalability' on the PC is purely for visuals (texture quality, resolution etc) not for game defining features that separate generations. Some things on newer gens just cannot be done on older systems. That's elementary knowledge.

Can you point me to the "game defining features" between the PS3's the Last of Us and PS4's The Last of Us 2? Let me give you a hint there was none, it was literally the "scalability of visuals (texture quality, resolution etc)" there was nothing revolutionary about that game from generation to generation, just the amount of pixels being pushed by more powerful hardware, which is exactly what cross generation is going to be on the Xbox.

 

[SNG32]

If Xbox one sold 100 million consoles he wouldn't be talking this shit.