PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X: Teardown Comparison

I like em both - like the minimalism of the Xbox. Like the sleekness of the ps5 - plus the liquid metal. I know nothing about hardware but liquid metal is awesome.
 
MrFunSocks said:
There's a major difference you're missing. The tear downs were done at MS, but they sent consoles to people for previews. Sony did previews in a tightly controlled office at their headquarters. They didn't send consoles to anyone. They also did their tear down with a Sony employee. MS let other people do their own tear downs.

Both completely different situations, don't try and "Microsoft too" it.



I hope not. External power bricks are better in every way. Less heat in the console, and easier repair/replacement. It's like internal batteries, having them just makes it less user friendly.
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Well aren't you Mr fun socks?!

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I said they're both done in facilities provided by the producers of the consoles. The sony play test YouTube videos from Japan also had a third party in the facility conducting the test.

It's not the same, no. But I'm comfortable pointing out these differences
 
Tschumi said:
Well aren't you Mr fun socks?!

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I said they're both done in facilities provided by the producers of the consoles. The sony play test YouTube videos from Japan also had a third party in the facility conducting the test.

It's not the same, no. But I'm comfortable pointing out these differences
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But what I'm saying is that sony tightly controlled both things - no one outside of sony has even got to hold a PS5 yet. Dozens of reviewers have literally held and played XSX's in their own offices/homes. Multiple people got to go to MS and do the tear down themselves. The Sony teardown was a Sony employee. The playtests were all at sony and no-one was allowed to touch the console or even take photos of the back of it.
 
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Yeah as Sony use all that replaceable plastic in the colour most people don't want. I wouldn't be surprised to see a David Attenborough video of the ocean full of White Ps5 covers.
 
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But what I'm saying is that sony tightly controlled both things - no one outside of sony has even got to hold a PS5 yet. Dozens of reviewers have literally held and played XSX's in their own offices/homes. Multiple people got to go to MS and do the tear down themselves. The Sony teardown was a Sony employee. The playtests were all at sony and no-one was allowed to touch the console or even take photos of the back of it.
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I'm really not trying to start a rabbit hole of replies but were those two YouTube personalities Sony employees?
 
Dr Bass said:
The Xbox internal design is so bad compared to what Sony did with the PS5. The Xbox parts are just mashed together with a fan on top with so many of the holes blocked. If you put the Xbox sideways the big round stand just sits there looking ridiculous, not to mention blocking nearly all air intake. The PS5 has a freakin' compartment for the attachment screw and they even give you a small bit to fill the screw hole when you lay it sideways. So much attention to detail. It's just a completely different approach to system design, and sadly the Xbox XSX continues Microsoft's "legendary" design chops. I don't get how Microsoft can still churn out the kinds of products it does in every area when they have decades of seeing superior competition. They don't even seem to get why they turn out inferior products. It's maddening.
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But it got 2 motherboards man!
 
I'd love to see official BOM off both consoles. It looks like ps5 is using up a huge chunk of metal and plastic, while drawing more power, and being less powerful. Now that both consoles have had teardowns, it would be interesting to see how they would handle midgen refreshes, if they even go that route.
 
Tickrate said:
Maybe to people who don't know any better or just console army boys fighting their little war. But having warm air coming out of the exhaust without the fan ramping up or the system shutting down means it's operating within it's designed thermal limits.
Until proven otherwise YouTubers can clickbait you as much as they want :)
Others know better and don't take comments out of context.
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No no, nobody is complaining that hot air is coming OUT of the system, the concern seems to be that the system itself is getting too hot. ie, not pushing enough hot air out of the system.

You had the same misunderstanding in another thread.
 
NinjaBoiX said:
No no, nobody is complaining that hot air is coming OUT of the system, the concern seems to be that the system itself is getting too hot. ie, not pushing enough hot air out of the system.

You had the same misunderstanding in another thread.
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If either of these consoles were getting too hot, they would shut down due to excessive thermals. This hasn't happened for the 100's of XSX's, and there haven't been any hands on testing of the ps5 outside of the limited amounts Sony has shown.


Furthermore, those rumors are debunked. Why not just wait for real life testing from ps5, to see what differences they may have?
 
if the console itself is hot that's not a good indicator of anything, the thermals on the chips is what actually matter, if the top/exhaust of the console is hot then that's great it means its being pushed out of the console.

both consoles are likely going to be drawing relatively the same amount of watts, those watts turn into heat unless someone figures out how to put a interdimensional wormhole to expel the heat to, both consoles are going to thus generate about the same amount of heat and get hot. However I do expect a lot of idiots to judge the PS5 thermals by placing their hands on what are essentially the white floating panels on the side then stupidly declare "thE pS5 ruNs coOLeR".
 
