Dream-Knife
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A launch year game even.On same system.
Current Graphics king on any platform?
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S0ULZB0URNE
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These 2 are the GOATS
kingpotato
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Danjin44
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Monolith Soft know how to make gorgeous visuals even on weak system.
Man can't wait for XC3.
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Dream-Knife
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It'll probably be my GOTY even though Elden Ring is coming.
Werewolfgrandma
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You know there are shitty looking screenshots of every game right. What's the best looking game to you? I can assure you there are shitty looking screenshots of it.I've got fiber
Danjin44
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Waiting for September is going to be painful.
RoadHazard
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30 can definitely be ok, but in that game it felt terrible to me. Just like in Control. There needs to be very good motion blur for 30 to not feel awful, and of course also low input lag.
Dream-Knife
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That's what Elden Ring is for.
M1chl
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At my clock there is 23:49, so fake pictureI've got fiber
Swift_Star
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Wth am I reading?Not at all, it's highly stylised compared to most other games, it's just let down by the hardware.
Show me a game that looks better than that, in terms of art direction and style. Pro tip: you can't.
Swift_Star
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Even DF recomends fidelity mode, I think I should trust them.
Buggy Loop
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Ok, you know what? That's the answer. Doesn't matter the headset actually, but Half Life Alyx, even if you think it's not a technical marvel when looking at 2D videos, when you experience it, the depth and scale of everything, it's a game changer. Even simple "shaders" that would just look "standard" in 2D were amazing in VR because it really connects everything with the depth of field.
No other game floored me like this one
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kingpotato
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I'm sorry, but the argument you shouldn't fly close to the ground is so silly. In the same post people will say that but also claim you can see so much of .... empty sky I guess? I'm not insulting the technical achievement, but it really is far from being the best looking "game". Feel free to find a screenshot from any of the top games mentioned in here and put it next to flight sim. I look forward to your "shitty" screenshots of Rift in Time and Demon's Souls.
93xfan
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Not at all, it's highly stylised compared to most other games, it's just let down by the hardware.
Show me a game that looks better than that, in terms of art direction and style. Pro tip: you can't.
Art direction doesn't equal graphics.
People just want to talk about technical visual achievements. And Okami HD has your game beat
Krappadizzle
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I'd put Death Stranding and Red Dead Redemption 2 on PC still kinda neck in neck for graphics king right now. Though, it's a crapshoot, there are some really great looking games coming out pretty regularly now, so who knows.
Banjo64
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Graphics don't equal art direction. Okami HD is a PS2 game rendered in 8k downsampled to 4k about a dog who falls in love with a grasshopper. Pokémon Arceus has rolling.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Topher
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Arguments could be made for many games. R&C? Sure, but it is still a crowded field. Death Stranding RDR 2. Demon Souls Remake. Flight Simulator. Forza Horizon 5. GoTG. And.....
Fantastic looking game even on lower settings with my 2080 Super.
Fantastic looking game even on lower settings with my 2080 Super.
Deerock71
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I don't even hate the game, but it does not stack up technically to graphical scrutiny. It looks good in places, but decidedly ehhh in others.Not at all, it's highly stylised compared to most other games, it's just let down by the hardware.
Show me a game that looks better than that, in terms of art direction and style. Pro tip: you can't.
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Banjo64
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I appreciate your opinion, but it's the best looking game ever made.
Just look at this screenshot;
Deerock71
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Have I...TAKEN the bait?!I appreciate your opinion, but it's the best looking game ever made.
Just look at this screenshot;
TidusYuna
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Banjo64
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R&C has all art but no tech. RT is only on reflections.
Technically it definitely goes to Flight Simulator. The sim is doing a lot of tech under the hood.
Technically it definitely goes to Flight Simulator. The sim is doing a lot of tech under the hood.
Banjo64
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All art but no tech - I get you fam. Same as all dick and no balls. Do I know what it means? Maybe. Maybe not. But the game looks like shit. I think?
Kenpachii
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LowSpecGamer strikes again i see.
kingpotato
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Did someone hurt you? Just looking though the insane amount of graphics options for a console game suggests R&C has a lot going on...
Have you played fight sim and panned the camera over the plane while flying over water? The halo of artifacting looks horrendous around the edge of the plane. I hope it's not taboo to suggest looking at water when the planet is 70% covered in it.
kingpotato
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It's on a current gen console produced by the company that published this game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Flight Sim on a pure "look at this" tied with the Matrix demo.
VFXVeteran
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This is a thread based on opinion. I stated mine and yet I'm getting butt-hurt replies because my opinion doesn't align with yours?
