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[Riky]

I have no idea what difference shmunter and vick are talking about lol, they look virtually identical in the comparisons

As that shows the Series X has a resolution advantage on average as well as framerate advantage in the 120fps mode.

 

[Vick]

As that shows the Series X has a resolution advantage on average as well as framerate advantage in the 120fps mode.

I know it's you, but how can you possibly say Series X has a resolution advantage on average?

The video is reporting the same resolution for both, so are you pulling this out of somewhere or? Genuinely confused.

 

[adamsapple]

As that shows the Series X has a resolution advantage on average as well as framerate advantage in the 120fps mode.

Yes, Vick is looking at a difference in AA coverage in a 400% zoomed segment and taking it as a difference in IQ, that's not the case lol.

 

[Vick]

Yes, Vick is looking at a difference in AA coverage in a 400% zoomed segment and taking it as a difference in IQ, that's not the case lol.

You guys are right, better performance and resolution on Series X.

 

[adamsapple]

The more impressive thing is that the ELEMENOPEE comparison says the consoles are aiming for 2160p in the 120 FPS mode as well.

Which sounds ridiculous on paper, and the image is visibly softer in that mode compared to 60 FPS, so that's weird.

 

[Arioco]

Well I own them on Xbox sounds hopefully they cab patch that version if it looks worse than ps5. There's no reason for the series x to look worse. Maybe a direct x 12 thing.

But does it? Honestly I couldn't tell the difference if my life depended on it. xD Even when having them side by side in front of my nose they just look the same IMO.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I have no idea what difference shmunter and vick are talking about lol, they look virtually identical in the comparisons

Where have you got the idea that the playstation version is better than the xbox version?

Both are extremely close performance wise and look identical pretty much?

I was just going by this thread. Maybe it's not too different, looks like it's the 400% zooms showing the difference.

 

[Shmunter]

Yes, Vick is looking at a difference in AA coverage in a 400% zoomed segment and taking it as a difference in IQ, that's not the case lol.

Those zooms are for your benefit to point out the difference as you couldn't see it. I can see it in the split side by side in the video on my tv pretty plainly. 0100100101 posted own screens previously, also obvious there.

If you don't see the difference at normal viewing distance, good for you or your vision is not as good. Simple as that. But now you know there is a difference.

 

[adamsapple]

Those zooms are for your benefit to point out the difference as you couldn't see it. I can see it in the split side by side in the video on my tv pretty plainly.

I can't, even now outside of the 400% zoom difference in AA on the statue, there's literally no notable difference in any other visible area of the screen, even the walls and lights that are farther *behind* the statue look identical.

But does it? Honestly I couldn't tell the difference if my life depended on it. xD Even when having them side by side in front of my nose they just look the same IMO.

The two of us need glasses

 

[Shmunter]

The two of us need glasses

Let's put it this way, I usually cannot tell the difference between e.g 1800p and 4k on most images that have high iq with no shimmer or jaggies. But this here stands out like dogs balls to me.

 

[Vick]

The more impressive thing is

Even if my desire to start an argument with you two guys is comparable to my desire of smashing my balls with an hammer, i just have to say that the most impressive thing to me is the length you and Riky can go in order to "defend" Xbox.
It really is insane, like 99% of people looking at the Thread wouldn't be able to see the blatant differences in IQ in that comparison you're claiming are non-existent.

Maybe it's not too different, looks like it's the 400% zooms showing the difference.

It's not too different, and actually has a performance advantage.

As for the "400% zooms" (which isn't zoom at all considering the game runs at 4K and that's a compressed YT grab to boot), it's because adamsapple asked me this:

Are we supposed to notice an obvious difference there ?

In response to this image:

Which was itself a response to this:

I have no idea what difference shmunter and vick are talking about lol

 

[K' Dash]

You know, I woke up today and looking at this thread I realized that I'm too old to care about 400% zoom on a very specific area of the game to see the difference, who the fuck is going to notice shit like that while playing?

 

[Riky]

I know it's you, but how can you possibly say Series X has a resolution advantage on average?

The video is reporting the same resolution for both, so are you pulling this out of somewhere or? Genuinely confused.

I know it's you , but you've actually quoted it yourself.

Common 2016p
Common 2160p

That's one having a higher resolution.

 

[EverydayBeast]

People still play the original versions of these games.

 

[adamsapple]

Damn Vick, chill lol.

