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[LazyParrot]

Finally someone has seen through the BS that the GPU market is. Absolute waste of money when all it comes down to is higher framerate and resolution. A fool and his money Springs to mind.

Sounds like next gen consoles so far lol

 

[CuteFaceJay]

For good grafix and high FPS :/

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

For Gaming? is just Alex Battalgia levels of dumb. For Productivity/Research tho. I think it matters.

 

[Manwithoutfear]

The point is to play games at 4K120 or to use raytracing that is a generation ahead of console raytracing.

this guy gets it.

 

[K.N.W.]

To suffer. Every extra high end card gets blasted by a new one the following year, and all you are left with is the desire to buy the new one. Either this, or for longevity reasons (my 1080ti from 2017 waves hello to the upcoming games).

 

[SNG32]

My 3080 cant run cyberpunk at 4k 60 fps. I have to use DLSS performance which uses 1080p base resolution and it still tops out around 50 fps with ray traced lighting set to Quality instead of the max Psycho setting.

Im guessing 4080 wont be able to run it at native 4k 60 fps with ray tracing enabled since Nvidia is being shady about revealing actual non-DLSS performance metrics. Matrix also topped out at around native 4k 40 fps.

The focus on the new gpus is all dlss. A 4080 might be able to hit native 4k 60 fps but it won't be stable. Especially for games that are more cpu driven.

 

[phil_t98]

If you have the money why wouldn't you?

I mean a lot of people own both the high end consoles , it's because they can

 

[OZ9000]

I think high end PC gaming used to have reasonable prices. 1080Ti at $699? Fucking phenomenal value for such a high spec card (which can still play every game today).

The pricing for the new set of cards is straight up eye gouging. Nvidia charging scalper/mining prices. Retarded as shit.

 

[JCK75]

it can last you longer, I mean I got a 1080ti in 2018, now 4 years later I still have no desire or need to upgrade it.

 

[GymWolf]

Just like in real life,
Dynamic TOD means sometimes shit looks ugly other times it looks beautiful.
Consoles version looks uglier 10 times out of 10.

But thats not even the point.

We are talking about why would you buy a high powered PC to play the same games.....my point is the games look better on PC and run at a higher resolution and refresh rate.
If that improvement isnt worth it for you, thats fine....no one forced anyone to play on PC or even to buy a high powered GPU.
But for those that appreciate the higher quality.....theyve got hardware that can accommodate.

Theres people who still play on 1080p TN panels with washed out colors.
Thats them, you play on an OLED.
Effectively OP could have reframed this question as why do you want things to look better when you are actually playing the same shit?
Why did you pick up an OLED, why not keep playing on a TN 1080p TV.......that OLED cost ~1000 dollars, a TN 1080p screen you find in the bin for free.

Oh no i got your point since your first reply, i was just talking about your pics specifically.
I play almost everything on pc so no need to explain why we need better hardware.

 

[GymWolf]

Same here, its just cherry picking pictures really.

Wait, i thought you were in the cyberpunk\rtx bandwagon, maybe i'm mistaking person.

 

[SNG32]

If you have the money why wouldn't you?

I mean a lot of people own both the high end consoles , it's because they can

I have the money to buy a 4090 ti and have both a PS5 and Series X. I chose to buy a laptop instead since it's portable and I like having a gaming laptop and switch combo when i'm travelling and PS5 and Series X while i'm at home.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Sometimes you just want what you want.

 

[RoboFu]

It's a question I have struggled with since I was 15 …

 

[sendit]

Finally someone has seen through the BS that the GPU market is. Absolute waste of money when all it comes down to is higher framerate and resolution. A fool and his money Springs to mind.

+ Increased visual fidelity. You're lying to yourself if you're marginalizing framerate. Framerate can literally make or break a game in terms on how responsive it is.

Say you can't afford it without saying you can't afford it.

 

[ResilientBanana]

OP the point is to have those games look 10x better than what the console can produce. Which it does. You just haven't seen it in person.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Some men just want to watch their PC burn.

 

[ACESHIGH]

It's all about display tech. I play at 1080p 60 and sometimes down sample. But what if you have an Eyefinity setup? VR? Higher refresh rate monitors? Modded games? That's when that extra power is out to good use in gaming.

GTX 1060 level HW should be fine playing at Xbox series S settings as long as you pair it with a Ryzen 6/12 CPU and 16 GB RAM.

