PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
- Thread starter LivingD3AD
- Start date
Hudo
Member
Well, to die is a common (but not inevitable) thing that happens when someone gets shot.From Die shots?
alabtrosMyster
Member
It costs only a couple of dollars on Udemy and you're all set!
Design a CPU: Learn Computer Architecture by Building Your Own
Computer Architecture and Design
Red_Driver85
Member
Hudo
Member
So that's Mark Cerny's secret sauce™It costs only a couple of dollars on Udemy and you're all set!
Design a CPU: Learn Computer Architecture by Building Your Own
Computer Architecture and Designwww.udemy.com
He is the course tutor.
Loxus
Member
Isn't RDNA 2 based off RNDA 1?
Which is why it's called RDNA 2
Only difference, is it has Ray Tracing and Infinity Cache.
No wonder you got banned.
And if that's the case, why doesn't XBSX has Infinity Cache?
Which is a RDNA 2 feature.
I think Cerny is right when he said the PS5 is based on RDNA 2.
You only need to keep what would benefit your console.
Last edited:
SoloKingRobert
Banned
Are you going to belive this rumour? Seems fake
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
Another day... I still can't believe that AMD Flute is the Gnome of video game SoC.
nowhat
Member
Missing those FPU features, huh?
MasterCornholio
Member
Are quotes acting up here?
Seems like your saying that the die shot looks fake.
I just realized this is a new video. I remember the one he did for PS5.
This one is interesting....
Agree, he's one of those highly informed posters that I sit back and try to take in what they're saying.
You mean whatever fits your narrative, if you want to try and defend someone who spreads rumours, and then shouts it on twitter like he believes it, then that's on you.
splattered
Member
Haha oh geez chill out
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
Funny thing is, I got banned on that thread... for arguing with those morons.
I think the mods were on the side of their bullshit and got bothered but all the technical information that I was posting there that they couldn't argue against, they decided to eject me from there instead of trying to prove me wrong.
By the way, MODS! Why I'm still blocked from the speculation thread? Time isn't proving who was right in that discussion?
onesvenus
Member
How does that image relate to PS5?
So going by this the PS5 has its own version of VRS via the GE. As the PS5 is supposedly the older RB.
I'd be very surprised if there isn't VRS in the PS5, especially when you have to consider VR.
Garani
Member
No, you are wrong. PS5 is based on RDNA2, that's not under debate. What we are trying to understand is what makes a PS5 perform like an XSX.
MasterCornholio
Member
At this point it seems like it's running on magic. Loads of theories but no benchmarks to prove them.
Fess
Member
Can't it simply be because of the extra 0.4GHz?
TheTechnician
Banned
i guess he will make another PS5 Video now that we have the silicon photo..
Lysandros
Member
I think PS5 performs just like PS5.
MasterCornholio
Member
That doesn't make up for all the other deficiencies though. I'm not saying it doesn't help but just that alone wouldn't make it on par with the other system. At least they what digital foundry said with their variable clocks video.
Last edited:
Upon checking on your behalf, you were actually ejected for derailing and low effort antagonism multiple times including a deleted post. Basically, shitting up the thread and preventing actual discussion.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Don't like it to buy it, it's that simple. But at the same time don't be mad a company that it's successful with that they're doing. Also bare in mind that GP=/=xCloud, where sure, the data caps in US is a real barrier for that market, and the lacking communication infrastructure also won't...
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Don't like it to buy it, it's that simple. But at the same time don't be mad a company that it's successful with that they're doing. Also bare in mind that GP=/=xCloud, where sure, the data caps in US is a real barrier for that market, and the lacking communication infrastructure also won't...
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Don't like it to buy it, it's that simple. But at the same time don't be mad a company that it's successful with that they're doing. Also bare in mind that GP=/=xCloud, where sure, the data caps in US is a real barrier for that market, and the lacking communication infrastructure also won't...
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Yep, I didn't buy it one bit, and now it's clearly been put to rest. I said from the get go I needed to see actually released games to believe it, and I've gotten that in convincing fashion. At least in my case once I see evidence disputing a belief I have, I accept it and move on. Do you all still believe PS5's CPU has a unified L3 cache and that the PS5 has infinity cache? There was never any basis for any of that, but here we are.
SmurfMustard
Member
You can really tell something is up when the hardcore Sony posters attack and insult each other. How dare some of you question this. You are supposed to be one unified front against the super secret xbox discord. Lil' BoPeep is probably really disappointed and you're getting cut from the next round of gold.
Some of you guys acting like suddenly everybody is a chip architect on GAF.
Some of you guys acting like suddenly everybody is a chip architect on GAF.
no one is expecting that ps5 perfom like the xsx and ppl not debating this.
And I'm saving this post in case xsx (like eveyone is expecting) when engine will change and utilize rdna2 feature you will say " but but but we know this "
Last edited:
Lysandros
Member
This has a very slight almost invisible side effect of making every single component of PS5's GPU around 20% faster/stronger than XSX's counterpart, this can't possibly have an effect on performance, how dare you?