Yes, that marble statue looks cleaner in high zooms despite them both running identical pixel counts with a very minor difference, that's because of AA coverage like I said before. The underlying texture quality etc between the two is identical.

People still play the original versions of these games.

Of course, they're bloody classics.

 

[Shmunter]

Damn Vick, chill lol.

Yes, that marble statue looks cleaner in high zooms despite them both running identical pixel counts with a very minor difference, that's because of AA coverage like I said before. The underlying texture quality etc between the two is identical.





Of course, they're bloody classics.

There is shimmer, especially in motion on XsX, where there is complete stability on ps5.

Yes it's either a cheaper AA solution or a cheaper reconstruction technique, or a lower base for the reconstruction. Any of the above, I'm not Alex Battlestargalactica.

 

[OLED_Gamer]

You guys are right, better performance and resolution on Series X.

Isn't this what is supposed to happen tho?

In saying that, I have both consoles and RE2 on both. Playing it on PS5 again (thanks non-smart delivery for feeding my trophy habit). Gave both a go for science and flicked back and forth between inputs and couldn't notice a difference.

 

[Vick]

The two of us need glasses

Well, i mean.. yes. lol

I know it's you , but you've actually quoted it yourself.

Common 2016p
Common 2160p

That's one having a higher resolution.

Was too distracted by the IQ differences. Sorry.

 

[Skifi28]

Why for the love of god couldn't they target a lower resolution in RT mode when the game clearly can't hit the fps target? People keep talking about underpowered hardware, but 99% of the time it's wrong developer decisions for no apparent reason.

 

[Vick]

Yes, that marble statue looks cleaner in high zooms despite them both running identical pixel counts with a very minor difference, that's because of AA coverage like I said before. The underlying texture quality etc between the two is identical.

There's actually another difference in AO, but if IQ looked identical to you i'm not even going to bother with that. Peace.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Hopefully they can patch them to parity and as everyone says framerate is the most important thing so hopefully they don't affect the framerate on the series x version if they do patch the AA solution.

 

[Mr Moose]

As that shows the Series X has a resolution advantage on average as well as framerate advantage in the 120fps mode.

I know it's you , but you've actually quoted it yourself.

Common 2016p
Common 2160p

That's one having a higher resolution.

We're suddenly trusting that source?

Wait for VGTech.

 

[DenchDeckard]

We're suddenly trusting that source?

Wait for VGTech.

Yeah, I feel that's an text error and it's 2160p on both ps5 and xbox.

We should wait for the trusted sources.

 

[Riky]

Yeah, I feel that's an text error and it's 2160p on both ps5 and xbox.

We should wait for the trusted sources.

He has a 2088p count for the 120fps compared to 2160p as well.

 

[Shmunter]

Dupe

 

[TGO]

I have no idea what difference shmunter and vick are talking about lol, they look virtually identical in the comparisons

Dude.. are you legally blind?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Dude.. are you legally blind?

 

[mhirano]

Resident Evil 2 RT mode on PS5 stutters too much, not even VRR can run it smoothly

 

[NeonGhost]

Would love to see how fast you can kill birkin with a knife now in 120fps mode on console

 

[RobRSG]

Suddenly, El Analista De Bits becomes the most reliable source ever.

 

[DenchDeckard]

He has a 2088p count for the 120fps compared to 2160p as well.

Ah ok. Will keep a look out for vg tech and digital foundry.

All versions look ok, looking forward to playing my series x version.

 

[Vick]

Resident Evil 2 RT mode on PS5 stutters too much, not even VRR can run it smoothly

Looks magnificent though, straight pre-rendered and even photoreal at times on my panel (but that's also true for the non RT mode to be fair). After calibration at least.

I wasn't expecting RT at that resolution in 60fps anyway, i'm just glad the game can be played on Consoles looking like this at all. Hopefully at rock solid 60fps in a not too distant future, on Pro versions of consoles hopefully, or Next-Gen at worst.

It's not like i'll ever grow tired of RE2R.

 

[adamsapple]

Death, taxes and DeepEnigma gifs are the only 3 certainties in the world

Resident Evil 2 RT mode on PS5 stutters too much, not even VRR can run it smoothly

Yeah based on twitter chatter, seems like the PS5 version is running sub 60 almost always in the RPD, or whereever the RT would need to kick in for reflections.

The SX also drops but seems like it does less so.