 

[Negotiator101]

Sounds like next gen consoles so far lol

One is affordable the other is overpriced.

 

[Black_Stride]

I think high end PC gaming used to have reasonable prices. 1080Ti at $699? Fucking phenomenal value for such a high spec card (which can still play every game today).

The pricing for the new set of cards is straight up eye gouging. Nvidia charging scalper/mining prices. Retarded as shit.

Wanna weird anecdote?

$600 in 2016 would be $650 in 2020.
The 3080 launched at 700 dollars.

Ampere treated us too well....basically only a 50 dollar increase over two generations.


I checked inflation on the 3080 to 4080'16G
$700 in 2020 would be $800 in 2022.
So we could surmise the 4080 should be around 850 maybe 900 tops?
How much is the 4080'16G......fucking 1200 dollars!!!!

 

[nkarafo]

Pretty sure you can't use DLSS or Ray Tracing or play most games at 60fps @ higher resolutions with a 1060...

 

[Orta]

Since consoles are pretty much running on cpu architecture. What's the point of buying top of the line gpus when the majority of people have a 1060 and developers keep that in mind when developing most games. Sure the graphics maybe shinnier and you get a bit more fps but in comparison to consoles the gap isn't as big as it was like 10 years ago.

We're the Master Race. It's what we do.

(We're also sad bastards but are very comfortable with that).

 

[Danknugz]

Since consoles are pretty much running on cpu architecture. What's the point of buying top of the line gpus when the majority of people have a 1060 and developers keep that in mind when developing most games. Sure the graphics maybe shinnier and you get a bit more fps but in comparison to consoles the gap isn't as big as it was like 10 years ago.

machine learning / AI applications and development, video rendering.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Better graphics, higher resolution, higher frame rate.

Might as well ask "why would you buy a PS5 instead of a PS4?"

 

[DGrayson]

Buy gpus to push your games and monitor. Simple as that. I play 1440p and 144hz so I'm golden with a 3080

 

[TheGecko]

To show off, and defend their purchase on forums.

 

[dorkimoe]

Gamers more than any other group of people have the "i need it first" mentality

 

[HTK]

Since consoles are pretty much running on cpu architecture. What's the point of buying top of the line gpus when the majority of people have a 1060 and developers keep that in mind when developing most games. Sure the graphics maybe shinnier and you get a bit more fps but in comparison to consoles the gap isn't as big as it was like 10 years ago.

Because I run Warzone on the highest settings in 1440p at around 160-215 FPS. That's why. I like clarity in my image, beautiful visuals, and the greatest performance in FPS. I thought this was a no brainer.

 

[Kacho]

Console gaming is all about compromising to achieve a respectable (often not) combination of graphics settings, framerate and resolution. In a lot of cases you can only pick one of the three at the expense of the other two.

Better GPUs mean you have to compromise less when it comes to graphics settings, while also running games at higher resolutions and framerates. Sure, you have to spend a lot more money to do that, but that's what ballers do.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

It mean my pp bigger than ur pp lol

 

[LazyParrot]

One is affordable the other is overpriced.

That's for the buyer to decide. You're not gonna talk someone who wants a Bugatti into buying a Jetta just because it makes more sense from a cost/performance perspective.

 

[Negotiator101]

That's for the buyer to decide. You're not gonna talk someone who wants a Bugatti into buying a Jetta just because it makes more sense from a cost/performance perspective.

Hardly the same when neither is being held back by older tech. We aren't seeing the full potential of these GPU's because engines can only scale so much, it's basically horsepower being left on the table, but I'm not telling anyone not to buy as it drives the industry forward.

 

[TintoConCasera]

We aren't seeing the full potential of these GPU's

Try playing Cyberpunk at native (no DLSS) 4K, all settings on ultra and RTX enabled on anything but a 3080/3090, then come back and tell us how it went.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Finally someone has seen through the BS that the GPU market is. Absolute waste of money when all it comes down to is higher framerate and resolution. A fool and his money Springs to mind.

 

[kyussman]

I imagine for PC enthusiasts it's the ability to sleep at night knowing their precious rig is fully upgraded.