The PS5 internals are the most impressive I've seen in a console. Everything looks engineered to the highest level to solve certain design problems.

Liquid metal, rail-gun heatsink, vibration dampeners, double sided fan, dust catchers....the teardown made the old fella downstairs twitch...

Series X in comparison kinda looks like a small form factor PC, very standard looking. MS have saved money on the unit itself, even the plastic box looks kinda cheap.
 
The Xbox teardown clearly wasn't of a functional console, it was a tidied up version for show. The parts don't just slide in like that with no physical connections in a real one. So I don't think it's fully comparable.

That said, I do think the stacked tower design of the Xbox is neat. But Sony seems to have put more effort into an advanced cooling system. Maybe because they had to.
 
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The PS5 internals are the most impressive I've seen in a console. Everything looks engineered to the highest level to solve certain design problems.

Liquid metal, rail-gun heatsink, vibration dampeners, double sided fan, dust catchers....the teardown made the old fella downstairs twitch...

Series X in comparison kinda looks like a small form factor PC, very standard looking. MS have saved money on the unit itself, even the plastic box looks kinda cheap.
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Because it's much more impressive to stop something in a big tower than into a small rectangular box?
 
Dr Bass said:
The Xbox internal design is so bad compared to what Sony did with the PS5. The Xbox parts are just mashed together with a fan on top with so many of the holes blocked. If you put the Xbox sideways the big round stand just sits there looking ridiculous, not to mention blocking nearly all air intake. The PS5 has a freakin' compartment for the attachment screw and they even give you a small bit to fill the screw hole when you lay it sideways. So much attention to detail. It's just a completely different approach to system design, and sadly the Xbox XSX continues Microsoft's "legendary" design chops. I don't get how Microsoft can still churn out the kinds of products it does in every area when they have decades of seeing superior competition. They don't even seem to get why they turn out inferior products. It's maddening.
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Yeah, just make it big.

Great design choice. LOL
 
Dr Bass said:
The Xbox internal design is so bad compared to what Sony did with the PS5. The Xbox parts are just mashed together with a fan on top with so many of the holes blocked. If you put the Xbox sideways the big round stand just sits there looking ridiculous, not to mention blocking nearly all air intake. The PS5 has a freakin' compartment for the attachment screw and they even give you a small bit to fill the screw hole when you lay it sideways. So much attention to detail. It's just a completely different approach to system design, and sadly the Xbox XSX continues Microsoft's "legendary" design chops. I don't get how Microsoft can still churn out the kinds of products it does in every area when they have decades of seeing superior competition. They don't even seem to get why they turn out inferior products. It's maddening.
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Surface team is making Xbox seriesX. Its simple and effective. PS5 is over engineered and less powerful like original Xbox one.


Series X cooling method is very good coz hot air normally goes upwards, even on my pc cabinet majority of heat comes out through big top fan compared to side fans.

Series Xs are tested in special MicroOvens to test how much heat it can handle. As long as you not dumb consumer who will shove these consoles in closed off cabinets next to dvd player then you have no reason to worry about heating problem. Just keep these consoles in open well ventilated place and both machines will serve you good.
 
Zoro7 said:
How can anyone seriously say the Xbox is better engineering? The PS5 has a crazy heatsink and liquid metal cooling. Lol Please.
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Series X was made by Surface team who designed One X. Simple and effective design. PS5 overly large and. engineered. Both look good physically.


PS4 internals were also better looking and more compact than Xbox one but PS4 ended up getting louder and hotter than Xbox one.

So you can't judge which is better and which will last long till you yourself start using it
 
There is nothing new about split mb design. It has been done already (to some degree). What ms did was put the heatsink on the other side of the rest of the components. This is effective for cooling as it give the apu its own compartment. Simple and effective.

Ps5 stayed somewhat tbe same, with just a different cooling solution to what was done before. Bigger heatsink. Simple and effective.

People throwing around brilliant design or over engineering are mistaking shffuling of parts and enlarging cooling solution. These are gaming consoles. They are meant to play games. The only thing brilliant about both is the price.
 
Zoro7 said:
How can anyone seriously say the Xbox is better engineering? The PS5 has a crazy heatsink and liquid metal cooling. Lol Please.
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What's crazy about the PlayStation heat sink? The Xbox has a vapour chamber lol. The Xbox is better engineering because it's more powerful and it's in a significantly smaller console, and the airflow and design seem smarter. Air goes in one end, through the entire console, and out the other.
 
