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[ArtHands]

There are a lot of speculation (or wishes?) from some people that Nixxes Software isn't working on Playstation PC games, but Guerrilla's tweet is indicating that Nixxes Software is indeed working (with them) on the updates for Horizon Zero Dawn PC.

 

[Shmunter]

And the core fans on PS5 got a simple frame unlock a year into the consoles life

 

[FrankWza]

The There are a lot of speculation (or wishes?)

 

[skit_data]

Virtuos must've really fucked up big time.

Not only does Guerilla Games themselves have to step in and fix stuff, but also Nixxes.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Add RTGI or at the very least SSGI.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

And the core fans on PS5 got a simple frame unlock a year into the consoles life

Maybe because the game was released on PS4 over half a decade ago and it ran perfectly and fully optimized for its hardware while the PC version came out a lot more recently with issues and they have been doing these updates to clean up Sony's messy original PC release. It's not like the game is running badly on PS platforms or something like that.

This idea that somehow developers need to graphically update and optimize all games they released before for free is such a weird thing to demand, honestly.

 

[dotnotbot]

You mean that whole studio is working on patches for HZD? No one said they aren't working on PC games, some were suggesting it might be not the only purpose they were aquired for.

 

[lh032]

And the core fans on PS5 got a simple frame unlock a year into the consoles life

It applies the same to console gaming in general. And PC is more powerful hardware, it supposed to run games better visually.
Expect console version to receive the same upgrade as PC is not realistic.

 

[GHG]

And the core fans on PS5 got a simple frame unlock a year into the consoles life

Console players are always second class citizens.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Maybe because the game was released on PS4 over half a decade ago and it ran perfectly and fully optimized for its hardware while the PC version came out with issues and they have been doing these updates because of that. It's not like the game is running badly on PS platforms or something like that.

This idea that somehow developers need to graphically update and optimize all games they released before for free is such a weird thing to demand, honestly.

The PC version has quite a lot of graphical upgrades vs the PS4 version that the PS5 should be able to handle, such as better draw dsitance, better vegetation and whatever else. The PS5 deserves better, thats a fact. Saying otherwise is stupid.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Console players are always second class citizens.

Apart from we get the better 1st party games

 

[Midn1ght]

The PC version has quite a lot of graphical upgrades vs the PS4 version that the PS5 should be able to handle, such as better draw dsitance, better vegetation and whatever else. The PS5 deserves better, thats a fact. Saying otherwise is stupid.

Foliage/Grass interaction is a big one on PC for me, a shame they did not add it on PS5 and even in Forbidden West if I'm not wrong.

 

[SlimySnake]

Well yeah, when Sony announced the nixxes purchase they specifically stated it was a for pc ports.

This is a good thing because it keeps GG engineers and QA people focused on horizon 2 instead of wasting six months fixing PC issues like they did last year potentially delaying horizon 2 on consoles. They literally had to announce they were done fixing issues after six months because it was getting too much.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Good. The release version had its issues, so I hope Nixxes makes sure that these mistakes don't happen again.

 

[ACESHIGH]

Keep mixxes pumping those PC ports. We really need them to implement checkerboard rendering on all Sony PC ports across all other upscaling solutions

I'd rather play these games at 2160CB vs native 1440p.

 

[recursive]

Console players are always second class citizens.

In all fairness you have to be a 1st class citizen these days to afford a sweet rig to play on pc.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Foliage/Grass interaction is a big one on PC for me, a shame they did not add it on PS5 and even in Forbidden West if I'm not wrong.

Yeah I wanted to replay it but I already own it on ps4 and was hoping I could just boot up the ps5 and have improved visuals. Maybe they'll reconsider before West is released, if not, then I may have to double dip I guess.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

The PC version has quite a lot of graphical upgrades vs the PS4 version that the PS5 should be able to handle, such as better draw dsitance, better vegetation and whatever else. The PS5 deserves better, thats a fact. Saying otherwise is stupid.

But this game never released on PS5? And Sony doesn't have the obligation to make a PS5 upgrade for a game that came out and we paid for 6 years ago on a different platform just because they now have better hardware...and all that for free. Expecting these companies to do these free game upgrades and for free is weird.

I get you're saying all that specifically for this game since there's already a PC version...but it's still not like flicking a switch. They'd still need time to work on that PS5 version...and Sony is never investing on that specially for free. Don't forget this game is already on PS Plus Collection...PS Now...it was also given for free (not even attached to their subscription services) through their Play At Home initiative, etc...

Sony is remaking a 2013 AAA game as we speak and will sell it at full price. You're asking for a free upgrade to a game you paid for in 2016. I'd love to get what you're asking for but it's never going to happen.

