Brofist
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Blame it on the idiots that throw drive by troll comments like "FH5 looks like shit" that invite the footage comparisons
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Aenima
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remember_spinal
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DeepEnigma
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Cool.
ethomaz
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SLB1904
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Aenima
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It is identical cuz GT7 is pretty much built using GT Sport assets with enhanced visuals and new content. Biggest diferences i spot is the new lighting in GT7, better aliasing and more detail density in tracks. During replays biggest diference looks like the Ray-Traced reflections on top of everething else.
Still hard to compare GT Sport with GT7 during gameplay cuz most GT7 gameplay videos has been using new tracks. But this one already give an idea.
JimRyanGOAT
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You wont get graphics like the bottom gif until game engines are built specifically for Next-GenI made this gif back when the game was shown at the September PS Conference. It looked extremely dated.
Whats interesting is that the gif below shows how good this game can look. It is a prerendered sequence from the same trailer. Likely part of the game's intro. The PS5 SHOULD be able to do this in realtime.
The lighting, the ray tracing, the almost CG quality assets. We could've been getting this in realtime instead of in some prerendered intro. But I guess we will now have to wait another 5 years for PD to release a next gen only game.
Then the game itself is built from the ground up on that engine
Everything you see now is just scaled up from last gen engines
I feel like even the exclusives like R&C probably started development on previous-gen engines, with some extra emphasis on better lighting and using the IO
But the game itself was not built on a TRUE next-gen engine utilized specifically for the PS5
Digity.exe
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Real life can look boring sometimes but that's no fault of PD. The amount of detail from tracks that they capture is insane and I love it.
ethomaz
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Aenima
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I guess similar is a better word? English is not my main language.
VisualFidelity
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John Wick
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Makes GT7 look even worse. Like i said before maybe this is an early build and improvements are incoming? But in the current state FH5 is much better visually.
Gameplaylover
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Nothing compared to all those "Drive Club while raining" gifs in nearly any racing game thread.
NikuNashi
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I think inside the cockpit, animations, camera shake is much more realistic on GT7. FH5 looks more arcady just the handling and animation. I do like how the cock pit inside is reflected in the windshield glass on FH5. As for the foliage FH5 looks better, can't lie.
Car simulation? It's an arcade game and 30fps. What are you talking about?
supernova8
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More importantly it looks almost identical to GT Sport, which is a last-gen game. Obviously it looks better than GT6, people would laugh Yamauchi out of the room if it didn't.
Gameplaylover
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I think so. Considering that FH5 is fully open world and GT7 tracks only it should be able to look much better.
I think video below looks better. Colors are more vibrant. And what's the matter with the trees in the upper video? They all look the same!
(/s if it wasn't obvious)
MastaKiiLA
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I haven't played GT in a long time. I didn't realize they nailed Spa. Looks like they did as good a job with it as they did with Nordschlief. Spa-Francorchamps in hands-down my favorite circuit on the F1 calendar, so I look forward to taking Eau Rouge and Raidillon flatout.
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Melfice7
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all real world tracks were already great looking replicas, people who arent racing enthusiasts think having waving trees or explosions happening at track side makes it more fun
rofif
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Exactly like that. Now go do the same on the FH5 thread or any Xbox game for that matter.
Spukc
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Driveclub looks current gen
Why are people comparing an arcade racer with simcade? i don't get it. It's not the same thing at all.
ethomaz
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You know GT Sport already looks better than DriveClub…
Spukc
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Sometimes sure
ethomaz
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I have no ideia what are you talking about… maybe you like the more cartoonish and colorful way of DriveClub?Sometimes sure
But graphically GTS looks better than DriveClub.
BTW gameplay wise it lacks variety and modes… I don't bother with being arcardely but it really lacks options… maybe it is because I played the "free" PS+ version instead the paid one.
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Spukc
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It's the weather effects.. and the color grading they look bat shit insane in driveclub.
damn dude even in your video.. driveclub looks a gen ahead.
Those colors
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ethomaz
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So do you like cartoonish and colorful look but that doesn't make it better.It's the weather effects.. and the color grading they look bat shit insane in driveclub.
damn dude even in your video.. driveclub looks a gen ahead.
Those colors
The video clearly shows it one is looks better graphically.
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Spukc
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You played the game on a decent plasma or oled? Because those colors do not look cartoonish. Still the best color work to date in a racing game imo.
Damn even talking about it makes me want to do some laps in driveclub on the racing chair..
That zonda is so much fun in the game
custardbun01
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People saying this looks like shit having me thinking half this forum are fucking blind. Did we watch the same video? Go watch it in 4K on YouTube. It looks amazing.
Unknown?
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Hyperbole, that is all.
ethomaz
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In both.
I had a PLASMA for most PS4 generation and now I have an OLED.
It is too colorful and cartoonish… that is the art style they choose… it is the opposite of real life colors and look.
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xPikYx
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People expect more than GT sport assets with new illumination system
Yes Returnal avatar. Tell me how to cope.
SLB1904
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That's actually wrong. But carry on
xPikYx
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Doesn't look like
treemk
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GT sport already looks amazing with a life like visual style, upgrading that to 4k/60fps with dynamic weather and dynamic time of day is probably going to eat up most of what the PS5 can do (nothing to complain about though!). Games like Forza and driveclub might look better to some but they look like games and don't have the same realistic visuals.
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SLB1904
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if you say so.
Kazekage1981
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i think its pretty amazing that you can make a game like Gran Turismo 6 with less than 512MB of RAM, and now they are making Gran Turismo 7 with 13+ GB of GDDR6 RAM. They should implement FidelityFX so you can get 120fps and room for almost full Ray tracing, HDR
I made this gif back when the game was shown at the September PS Conference. It looked extremely dated.
Whats interesting is that the gif below shows how good this game can look. It is a prerendered sequence from the same trailer. Likely part of the game's intro. The PS5 SHOULD be able to do this in realtime.
The lighting, the ray tracing, the almost CG quality assets. We could've been getting this in realtime instead of in some prerendered intro. But I guess we will now have to wait another 5 years for PD to release a next gen only game.
Pretty sure that reveal trailer footage of Trial Mountain as shown in the top gif was still heavily WIP and looks to be missing AO in shaded regions which makes it look pretty flat. From that same reveal footage we also got this terrible looking scene in beginning pre-rendered portion of the trailer. I think it was pretty obviously wip.
The bottom gif shows the car going through more favorable lighting and even showcases the window dash reflections. The actual track assets (of Nurburgring) in that footage are pretty much straight ports from GTSport.
This is GTSport gameplay in similar ideal conditions which looks better than that top Trial Mountain gif and more akin to the bottom one.
I think GT7 looks better.
Better cockpit, lighting, and shadows. It looks much more realistic. However, environmental detail and camera is better in Forza.
The static camera head in GT7 is pissing me off, particularly when cornering.
Turk1993
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Desaturated colors are also not always realistic, there are saturated colors in real life especially in tropical countries. Also overcast lighting and weather is the easiest way to achieve a realistic look. Even Forza Motorsport 5 did it on a 1.2tf console at launch at 1080p60fps. Its easy to fool people when you watch it from a low quality video or gif. The moment you play it on your screen you will start noticing the low details in the environment (especially in GTS where there is no motion blur in 4K mode). Thats the reason why those so called realistic looking games are 99% in overcast dark lighting condition where there is almost 0 shadows or light bounces. GTS has amazing lighting most of the time but even the lighting can't save its low detailed environments. They need to up the details to match there good lighting. We have seen some improvements in the environments in GT7 but we don't now 100% if it will translate to gameplay or if its only for replay and photomode.