FrankWza said:
Because the internals dictate what you can make the console look like on the outside. After the tear down you can see Sony could have made the plates smaller but integrated that into the cooling solution. They gave it an "open" design. There's also a large heat sink in there. They listened to their fans and focused on cooling and fan noise. The Xbox didn't. If it stays just as cool and quiet as Sony's then they pulled off a better design and engineering job. If not, it will be criticized for cramming parts in to a small space. Either way, we won't know until they are both in real world conditions( actual gamers living rooms)
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And at the end of the day, 99.999% of users of both systems will turn them on and play games on quiet machines.

And what do you mean by 'Xbox didnt'? Xbox didn't need to listen to fans complaints on cooling and fan noise, because they've had whisper quiet consoles for 7 years!
 
Pull out the tools any time you want to switch from horizontal to vertical and vice versa. So elegant. So much thought put into it, like wow.
 
MrFunSocks said:
What's crazy about the PlayStation heat sink? The Xbox has a vapour chamber lol. The Xbox is better engineering because it's more powerful and it's in a significantly smaller console, and the airflow and design seem smarter. Air goes in one end, through the entire console, and out the other.
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Making compact devices isn't a new thing. It all comes down to how much noice these consoles make. Theres already murmurs of the series X giving out a lot of heat whilst playing BC games. Add in next gen games and that could mean the fan noise will be more audible.
 
DonJuanSchlong said:
If either of these consoles were getting too hot, they would shut down due to excessive thermals. This hasn't happened for the 100's of XSX's, and there haven't been any hands on testing of the ps5 outside of the limited amounts Sony has shown.


Furthermore, those rumors are debunked. Why not just wait for real life testing from ps5, to see what differences they may have?
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Oh absolutely, I'm in no mad rush to go out and buy either console. I'll be waiting at least 6 months to see how things pan out, reliability wise.
 
The more I think about this, the more you appreciate the simplicity of the Xbox design.

The hoops you have to jump through to place the PS5 horizontally, or expand SSD storage. Mental, over-complex, and just poor overall design despite what you may think.

Xbox not getting off completely either. The stand remaining when put horizontal is quite ugly.
 
Dr Bass said:
The Xbox internal design is so bad compared to what Sony did with the PS5. The Xbox parts are just mashed together with a fan on top with so many of the holes blocked. If you put the Xbox sideways the big round stand just sits there looking ridiculous, not to mention blocking nearly all air intake. The PS5 has a freakin' compartment for the attachment screw and they even give you a small bit to fill the screw hole when you lay it sideways. So much attention to detail. It's just a completely different approach to system design, and sadly the Xbox XSX continues Microsoft's "legendary" design chops. I don't get how Microsoft can still churn out the kinds of products it does in every area when they have decades of seeing superior competition. They don't even seem to get why they turn out inferior products. It's maddening.
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That's because Microsoft's experience isn't from hardware design and engineering. Microsoft has always been the software giants. That being said they knocked the design of xbox one x out of the park. It runs super quiet. I think both PS5 and Series X have great designs(external and internal). Now we need to see multiplatform games running on both consoles to find out which one is able to perform efficiently. On paper Series X looks a bit more powerful due to the tflop count, but on the other hand PS5 on paper looks like a console that allows developers to quickly access the performance from the console with great overall efficiency. Wasn't there an argument that an Radeon xyz card that has 7 tflops is more efficient than the radeon xyz card that's 10 tflops? By end of the month we should be seeing next gen games running on Series X!
 
Zoro7 said:
Making compact devices isn't a new thing. It all comes down to how much noice these consoles make. Theres already murmurs of the series X giving out a lot of heat whilst playing BC games. Add in next gen games and that could mean the fan noise will be more audible.
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Giving off heat is GOOD. It means Less heat inside, it means it's doing its job lol. Also BC games on Series x get the full power of the console, all 12TF, so of course it'll run hot. It won't be any hotter running next gen games. It might actually run cooler because it actually will take advantage of the new architecture instead of brute forcing it.

Literally every hands on report says it's at least as quiet as the one X, so essentially silent.

There's nothing here to be concerned about.


BigLee74 said:
The more I think about this, the more you appreciate the simplicity of the Xbox design.

The hoops you have to jump through to place the PS5 horizontally, or expand SSD storage. Mental, over-complex, and just poor overall design despite what you may think.

Xbox not getting off completely either. The stand remaining when put horizontal is quite ugly.
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It's not just a stand on the Series X, it's part of the cooling design. Is not like the PlayStation where it literally has a stand to help it stand.