 

[winjer]

Maybe because the game was released on PS4 over half a decade ago and it ran perfectly and fully optimized for its hardware while the PC version came out a lot more recently with issues and they have been doing these updates to clean up Sony's messy original PC release. It's not like the game is running badly on PS platforms or something like that.

This idea that somehow developers need to graphically update and optimize all games they released before for free is such a weird thing to demand, honestly.

The game did release with some performance issues, but those were fixed almost a year ago.
Now we are just getting improvements that make the game even better. Support for DLSS 2.3.5.0 and FSR is great to increase performance.
And yes, it's for free. As any patch should be. Only on PlayStation do people pay for an mere patch.

 

[The Cockatrice]

But this game never released on PS5? And Sony doesn't have the obligation to make a PS5 upgrade for a game that came out and we paid for 6 years ago on a different platform just because they now have better hardware...and all that for free. Expecting these companies to do these free game upgrades and for free is weird.

I get you're saying all that specifically for this game since there's already a PC version...but it's still not like flicking a switch. They'd still need time to work on that PS5 version...and Sony is never investing on that specially for free. Don't forget this game is already on PS Plus Collection...PS Now...it was also given for free (not even attached to their subscription services) through their Play At Home initiative, etc...

Sony is remaking a 2013 AAA game as we speak and will sell it at full price. You're asking for a free upgrade to a game you paid for in 2016. I'd love to get what you're asking for but it's never going to happen.

No one is saying they have the obligation. We just think it would've been nice if they did.

 

[SLB1904]

Oh no nixxes is working on patches for hzd? So who's porting forbidden west to pc?

 

[Interfectum]

Oh no nixxes is working on patches for hzd? So who's porting forbidden west to pc?

Nixxes?

 

[SLB1904]

Nixxes?

How if they are patching the game for pc

 

[rofif]

Add RTGI or at the very least SSGI.

screen space ray tracing or gi is a crap.
The whole point is that you see lighting/shadows from the light sources OUTSIDE of the visible area on the screen.

 

[kruis]

And the core fans on PS5 got a simple frame unlock a year into the consoles life

It's fucking sad when you think of it.

 

[ManaByte]

Oh no nixxes is working on patches for hzd? So who's porting forbidden west to pc?

Nixxes.

 

[yurinka]

You mean that whole studio is working on patches for HZD? No one said they aren't working on PC games, some were suggesting it might be not the only purpose they were aquired for.

In addition to PC ports, in the past they also did support other teams like Guerrilla helping in tools and engine area. Probably in addition to improve HZD PC port, they may be working on other ports and integrating their PC specific stuff in Sony's engine to ease future ports.

The idea is to have Nixxes to do stuff like that, so Guerrilla can focus instead on making new games like Horizon 2 and don't waste their time on making or fixing PC ports.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Forbidden West may be their first real project. It was in the Nvidia leak after all.

 

[ClosBSAS]

Now fix the god awful low ass lod...the grass pop in is absolutely ridiculous in horizon and makes the game look like shit.

 

[ClosBSAS]

How if they are patching the game for pc

What? Did u just read ur posts? So they can't work on forbidden west and send measly patches at the same time? Lol game already mostly fixed. Just needs one or two small fixes and that's it

 

[DeepEnigma]

Console players are always second class citizens.

Someone get MS on the horn and holler at Halo Infinite.

 

[adamsapple]

I mean sure .. if you buy one of the best regarded porting studio, it makes sense to put them to work on your key franchises which may not have had the best PC launches.

Maybe MS should have commissioned Nixxess for the MS Store port of Halo: Infinite before Sony bought them.

 

[Lethal01]

screen space ray tracing or gi is a crap.
The whole point is that you see lighting/shadows from the light sources OUTSIDE of the visible area on the screen.

No the whole point is the lighting is more accurate, SSGI can increasing lighting accuracy by a ton especially when paired properly wiht other cheap techniques. Like Lumen is doing.

 

[Mister Wolf]

screen space ray tracing or gi is a crap.
The whole point is that you see lighting/shadows from the light sources OUTSIDE of the visible area on the screen.

Its better than just relying on Light Probe GI paired with SSAO like Horizon and Horizon 2 are using. Compare Days Gone PC port with and without it in the DF video. The game clearly benefits from it. Gears 5 also benefits.