There is nothing technically advanced rendering-wise in R&C that hasn't been done before. I can name several things in FS2020 that hasn't been done before like texture synthesis.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Guardians and Ratchet have really decent 30 fps modes.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Why wouldn't you choose rdr2 on PC? I bought the disc of rdr2 so I could play version 1.00 and I prefer the patched version with hdr. I can only imagine how much better PC must be.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Meh ..why does it have to have "never been done before"? Ratchet looks amazing I think you're just averse to picking a game that has to be 30 fps to look that good lol
EverydayBeast
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Ratchet and Clank is the perfect example as why Nintendo should take things like graphics, power, gpu etc. seriously.
Vick
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Because of these reasons:
"Only real "Lower than Low" are reflections but it's perfectly clear why looking at how absolutely awful they look maxed out on PC.
On Consoles SSR only purpose was to enrich the perfectly placed cubemaps (tons of them, everywere). Their use it's extremely limited, and tastefully added as you never really notice them. In short reflections on Consoles are working as they should, they never draw attention to them, and never appear/disapper all of a sudden because all they do is add (soft) detail to the cubemaps, or give some life to window's glass.
On PC higher reflections settings are a fucking mess. They look super blocky and ugly and glitchy because they were never meant to be seen that way, and simply destroy any kind of immersion whenever they are on screen.
On Consoles v.1.00 uses Ultra Textures, Ultra Geometry, Ultra Draw-Distances, better Ambient Occlusion than any setting on PC, additional light sources, better facial hair and so on.
I'm really not sure what the hell is up with the AO in v.100, but it's by far the best AO i've ever seen that's not RT.
Every version after that just implements a regular kind of SSAO, totally missing the kind of pre-rendered look AO have in version 1.00, and this includes the PC settings.
It's a whole different beast, no way around it, and while there aren't many comparisons using v.1.00 out there unfortunately, an example can be seen on Arthur's face here for example.
And resolution aside the most notable differences between Pro and Base are these ones:
Pro:
Base:
Of course PC version is still recommended for 60fps (altough not perfect, as some animations are still 30fps), water physics, long shadows, foliage resolution, far object's texture resolution.. but if there was a way to play 1.00 on Series X at 60fps, it would be without a doubt the best version of the game."
And these are base PS4 settings, post downgrade.
Topher
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StateofMajora
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Question is 1.0 very buggy?Because of these reasons:
"Only real "Lower than Low" are reflections but it's perfectly clear why looking at how absolutely awful they look maxed out on PC.
On Consoles SSR only purpose was to enrich the perfectly placed cubemaps (tons of them, everywere). Their use it's extremely limited, and tastefully added as you never really notice them. In short reflections on Consoles are working as they should, they never draw attention to them, and never appear/disapper all of a sudden because all they do is add (soft) detail to the cubemaps, or give some life to window's glass.
On PC higher reflections settings are a fucking mess. They look super blocky and ugly and glitchy because they were never meant to be seen that way, and simply destroy any kind of immersion whenever they are on screen.
On Consoles v.1.00 uses Ultra Textures, Ultra Geometry, Ultra Draw-Distances, better Ambient Occlusion than any setting on PC, additional light sources, better facial hair and so on.
I'm really not sure what the hell is up with the AO in v.100, but it's by far the best AO i've ever seen that's not RT.
Every version after that just implements a regular kind of SSAO, totally missing the kind of pre-rendered look AO have in version 1.00, and this includes the PC settings.
It's a whole different beast, no way around it, and while there aren't many comparisons using v.1.00 out there unfortunately, an example can be seen on Arthur's face here for example.
And resolution aside the most notable differences between Pro and Base are these ones:
Pro:
Base:
Of course PC version is still recommended for 60fps (altough not perfect, as some animations are still 30fps), water physics, long shadows, foliage resolution, far object's texture resolution.. but if there was a way to play 1.00 on Series X at 60fps, it would be without a doubt the best version of the game."
And these are base PS4 settings, post downgrade.
kingpotato
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Okay.... But if we are taking about "graphics king" you would select a (at times) shoddy looking game because it has new technical implementations rather than a game like R&C where every single screenshot is almost flawless? I mean it's hard to take you seriously about the rendering techniques comment when games like CP2077 and Control push new lighting and raytracing techniques so hard and look 1000x better.
Vick
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Not at all, actually.
And visually, any other version is considerably more buggy (in terms of draw distances/pop-in and reflections).
They completely fucked with the game, internally, after launching RDO.
