Oh yes, let's compete by letting me sell my competing things on your platform. Terrific logic.
Because it's a ludicrous thing MS are suggesting here so of course they didn’t offer.
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mxbison
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Much bigger part would be Playstation owners subscribing to GP and cancelling PS+.
It would be an awful deal for Sony. Even the thought of it seems absurd.
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Maiden Voyage
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Makes sense. It would kill a lot of potential game sales revenue for Sony. I honestly don't really see a problem with this and I think it's probably what is best for future game dev.
First of all. Neither I, neither you know what kind of offer Microsoft took to Sony. Honestly, if they offered streaming first-party Game Pass "lite" catalogue of games through Game Pass app on PlayStation that would be great. Same if Sony offered similar "lite" service on Xbox.
But I know that defending corpo is more important than having flexibility as a player right?
UK Governments like all businesses have a bunch of legacy systems running on OS that doesn't get transported easily especially between Windows and MacOS. The parts of the UK government was still using using XP in 2015; 5 years after mainstream support had ended. There will be programs and systems that will be lost so would have to completely replace if they are going from Windows to MacOS or another OS; it might very well depend on the services/systems that you are using. It's not particularly UK specific issue as parts of the German govt was paying to extend windows 7 support in 2020.
Freeman76
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Hahaha post of the day!
Banjo64
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Should be separate Game Pass SKUs for Sony and Nintendo for it to work IMO.
No third parties, just first party catalogue, Sony take 30% of all PS Game Pass subscriptions.
Same for Nintendo, but streaming only on Switch.
£7.99 a month for both. You need Sony and Nintendo’s online subs for online play.
Can’t see it working any other way. Neither platform holder will allow third parties IMO.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Let's keep this in the OT can we, please ?
Badlucktroll
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Maybe they are trying to “get in to” playstation so they can impliment their old strategy of “embrace, extend, extinguish”.
matt-rickard.com
(it looks like microsoft is starting to play games instead of just offering a healthy competing product)
Embrace. Extend. Extinguish.
A timeless strategy for technical products. One of the most effective forms of [API warfare](/api-warfare/) which Microsoft was (is) most notorious for. From a
(it looks like microsoft is starting to play games instead of just offering a healthy competing product)
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Men_in_Boxes
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StealthGoblin
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Well obviously.
Makoto-Yuki
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Their loss.
Let's hope PS Plus turns out to be a good competitor.
Let's hope PS Plus turns out to be a good competitor.
Banjo64
cumsessed
To retain players who want to play TES 6, Fallout 5 and CoD in their eco system rather than migrating completely or partially to Xbox?
Markio128
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Why not just release those games on PS5 and make bank?
Gambit2483
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Buying as much as possible and locking it behind Gamepass was/is MS' ultimate goal.
Want COD/DOOM/Crash Bandicoot? Put Gamepass on your system/ platform.
Want COD/DOOM/Crash Bandicoot? Put Gamepass on your system/ platform.
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Because whole Microsoft's strategy is aimed at subscription service and not at traditional "sell me your game for 70$"
I thought people already noticed this.
They want that sweet monthly revenue. So it will be either "you will allow subscription" or "you won't have ABC games". With exception of Minecraft and COD.
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Banjo64
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Probably because MS hope people will stay subscribed at £7.99 a month rather than buying the 2 or 3 MS games they are interested in.
Personally if Switch allowed Game Pass, even just streaming, for MS first party I know I’d sell my Xbox and stay subscribed all year around on Switch.
kyussman
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Nah,there is no plus to having your major competitor who is on a mission to consolidate as much of gaming as they can under their umbrella put their subscription game service on your platform,lol.
ReBurn
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It would be awesome if you could choose the OS for your iPhone. I mean, you own the phone, right?
Tiago Rodrigues
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Would Xbox allow PS Plus on Xbox Series? lmao
Like why is this even brought up? What does MS win from saying this? Genuine question btw.
Like why is this even brought up? What does MS win from saying this? Genuine question btw.
Kenshin775
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I mean maybe that was part of the proposed deal. MS wouldn't object to it. I think in the future having all consoles pre-installed with both Gamepass and PS Plus would be great for me. I get the best of both worlds and only have to buy one console and I could switch between Game Pass and PS Plus whenever I please. Or just stay subscribed to both. I watch Amazon Prime, Netflix and Disney Plus on my TV and phone. Why not have Gamepass and PS Plus playable on the same devices? Am I crazy or would this be more convenient
Captain Toad
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Well, no shit.
Rhazer Fusion
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Am I missing something or wouldn’t putting Gamepass on PlayStation essentially make owning or buying an XBOX console pointless? I know it’s more money for Microsoft in the end, but with a PlayStation, wouldn’t you be getting the best of both worlds? Your best feature(Gamepass) will be on the competitor along side with their exclusives.
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Markio128
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My own experience of streaming has been unsatisfactory, to say the least, so I can’t really see the positive there.
Are you talking about the NHS? Governments always pay for extended support because of cyber security on deployed systems. Wouldn't be chaos if they decided to switch from windows though.