 

[rofif]

Its better than just relying on Light Probe GI paired with SSAO like Horizon and Horizon 2 are using. Compare Days Gone PC port with and without it in the DF video. The game clearly benefits from it. Gears 5 also benefits.

i's better but meh... not much of a difference to wait for it

 

[Mister Wolf]

i's better but meh... not much of a difference to wait for it

You can say that about alot of the higher settings they give us on PC. Combined they are greater than the sum of their parts. More and more im starting to appreciate dynamic objects being properly lit and color bounce. After experiencing Metro Exodus the old method of dynamic lighting and even baked lighting looks like shit.

 

[Jigsaah]

Horizon Played pretty damn well on my PC...so is this just...further optimization?

 

[GymWolf]

And the core fans on PS5 got a simple frame unlock a year into the consoles life

4TheMasterRace

Gimme a fov slider and movable vegetations on ps5 aswell you cunts.

 

[KAL2006]

But this game never released on PS5? And Sony doesn't have the obligation to make a PS5 upgrade for a game that came out and we paid for 6 years ago on a different platform just because they now have better hardware...and all that for free. Expecting these companies to do these free game upgrades and for free is weird.

I get you're saying all that specifically for this game since there's already a PC version...but it's still not like flicking a switch. They'd still need time to work on that PS5 version...and Sony is never investing on that specially for free. Don't forget this game is already on PS Plus Collection...PS Now...it was also given for free (not even attached to their subscription services) through their Play At Home initiative, etc...

Sony is remaking a 2013 AAA game as we speak and will sell it at full price. You're asking for a free upgrade to a game you paid for in 2016. I'd love to get what you're asking for but it's never going to happen.

Exactly PC port is more important than creating PS5 port. PC gamers are more important, PlayStation fans don't care if they get less ports than PC.

 

[Corndog]

Virtuos must've really fucked up big time.

Not only does Guerilla Games themselves have to step in and fix stuff, but also Nixxes.

Last time I played it still had lighting issues in a few places.

 

[GHG]

Someone get MS on the horn and holler at Halo Infinite.

Deliberate sabotage doesn't count. You've got PC gamers in the halo threads talking about getting xboxes because of the poor performance.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Deliberate sabotage doesn't count. You've got PC gamers in the halo threads talking about getting xboxes because of the poor performance.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

And the core fans on PS5 got a simple frame unlock a year into the consoles life

It's still better to play the game on ps5 than on PC... Still since they already have the options defined I would've appreciated it if they bumped the draw distances and af a bit while they were at it on ps5.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Deliberate sabotage doesn't count. You've got PC gamers in the halo threads talking about getting xboxes because of the poor performance.

I would just as soon play Halo on my Series X as my 5950 3090 PC has some pretty bad stutter unless I limit the frames to 90 ish

 

[EDMIX]

Oh no nixxes is working on patches for hzd? So who's porting forbidden west to pc?

Nixxes?

How if they are patching the game for pc

smh. So they can't do both? whaaaat? lol

I really don't get this, does the gaming community really believes teams just do 1 thing or something? The amount needed to patch the game won't be the same as needed to port and even then lots of port teams are done by less then like 30 people as the thing you are talking about isn't some deep thing where 400 plus people are needed or something.

Asypr for many ports had like 20 people
Grove Street games is like 20 people
Bluepoint games was like 29 people or so. Read on what that is and you'll see its not this 1300 developer task or something that takes years, its something a small, like REALLY small team can do in mere months. So i'm 100% positive they can patch Horizon and do the port to 2 easily as generally that isn't a task needed by hundreds of developers or something.

When you look up the process, you'll see its not what you think. So I believe its very likely Nixxes will port 2 and do the patches to both games no issue.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I would just as soon play Halo on my Series X as my 5950 3090 PC has some pretty bad stutter unless I limit the frames to 90 ish

I'm okay with 90.

 

[kyliethicc]

And the core fans on PS5 got a simple frame unlock a year into the consoles life

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I'm okay with 90.

I am just saying I have a pretty beefy PC so I could see a lot of people with low to mid range PCs really struggling to run this as I have read its really poorly optimized for PC

 

[Hezekiah]

Maybe because the game was released on PS4 over half a decade ago and it ran perfectly and fully optimized for its hardware while the PC version came out a lot more recently with issues and they have been doing these updates to clean up Sony's messy original PC release. It's not like the game is running badly on PS platforms or something like that.

This idea that somehow developers need to graphically update and optimize all games they released before for free is such a weird thing to demand, honestly.

I think some of that is down to what Microsoft has been doing - for the start of this gen they had no games so put a lot of resources into upgrading old games.

 

[Haint]

I'm reminded of YoshiP tweeting it running on the Steam Deck (theoretically more powerful than a base PS4), yet somehow looking worse than a bastardized Switch port running in 480p.