Same result for the 120 FPS mode, SX has a couple of frames of advantage all the time.

edit:

In general RE2make seems to be heavier on the resources and Re3make runs better, which is a bit counter productive as you'd expect the newer, more action heavy, game to be the more resource intensive.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Death, taxes and DeepEnigma gifs are the only 3 certainties in the world

Edit: You know what, that was mean.

Here: I aim to please.

 

[mhirano]

Looks magnificent though, straight pre-rendered and even photoreal at times on my panel (but that's also true for the non RT mode to be fair). After calibration at least.

I wasn't expecting RT at that resolution in 60fps anyway, i'm just glad the game can be played on Consoles looking like this at all. Hopefully at rock solid 60fps in a not too distant future, on Pro versions of consoles hopefully, or Next-Gen at worst.

It's not like i'll ever grow tired of RE2R.

Locked 60fps is too much to ask for, but 40-60 with good frame pacing is within reach, but thats not the case at the moment.

 

[Lysandros]

Surprising how much superior the ps5 iq is compared to X. Res counts are the same so it's either a higher reconstruction base or superior AA.

Whatever it is it's evidently more intense based on lower fps. Although locked 60 mode is the best choice anyway.

I would take his findings with a huge grain of salt, this is a banned and unreliable source.

 

[assurdum]

As that shows the Series X has a resolution advantage on average as well as framerate advantage in the 120fps mode.

Only you can give credit to elanalist pixels counts

 

[Physiognomonics]

I know it's you, but how can you possibly say Series X has a resolution advantage on average?

The video is reporting the same resolution for both, so are you pulling this out of somewhere or? Genuinely confused.

Yes it's much cleaner on PS5 (PS5 is the one without much aliasing / artefacts). The resolution difference is meaningless compared to this IQ difference. The game actually looks higher res on PS5.

It's not the first time this happened. DF will no doubt miss this.

 

[tommib]

Dude.. are you legally blind?

Legally and contractually biased.

 

[assurdum]

Lol what a shitty mess is ps5 VRR in this game. I played RE2R with raytracing and VRR off just for curiousiry and it's infinitely more tolerable with lower average fps than automatic VRR on. I really invite some people to give a try, the hell is that shit, I'm losing my mind with this crazyness, it's definitely more playable and not in a minor way.

 

[Gambit2483]

So what's the general consensus on this?

Is the Ray Tracing worth the lesser performance? Are the different games more or less the same with the new graphical modes? I just see so many different takes on this...

 

[Vick]

So what's the general consensus on this?

Is the Ray Tracing worth the lesser performance? Are the different games more or less the same with the new graphical modes? I just see so many different takes on this...

Not worth it at all in my opinion. Also i just noticed that once you reach the Nest the RT implementation gets quite a bit noisy, like in the rest of the game on the save screen (typewriter close ups) if you play on Hardcore, and other little places here and there.

If you disable RT, you get much, much superior IQ compared to previous gen (at least on the jump PS4 Pro - PS5), some additional reflections, and less noisy and broken SSR (but still not ideal), all at rock solid 60fps.

This all for RE2 as i have yet to try RE3 and RE7.

 

[assurdum]

So what's the general consensus on this?

Is the Ray Tracing worth the lesser performance? Are the different games more or less the same with the new graphical modes? I just see so many different takes on this...

Well I heard in RE7 raytracing is quite more visible in the lighting where in the other two game is barely perceivable. Just the reflections are worth it. I have to admit the only reason because I prefer raytracing in RE2R is because I can't stand the horrid SSR which is really annoying in the most important areas.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

So ist this an update or a standalone version of the existing games??

 

[adamsapple]

So ist this an update or a standalone version of the existing games??

Both. PS4 and XBO versions can be updated for free.

You can also buy "PS5" and "Series X" versions from the store if you don't already own it.

No physical release.

 

[Rossco EZ]

is the lowest difficulty on 2 and 3 still really hard? i wanna play through 2 and 3 casually without much of a challenge at first

 

[rofif]

I am gearing to replay re2 for sure! it runs pretty good and usually never drops below 60.
I tried playing some with the controller (series 20th anniv) and the game controls so well.
I finished it twice with mouse on release but I would like to chill and lean back.
Is dualsense supported? or only on ps5?

 

[Dust-by-Monday]

RE7 looks very different in general in both modes compared to last gen versions.

Yeah because the textures load now.

 

[Vick]

Yeah because the textures load now.

Thank God, but it's not just that. Lighting and shading are significantly different.

 

[KormaChameleon]

Downloading Steam version now, Will upload some screen shots if I remember tomorrow.