Report: PS3, Vita, And PSP Stores To Be Permanently Closed In A Few Months
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Limited subset, but sure... this IS the digital future, it has many benefits for platform holders and publishers... for gamers... convenience of not having discs I guess
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The entire library?
You can also buy some PS2 games on the PS4 that also didn't even have an online store as well.
It's how it is on the PSP.
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Fake
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Stuart360
Member
You will still be able to download the content you already own, thats how it works on PC stores.
They monitor stuff like this, and Sony obviously feel that the poeple buying new games and content is so low that its not worth keeping the store open. They have every right to do that.
ranmafan
Member
If true, and I expect it to be true, it sucks. Just plainly sucks. And it will be worse if they will stop downloads of games you've bought after the closure date. I have too many games digitally for those platforms and no space to download them all. And there will be a ton of people with the same problem.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
The PSPGo let you see a download list even when they that store down. I have to go through my list in case they do shut it all down. Classic JRPGs on one memory card, PSP on another, and then go through my PS3 list. Make sure MvC2 and all the PS2 classics are downloaded somewhere. It's like Y2K for digital games.
I'm not really surprised or upset, the storefront itself is closing so you won't be able to purchase any new titles, but the servers will still remain for now, at least from what I've seen so far.
Hopefully you can still download previously purchased titles, sync trophy's, and any game updates.
Hopefully you can still download previously purchased titles, sync trophy's, and any game updates.
8bitpill
Member
I thought the PSP store shut down years ago.
This is me being optimistic, but hopefully this means Sony will roll out a central store front on the PS5 that you will be able to get games from PSP, PS3, and PS Vita.
Pretty much, this is the reason I never started going for digital on games, it cost said company to keep those servers up. When it comes to a handful of people interested in booting up said decade old system to play a older game, it isn't worth those couple hundred sales to them.
Lastly, as a thank you to the people like myself that own all those systems and handhelds, they should just do a 75/80% off all titles as it is about to shut down.
This is me being optimistic, but hopefully this means Sony will roll out a central store front on the PS5 that you will be able to get games from PSP, PS3, and PS Vita.
Pretty much, this is the reason I never started going for digital on games, it cost said company to keep those servers up. When it comes to a handful of people interested in booting up said decade old system to play a older game, it isn't worth those couple hundred sales to them.
Lastly, as a thank you to the people like myself that own all those systems and handhelds, they should just do a 75/80% off all titles as it is about to shut down.
Fake
Member
Actually is a digital problem, for the consumers. You need to separete consumers from corporatism.
For business pretty much everything is not a problem. Its just like saying 'hey this is not an anti-consumer decision, just a business decision'. Can be used as an argument for everything company decision related.
Making consumers pay for playing online game a business decision as well?
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I'll wait to hear more, but I started preparing for this a couple years ago by downloading all the games and patches I needed for those games. There are some digital only PS1/2/3 games I would like to get from the PS3 store so I'll probably start working on getting those. If something gets made official I may even get a backup PS3 and download/patch everything onto that in case my current PS3 dies. I still play the console regularly and my backlog on it is quite large.
Nemesisuuu
Member
When I played PGR3 last year I was surprised to see that leaderboards still work. MS is miles ahead when it comes to retro games support. It's not ideal tho, since games like before mentioned PGR3 are not on backwards compatibility due to licencing issues - and they could make them BC if you could play them from your physical copy.
Anyway - dick move from Sony.
Anyway - dick move from Sony.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Completely forgot about PS1 games being on the chopping block there too. Which is ridiculous because packaging an emulator for the PS5 for PS1/PS2 games wouldn't be that difficult.
As if vintage game prices weren't already terrible for the PS1, they're about to get a whole lot worse.
Can't help but feel like the PS3 being so architecturally terrible is screwing gamers too since it makes BC super difficult.
As if vintage game prices weren't already terrible for the PS1, they're about to get a whole lot worse.
Can't help but feel like the PS3 being so architecturally terrible is screwing gamers too since it makes BC super difficult.
LordCBH
Member
Somewhat same? I don't fully agree. I don't think they have an ethical obligation, but I do think they should keep these stores going.
Fake
Member
Companies never had such obligation, but I talking about consumers here, not about company.
I don't care if I have a Playstation or a Xbox here in my house, I just want a pro consumer from both system.
I believe in the following:
Agree with what benefits us and disagree with what hurts us.
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Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
As much as I'm all for "make these games playable elsewhere", I'm assuming the specific store licenses aren't easily transferrable to another piece of hardware or service. Especially in cases where studios have been bought and sold a million times or maybe have even gone out of business.
Even a good faith effort by Sony to get most of these games running on the PS4/PS5 probably wouldn't be able to secure *everything* so something will ultimately be lost.
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Captain Toad
Banned
PSP store is still kicking?
Imru’ al-Qays
Member
If Sony were making a good faith effort I don't think anyone would care about this. But they're not. And Microsoft has shown that you can secure an awful lot of games for your online store if you just make it an opt-out instead of an opt-in for publishers.
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Syphon Filter
Member
Digital can be done right, look at gog.
longdi
Banned
Good the core gaming media have taken note of sony anti-consumer rumors.
let the message spread.
Fake
Member
Agree. Worked with Microsoft trying to double the Xbox Live price, hope this works as well.
longdi
Banned
you do mean reason why not to go all in with digital on Playstation?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's how it is on delisted games and the PSP (store removed). You can still download them from your list.
The only one that blocked that was Konami and their temper tantrum with the free PT demo.
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Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
100% agree.