Tulipanzo said:
Yeah, can definitely see why the Series X gets so hot, that's a bit too packed for good airflow.
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Yeh I'm sure Microsoft made the console to have bad airflow lol. Jesus Christ.
 
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NinjaBoiX said:
No no, nobody is complaining that hot air is coming OUT of the system, the concern seems to be that the system itself is getting too hot. ie, not pushing enough hot air out of the system.

You had the same misunderstanding in another thread.
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Define too hot? You're contradicting yourself in your own post. The same clickbait videos say the system is "near silent" yet the system is hot to the touch. Which on itself is something that has been taken out of context by one of the youtubers with a xsx talking about the ssd expansion card.

But fine, let's rhetorically say that it IS running that hot. If performance and normal operation of the system can be maintained, then clearly it's running within it's designed thermal limits. Have you ever held a Macbook on your lap?

Your inability to do this thought exercise is why such rumors spread like wildfire.
 
Tickrate said:
Define too hot? You're contradicting yourself in your own post. The same clickbait videos say the system is "near silent" yet the system is hot to the touch. Which on itself is something that has been taken out of context by one of the youtubers with a xsx talking about the ssd expansion card.

But fine, let's rhetorically say that it IS running that hot. If performance and normal operation of the system can be maintained, then clearly it's running within it's designed thermal limits. Have you ever held a Macbook on your lap?

Your inability to do this thought exercise is why such rumors spread like wildfire.
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each time I hold my MacBook Pro on my lap I am getting worried that my eggs will boil hard ;) initially I thought that I have got a faulty unit but then realised that it is simply apple design genius that made it warm my legs while working and improve circulation /s

in all seriousness, xbsex split motherboard design + vapour chamber that resulted in "small" form factor compared to power output is extremely impressive, on the other hand it seems that Sony brute forced their cooling with probably the biggest heat sink that we have ever seen in console, the liquid metal is cool, but it is nothing new for someone who done some searious overclocking on pc
 
BigLee74 said:
And at the end of the day, 99.999% of users of both systems will turn them on and play games on quiet machines.

And what do you mean by 'Xbox didnt'? Xbox didn't need to listen to fans complaints on cooling and fan noise, because they've had whisper quiet consoles for 7 years!
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We'll see how quiet everything is.They "didn't" focus on the cooling, you referred to the size and I explained the system is built inside out on Sony's part. I quoted the post I replied to to help you remember below. The way it looks isnt the only important factor. And the xb1 got plenty loud when the fans kicked in. But they HAD to focus on cooling last gen to make up for the gen before because of the high failure rate of 360. Thats why the xb1 was bigger than ps4.(2013)

BigLee74 said:
I'm having a good laugh at folk claiming the inside of their machine is superior to the other.

Who gives a shit? Who ever opens up their console?

The only important factor here is how the outside looks, and nothing can currently hide the ugly of the PS5. Maybe somebody can create some custom clip on panels to make it look like the XSX?
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The XSX is a much more impressive design in my opinion, I'm not sure what to make of the PS5, one minute I think is it a nice design then the next a bit of a monstrosity? I can't decide!! :messenger_grinning:
 
MrFunSocks said:
who? The tear down was a Sony employee.
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Oh i was referring to the playtesting when i started this, like i said it's not the same thing, I'm just saying they were both done by third parties on company ground~ in that regard they were similar, but treated differently~
 
as a air conditioner of art, I don't really get how some apparently get a hard one because of a console design. Like sure, the consoles look cool, but for a entertainment product that literially stands in the background 99,9% of the time, I take efficiency over aesthetics any day of the week.
 
mejin said:
370k views and 16k likes in 6 months X 4.4M and 307k likes in 20h....damn
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Well of course, Xbox is mostly just USA and the UK. They lost a lot of market share even in those countries at the start of last gen. Plus the one channel is from Playstation and the other is Digital Foundry.
 
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NullZ3r0 said:
Damn, I just can't get over how massive the PS5 is. It's basically a PC.
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That's not the only thing that reminds me of a PC. You need to get your tools out to change orientation and to add more storage. Did they forget they were building a console? There are many reasons console gamers go for consoles and not having to do that is one of them.
 
Tschumi said:
Oh i was referring to the playtesting when i started this, like i said it's not the same thing, I'm just saying they were both done by third parties on company ground~ in that regard they were similar, but treated differently~
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that's not true though. People have Xbox consoles at their homes to preview. They aren't being play tested at MS.
 
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