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Part of me wants to just cancel my preorder and buy it used in March......... but I also really want to play this damn game.
Yakuza: Like a Dragon PS4 to PS5 Upgrade MAY be Only for Digital Purchases (Update: includes physical)
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TheKingOfPain
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59.99 iirc
Unless they build in some kind of save data import tool (and I hope CDPR is doing so), yeah, games with post-launch upgrades are going to require a fresh new game to enjoy the new features.
JunkerWoland
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Good on SEGA for fairly quickly clarifying matters.
The lack of transferable saves does mean I won't be making a decision on the game, until I have clearer picture on my own next-gen purchases.
The lack of transferable saves does mean I won't be making a decision on the game, until I have clearer picture on my own next-gen purchases.
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Ozrimandias
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What the fuck. Damn you Jim Ryan
MoreJRPG
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I'm buying a PS5 to play PS5 games at their best possible performance. Why would I bother with a PS4 anymore? I'll be too busy with Demon's Souls and Spider-Man and Assassin's Creed to even worry about titles like this until they actually release.
This is a non-issue.
This is a non-issue.
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kingwingin
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But I was told paid upgrades were a good thing
bender
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Probably something to do with file structures and where PS5 games look for save data. Still seems like something that should be easily overcome.
ANIMAL1975
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Fuck you Konami!
Doncabesa
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It's similar for Maneater's upgrade, Xbox One saves transfer but PS4 saves do not.
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Maneater Evolves with Next-Gen Enhancements! FAQ
Ray-tracing, 4k @ 60FPS, and more on Xbox Series X, Series S, and PS5! Fully evolved for the next generation of console systems, Maneater will support Ray-Tracing, native 4K HDR at 60 FPS, and new lighting effects that will bring the underwater world of Maneater to life like only the next...
bender
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It's similar for Maneater's upgrade, Xbox One saves transfer but PS4 saves do not.
Maneater Evolves with Next-Gen Enhancements! FAQ
Ray-tracing, 4k @ 60FPS, and more on Xbox Series X, Series S, and PS5! Fully evolved for the next generation of console systems, Maneater will support Ray-Tracing, native 4K HDR at 60 FPS, and new lighting effects that will bring the underwater world of Maneater to life like only the next...
Well, I'm sure you an play the PS4 versions of the games on PS5 and still have access to your PS4 save files. I guess Trophies/Achievements would be another hurdle if last generation/current generation were separate applications.
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iamvin22
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They are 2 different skus and product codes. That's how it worked when I was at EA
a multicultural team of v
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This isn't a Sony thing, you could transfer saves between plenty of PS3, PS4, and Vita games, and they aren't even remotely the same consoles. This is just a developer not giving a shit I guess.
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Xion4360
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the fact save data wont work is the story here...it sucks but I also dont care.
Skifi28
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Yes and no. I generally agree, but it can be an issue on RPGs where you can clock dozens of hours. Imagine if it happened on monster hunter where I have 1000 hours. It's concerning.
This is a turn based RPG.
Keihart
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You sure? in the case of MM it was specifically stated that there was a code included in the PS4 version to use as a free upgrade IIRC.
Xion4360
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dont get me wrong, I only dont care because im not buying this game on ps...Im playing it on xbox....It really does suck and seems to be an issue outside of just the game developer not doing it because there's also spider man not doing it.
Abriael_GN
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You're being quite juvenile. The original announcement, including both the official Twitter and the press release, talked only about digital.
Drunkensamurai
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Spider-man MM confirmed to have cross-save between Ps4 > Ps5. At this point, I think its a Sega issue.
lastmessiah
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Notice how they don't say anything about it being a free upgrade like the digital version.
KingT731
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May potentially have something to do with publishing agreements.It's similar for Maneater's upgrade, Xbox One saves transfer but PS4 saves do not.
Maneater Evolves with Next-Gen Enhancements! FAQ
Ray-tracing, 4k @ 60FPS, and more on Xbox Series X, Series S, and PS5! Fully evolved for the next generation of console systems, Maneater will support Ray-Tracing, native 4K HDR at 60 FPS, and new lighting effects that will bring the underwater world of Maneater to life like only the next...
Agent X
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I believe they should be able to overcome it...if they want to put in the effort. See below.
That's true. There are lots of games (big and small) that supported cross-save between PS3, PS4, and PS Vita. Sony promoted this feature pretty heavily at a time when their two chief competitors turned a blind eye to it.
Cross-save is accomplished by saving data to the cloud. I'm not talking about PS Plus cloud saves (like you would use to back up saved data for personal use), but cloud saves within the games themselves, maintained by the game's publisher. Some games required the user to manually sync the saves, while others accomplish this automatically without any user intervention--it was all up to the developer's implementation.
If little games like Sound Shapes, CounterSpy, Shovel Knight, Another World, Velocity 2X, and several NeoGeo emulations could pull off cross-save cleanly without a hitch, then there's no excuse for a major commercial release to restrict it.
Heck, I remember that Grand Theft Auto IV for PS4 went as far as allowing you to import save data from the Xbox 360 version of the game.
If Sega needs help implementing this, then perhaps they should seek assistance from Sony and/or any of the developers of the games mentioned above.
bender
What time is it?
I'm curious how those PS3/Vita/PS4 cross saved games handled Trophies?
I guess the other question is if this a limitation of PS5 or the development team not wanting to implement the feature. Crummy news either way.
LordCBH
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Pretty sure all the cross save games had shared trophy lists, so it's one list across all the SKU's that can load that save, meaning it doesn't matter which of the 3 systems load thst save. Could be wrong though.
StreetsofBeige
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Saves don't carry over? It's not like someone is going from a PS4 version to a PS5 remaster or remake.
it's the same game.
it would be like saves not working from xbox/PS4 OG to One X/Pro
it's the same game.
it would be like saves not working from xbox/PS4 OG to One X/Pro
Agent X
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The cross-save games generally handled trophies in one of two ways:
- They shared a single common trophy list between the supported systems.
- They maintained separate trophy lists for each system, and syncing the saves would also instantly grant whatever trophies you earned from the other system(s). For example, I was able to earn a double platinum for Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time (PS3 & Vita), and a triple platinum for Sound Shapes (PS3, PS4, & Vita).
Almost certain that this falls on the developer's shoulders, since numerous games pulled it off on PS3, PS4, and Vita despite the disparate hardware. Some games also support cross-save with PC, and in a few cases (such as the GTA4 example I mentioned earlier) even with competing consoles.
Investor9872
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Are you daft?