Last edited:
it's cerny magic
John Wick
Member
Did you see how excited longdi got when he thought he had something to beat down the PS5 with??? He was in a such a rush to gloat he completely forgot to read the context of the thread. Then the rest of the warriors arrived. The worst ones are the ones that pretend they are neutral or think they are smart thinking they are fooling anyone.
Last edited:
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Fudge this thread is spicy.
Jimmyisback
Banned
Why doesn't Sony just release the die shot diagrams themselves just like MS? What is the point of keeping it all secret?
John Wick
Member
I don't think the average buyer would be interested in this? Outside of gaming forums like this nobody cares.
Physiognomonics
Member
The right question should actually be: why the XSX is not performing like a 12tf RDNA GPU? Because the PS5 does seem to perform like a 10tf GPU.
LordOfChaos
Member
Last edited:
MasterCornholio
Member
Bottle necks?
Then there are those saying that cross gen games don't use the extra TFs. But Control proves that it isn't the case.
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
It's calling losing patience.
Having to repeat things usually does that.
Yes, I tried to prevent discussion... about lies. Or are you saying that people are still allowed to repeat those lies there? Like "PS5 actually uses RDNA1", "only 9TF", "the CPU downclocks to 1.2GHz"?
That's what I wasn't allowing people to "discuss" there.
Lysandros
Member
To be clear i am not accusing anyone of anything, this is a speculation thread essentially, of course that people will speculate as they wish both ways as long as it's in a respectful and nonantagonistic manner. I was just a little perplexed about the speed of eagerness based on someone's first impression about the matter, that's all.
FranXico
Member
No.
FatKingBallman
Banned
There is a difference. Hardware RT was confirmed by system architect directly during presentation.
You called it crap for no good reason.
Unified L3 cache was just a rumor and speculation. There is a reason to call it crap since 1st rumor appeared. And that's OK
Last edited:
FatKingBallman
Banned
Maybe because fixed clocks.
Maybe because tools. Maybe because crappy XSS. Maybe because devs hate DX Or maybe somewhere is a bottleneck in XSX
Last edited:
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The unified cache stuff was always odd considering Sony's own diagram showing cache scrubbers showed a cache only attached to the GPU, not the CPU.
The Cerny talk was pretty damn detailed.. why everyone thinks they had major features not shown is beyond me lol
Last edited:
Lysandros
Member
Fixation on teraflops. That's an incurable disease apparently. Even the passing time and accumulation of knowledge doesn't seem to help it.
Elder Legend
Banned
I give you A for effort but an F for execution as I am simply making fun of the childish Sony bots. The joke is on you because I own both systems and adore both for different reasons. Try a lil harder next time little friend. GG.
Spitfire098
Member
This thread is interesting, but so many opposing ideas. I just want to thank all the very knowledgeable computer engineers, who have taken time off from their 6-digits FAANG job to explain this situation. 
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I've said from the beginning, and I continue to believe, it isn't the PS5 performing like Xbox Series X because I really don't believe they are in the exact same league from a performance standpoint. When things appear off (such as Series X having more trouble maintaining FPS at the same resolution and visual settings, or possibly worse and actually runs at a lower res) it's because Series X is just flat out underperforming its expected output, and that's before any more advanced capabilities are factored in.
Microsoft took longer to finalize their hardware design, plus they have a more unique memory setup compared to the PS5 which requires some special considerations when organizing data copies/accesses. Anything GPU critical must be inside the 10GB of GPU Optimal memory or else performance will be effected. Some devs will handle this better than others, but if they start to more directly take advantage of the available featureset of the Series X GPU, such as Sampler Feedback Streaming, I believe we will start to see a very different more consistent performance picture emerge.
Keep in mind I'm not calling the PS5 weak, it isn't weak, I just confidently believe Series X is in a performance tier above PS5.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Yep, but that's all old news now. I've long since accepted PS5 has capable RT hardware, and my twitter proves that. I was reading between the lines of how wishy, washy they appeared on RT compared to Xbox on RT and, I admit, I read far more into it than there truly was. I was way wrong. I don't have a problem admitting any of that.
If I'm to take a few licks here and there for disputing publicly confirmed information direct from the source, then others should have their fair share for believing entirely made up, speculative and outright false information that has never come directly from the source. I'm not willing to automatically dismiss that the PS5 may possess some tweaks or elements of a future RDNA architecture revision, I just challenge the so called youtube insiders that confidently state the PS5 has this or that, and everybody up and believes them. I also firmly believe there are things we aren't fully aware of regarding Series X, but my belief on that front continues to be that Microsoft has been an open book, and if there were another megaton feature hidden inside, we would potentially know about it already. I apply that same rule to Sony and PS5.
Md Ray
Member
FUD machine.