 

[Icymanipulator]

What's the point of spending money on a nice car? A cheap car will get you where you're going. /s

 

[nocsi]

Cause I can't enjoy my games unless I let others know that I am able to play my games at maximum graphics. Honestly I don't even play games. I just build pcs to run games at maximum, knowing peasants can never have what I have. That's a bigger dopamine than games

 

[The Pleasure]

"turns off pc crossplay"

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Why get a HDTV? All it gives you is higher resolution and picture quality than SDTV.

 

[Skifi28]

Cause I can't enjoy my games unless I let others know that I am able to play my games at maximum graphics. Honestly I don't even play games. I just build pcs to run games at maximum, knowing peasants can never have what I have. That's a bigger dopamine than games

An elitist after my own heart!

 

[SLB1904]

 

[M1chl]

For work, as in "debugging" ML models which you are doing, trying your CUDA software, shaders, etc. It helps with time and time is money.

Also even when I have 3090 OG, VR isn't really ideal, for example Flight Sim, could use bump in my case : )

 

[itsjustJEFF]

Cause we love pretty things, even if it's not our pretty thing.

It's a hobby and like all hobbies you have those who are at the most extreme. But most you have those who don't see the need to be that extreme, can't/won't fork out the money for that sort of extreme. If you're a low/mid just appreciate the dudes willing to go that EXTRA mile, you're living vicariously thru them!

 

[TheRedRiders]

Global Illumination is the true holy grail of RayTracing.
Weve been able to "fake" reflections for so long that I think techniques are good enough to just get away with it.
But Global Illumination is still some ways away from being properly "faked" to the point that its as game changing as it is in Metro Exodus and Dying Light.

Probe based GI does a really good job, but once youve gone RTGI, you really cant go back, even SSRTGI is better than no GI.

This.

I've had this discussion on other threads as well, I believe RTGI is one of the best RT features in terms of the visual results it delivers, however I also noticed it's the least implemented across titles, this is likely due to its high cost in CPU/GPU resources. However 4A managed to pull it off on consoles at 60 FPS in Metro Exodus which is an eye melting game. I'd love to see more of it on future titles.

As for the original OP, I think it makes sense to get high end PC GPU to get the best gaming experience...especially for those of us who have a passion for the visuals and the technology behind them. I used to own a PS4, then moved on to the PS5 when it launched and I remember playing AC Odyssey for the first time in 60 FPS and the experience is truly transformative, the world feels more alive, it looks much better and the controls and immersion just feel so much more "snappy".

I have no doubt that we'll get some visually stunning games within the next two years and it's a safe bet that both PS5/SeriesX will struggle to run such games in 60 FPS, so I'm going to invest in a relatively high end GPU and PC gaming rig...60 FPS is just way too good and it's hard going back to 30 FPS honestly.

 

[decisions]

I bought a $2400 gaming rig with a 3080Ti in it about a year ago. It was a waste of money. Not one game have I ever felt like used the 3080Ti to its fullest potential. You can get slight improvements compared to next-gen consoles on games that are optimized well for 5x the price.

Let's not forget that most games are not optimized well for higher-end hardware and don't scale at all past a certain point (ex. Escape from Tarkov where I get the exact same performance as my friend with a 2080).

 

[bender]

To make up for having very small penises.

 

[geary]

Since consoles are pretty much running on cpu architecture. What's the point of buying top of the line gpus when the majority of people have a 1060 and developers keep that in mind when developing most games. Sure the graphics maybe shinnier and you get a bit more fps but in comparison to consoles the gap isn't as big as it was like 10 years ago.

Not to whine that CP2077 looks outdated. With an 1060 looks like random old gen game. With 3080 is the most beautiful game released in the last years.

 

[nemiroff]

People who can afford to "waste" their money are mostly immune against being told they are wasting their money by people who can't. It's ok, I'm sure you'll survive.

I got my 5950 because I have a 4K VR headset running flight simulators, and I like high framerates (which is why I also have a 240Hz monitor..).

 

[Hydroxy]

I enjoy having the fastest gpu, which us why I went from a 3090 to a 3090ti and will very much likely buy a 4090 then a 4090Ti.

Just say epeen

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

I love the comments by obvious console exclusive players attempting to dunk on PC players but ironically it just reveals their own insecurities.

Play where you want to play within the budget you feel comfortable with. It's the reason their are options in the first place. You're not gonna convince a pc player who is willing to spend $2k+ on a high end rig that they should just settle on a $400 console, and vice versa, deal with it.