Microsoft has been second only to PC for BC efforts and absolutely should be commended. Not even Nintendo allowed me at any point to use a 20 year old disc in a modern console.
eastcoastkody
Member
lot of DLC gonna be lost
infinitys_7th
Member
Well, I know know where to get all this stuff. No problem for me
I buy almost everything physically for this very reason, but I can't fault people for arr'ing it up when companies make the games literally impossible to get. At that point, ethically (though not legally) the product is abandoned, and a digital product which has been abandoned is just a form of speech. It can be copied infinitely without any loss of resources, and the owners no longer give a shit by virtue of not selling it, so I don't really care if people do it.
I'm literally making a list of all the things I want to buy before they kill the PS3 Store - Legend of Dragoon, Persona 3 FES, Parasite Eve 1&2, the Fatal Frame trilogy and Xenogears are just some of them.
Any recommendations? I'm looking for hidden gems, PS1/PS2 classics and games that did weird and original things (think of Tokyo Jungle for instance).
This would make a great thread. I've bought all the 3DS eShop games I'd wanted to get, but I haven't really delved into the PSP/PS3/Vita side of what is worth getting that is digital only.
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wvnative
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if the entire gaming press grilled the shit out of sony over it's lack of preservation effort we might get somewhere eventually
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If you like arcadey racers, the Motorstorm games. The last one got good reviews.
longdi
Banned
but i have a feeling jimbo wont give a fuck
as i had been saying, since jimbo took on their global marketing efforts in 2016, playstation has changed.
at this stage, if anyone wants to jump in and pay more money to sony for these old game, i rather advise them not, you are not sure if sony even allows you to re-download them some time later.
in fact, spending on xbox archival games are safer.
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Agent X
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I don't know how reliable TheGamer is with news/rumors, but I certainly hope this isn't true.
There aren't very many discounts anymore, but there are still some on occasion. I just posted this thread a few hours ago.
www.neogaf.com
Nintendo shut down the Wii Shop Channel a few years ago.
Microsoft also shut down downloadable games on the original Xbox system about a decade ago, and also closed their "indie games" shop on Xbox 360.
It did.
There aren't very many discounts anymore, but there are still some on occasion. I just posted this thread a few hours ago.
Many NeoGeo and Double Fine games are 75%-85% off for PS Vita and PS4 (March 2021)
PlayStation Vita owners don't get too many big discounts on PlayStation Store these days. Generally, the only discounts are associated with games that are cross-buy with PS4 versions. Right now, there are some great games on sale for 75% to 85% off. These include several NeoGeo fighting games...
Nintendo shut down the Wii Shop Channel a few years ago.
Microsoft also shut down downloadable games on the original Xbox system about a decade ago, and also closed their "indie games" shop on Xbox 360.
It did.
Vae_Victis
Banned
They had already made it so it was impossible to buy PS3 and Vita games from the browser version of the store. It was pretty clear they were getting ready to shut down purchases completely.
It really sucks for all those games that are currently impossible to buy on any other platform, and will simply become inaccessible unless you already own them. This includes a bunch of PS1 and PS2 games that were never released on PC (at least digitally), on top of all the PS3 and Vita exclusives of course. If Sony had worked on a functioning PS3 emulation on PS5 they could have just transferred the whole lot with minimal pain, but they must have decided it didn't make economical sense for the sales those games get by now (which I don't find hard to believe).
In this I am giving for granted it will still be possible to at least download all owned games on those platforms. Because if that is going away as well, this will very very quickly escalate from "Man, that sucks. Oh well." to "Wait WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!?!?!?!" for a lot of people.
It really sucks for all those games that are currently impossible to buy on any other platform, and will simply become inaccessible unless you already own them. This includes a bunch of PS1 and PS2 games that were never released on PC (at least digitally), on top of all the PS3 and Vita exclusives of course. If Sony had worked on a functioning PS3 emulation on PS5 they could have just transferred the whole lot with minimal pain, but they must have decided it didn't make economical sense for the sales those games get by now (which I don't find hard to believe).
In this I am giving for granted it will still be possible to at least download all owned games on those platforms. Because if that is going away as well, this will very very quickly escalate from "Man, that sucks. Oh well." to "Wait WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!?!?!?!" for a lot of people.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I just bought a ps3 for Christmas. Sony basically said an all-digital console isn't a good investment.
jakinov
Member
The two posters are acting like what's happening is an inherent problem of digital but it's not. The business decision part isn't to say because it's a business decision you have to like it or accept it. It's to explain to them that it's happening because the business chose to do it for their own interest, in the same way that a retailer chooses to stop selling old games.
Also, making people pay for online games is also a business decision, it's whether or not they want to eat the costs or not of running the services.
Hnjohngalt
Member
Just bought a 256gb mini sdcard to backup all of my vita games. Good timing. I suggest you buy the vita card adaptor on amazon before they sell out. Its $5 nowjust fyi
Vae_Victis
Banned
There is a bit of both to be honest. Sony deciding to go this route is on Sony. The mere fact that all purchases/activations (or even downloads/license checks) of all the games on a given platform can be blocked from the top floor with one button press is inherent of the digital market.
With the physical market, even if all stores stop selling copies it is impossible to prevent individuals from selling or sharing their privately-owned copies. Unless the disk physically breaks, Sony stops having a say in what happens to my copy of a PS2 game the moment I have the disk in my hands. I can go and buy used games, I can create a freaking gaming library in common with 50 other people and have an always-accessible shared archive of games. In a digital market, most of these are impossible to begin with and all can be prevented if the platform holder decides so, or even just goes under and shuts down operations.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Zog
Banned
Wouldn't that be expected since the Vita came out 6 years after the PS3?
Everyone? ....and we have been saying it for years.
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