In 2015 the UK stopped paying for windows XP support to stop laziness of not upgrading the few remaining systems. So that the 0.16% of the NHS’s 1.4 million devices would upgrade. They signed a new £150M deal to upgrade to Win10. If MS had dropped support they would have laughed and transitioned to something else instead and MS would just lose a customer.
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Business
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The message is Sony are greedy bastards that only care for the money while Microsoft cares for consumers wanting to offer them choice. It's the same thing they tried to pull last gen with crossplay when they were miles away in hardware installed base.
Mephisto40
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This is like McDonalds asking Burger King if they can set up a Big Mac stall in all their restaurants
Buggy Loop
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Well they offered one last chance to join, but they chose war.
jk, don’t get your panties in a twist
crackajack
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WTF are they talking about? The offered terms were probably absurd, like allowing anyone to just log in and play, while Sony never getting any cut. Basically hijacking the PS userbase, like EGS exclusive games removing their game from the steam store before release and using it as free ad space. Sony would not block eg Starfield on PS5 as long it is released like Psychonauts 2 and Deathloop etc. MS can release anything on PS5 if they don't introduce their walled garden.
Ezekiel_
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I really don't get this "GamePass on PlayStation" thing.
How would that work exactly?
Why wouldn't Sony want this?
They accept EA Play.
Not only shouldn't they block it, they should actively want it. Imagine having every Microsoft first party game available on PS5, with native PS5 versions.
Wouldn't that automatically kill the need for an Xbox?
And also, Sony would get 30% of the subscription cost.
Microsoft would have to make PS5 version of games available.
MS would de facto become a third party publisher.
There's a "PC GamePass", a "Xbox GamePass", they would just need to make a "PS GamePass"
I don't get why Microsoft would do such a stupid move, unless they intend on being third party and abandoning console making.
Obviously, any online game not free to play would require PS+ Essential minimum.
Sony would be winning on all fronts.
No way MS offered to put GamePass on PS.
If really there was an offer, it must've come with some pretty shitty conditions for Sony, like no cut, MS Store included on PlayStation, etc.
How would that work exactly?
Why wouldn't Sony want this?
They accept EA Play.
Not only shouldn't they block it, they should actively want it. Imagine having every Microsoft first party game available on PS5, with native PS5 versions.
Wouldn't that automatically kill the need for an Xbox?
And also, Sony would get 30% of the subscription cost.
Microsoft would have to make PS5 version of games available.
MS would de facto become a third party publisher.
There's a "PC GamePass", a "Xbox GamePass", they would just need to make a "PS GamePass"
I don't get why Microsoft would do such a stupid move, unless they intend on being third party and abandoning console making.
Obviously, any online game not free to play would require PS+ Essential minimum.
Sony would be winning on all fronts.
No way MS offered to put GamePass on PS.
If really there was an offer, it must've come with some pretty shitty conditions for Sony, like no cut, MS Store included on PlayStation, etc.
Roman Empire
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Well, it goes both ways. Microsoft has its own ecosystem that it wouldn't dare Sony to sell its games.
Every company wants their customer to rely on them and only on them for their products. Prime example is Apple's App store. It's only common practice.
Every company wants their customer to rely on them and only on them for their products. Prime example is Apple's App store. It's only common practice.
There is two sets of different issues, anything that's a client device that's largely used to access what effectively is a web app is easy yes.
The other issue would be old systems that running local and custom applications, that's going to be more painful.
There are unknowns to what is powering thier cloud-based applications.
TheGodfather07
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yeah.. im glad microsoft are giving me the choice to continue playing future bethesda games on PlayStation..
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chixdiggit
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Why wouldn't they? Nobody is going to subscribe to PS Plus instead of Gamepass when given the option of both. Why not collect a percentage on those that would subscribe to both like the services from EA and Ubi?
That's what I think. How is this not a clear path for Sony to taking over the console space?
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Men_in_Boxes
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DForce
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The spin-offs aren't going through this much trouble to put the games on the platform.
This conversation is over.
You're simply in denial of the fact that MS isn't looking to keep COD on the platform after the agreement.
Tiago Rodrigues
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Have you...seen both services offerings ever since PSPlus changed? The only thing PSPlus doesn't give you is day oen games because Playstation games actually sell.
chixdiggit
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I'm not saying it's terrible or anything. Just that the majority of people would choose GP over PS+.
Topher
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It is pure hypocrisy. That's what lawyers do though. They are paid to ignore the sins of their client but highlight and promote the sins of their client's enemy even if they are the exact same sins. It is like this "PlayStation chose to block Game Pass" nonsense. Well of course they did. Microsoft lawyers are pretending MS was doing Sony some favor by offering to bring GP to PS, if that is even true which I seriously doubt.
There is so much corporate lawyer bullshit in all this correspondence going both ways.
Because operates in the UK. So does Activision Blizzard. So they have to abide by the rulings of the CMA or not operate there anymore or perhaps some other consequence.
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Azurro
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MS knows Sony's business model. If they are so anxious to get their games on PS, they can start porting Halo and Gears of War to it.
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