Thirty7ven
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Gabe Newel will be there sucking MS’s dick. Dude couldn’t give a fuck about anything other than Steam.
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DarthPutin
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I hope things will leak from this meeting 
Lots of people, apparently.
Lots of people, apparently.Moridianae
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Honestly, I hope they put the kibosh on it. I only chime in on this thread periodically, but it really kind of irks me that anyone would think this is good for gaming.
Microsoft shows up with the big ol' checkbook and snakes two *publishers* replete with all of their potential franchises and somehow that's a great thing?
Sony buys people to fold into the PS Studios, but not once have I ever seen them grab an entire publisher.
I said to my best friend Microsoft's "fuck you, I'm not growing my studios, here comes the buyouts" wouldn't stop with Bethesda and here we are.
It sets an incredibly dangerous precedent. People thought they'd stop with Bethesda and I see no indication if this DOES go through, they'll just stop there.
Microsoft shows up with the big ol' checkbook and snakes two *publishers* replete with all of their potential franchises and somehow that's a great thing?
Sony buys people to fold into the PS Studios, but not once have I ever seen them grab an entire publisher.
I said to my best friend Microsoft's "fuck you, I'm not growing my studios, here comes the buyouts" wouldn't stop with Bethesda and here we are.
It sets an incredibly dangerous precedent. People thought they'd stop with Bethesda and I see no indication if this DOES go through, they'll just stop there.
James Sawyer Ford
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He should be against the deal, tbh. CoD on GamePass hurts PC.
Rac3r
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Yup, and he's clearly salty about Sony investing in Epic.
Bitmap Frogs
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Considering he's been for several years following the strategy of creating an environment where Steam can exist without windows by investing heavily in Linux gaming and considering he's talked publicly how Microsoft is the number 1 risk for Steam, I am not so sure he will be as friendly to Microsoft as you suppose.
IFireflyl
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Varteras
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I will slap your tits off if you talk about my best friend like that again.
gothmog
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I hope you all have a tit slapping good weekend.
demigod
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Would be stupid of Valve if they side with MS considering they were buddies with Epic during the Apple trial.
demigod
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Alright what anime is this? Need to know so i can block from accidentally watching it.
I don't think he cares that much. he is pretty pro-MS, might be something to do with them being his past employer. Things being windows only makes his company less agile with expanding into the device space and Valve doesn't seem to care all that much about that. The true litmus test is if or when Steam sales start to decrease due to cloud or subs. That's when he will start to see it affecting his business.
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IFireflyl
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Gabe isn't pro-Microsoft. He's pro-gaming. He's actually a gamer, and he doesn't want to engage in practices that hurt gamers. It's also the reason he doesn't engage in exclusivity deals on Steam, even though Epic Games (Valve's competition) has abused that.
FoxMcChief
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PharaoTutAnchAmun
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The ride is not over yet, the best part of the rollercoaster is yet to come, keep your puke bags ready and hold on to your potatoes
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PharaoTutAnchAmun
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But they do...they said many many times "Xcloud" is build on Azure, so another lie.....
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Daneel Elijah
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If the CMA was the yellow light, the EU will be either the red one, or the policeman who told you to go. Microsoft began the merger one year ago. This thread began in september, and il was fun to read and see memes, analysis and meltdowns depending on the info available.
But we are closer to the end. I hope that it will be soon.
Edit: I just googled Microsoft president Brad Smith and he seems to be a pretty good laywer with decades of work, great accomplishments and had worked with regulators since the 2000's. How did Microsoft did this merger this unprepared with a man like him in charge? He worked in London a few years so he even had experience there. Is the wikipedia page on him all bullshit?
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mansoor1980
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aries_71
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But technically what does that mean? If I‘m not mistaken, xcloud runs on real Xbox console units, not azure server clusters. Stadia used to run on specific google server racks. It looks like XCloud runs on azure only on some technicality, such a load balancers or whatever. But it’s really a bunch of Xbox clustered together.
And I agree that if XCloud is really Azure, not only on a technicality, then MS would be light years ahead than the competition.
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Thirty7ven
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The spin is incredible. MS people have said Xcloud is azure for years, they only changed their minds now to argue against regulators.
But owners and their dogs I guess.
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aries_71
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I’m not trying to spin anything. I’m genuinely interested in knowing about xCloud and azure, since I was a huge fan of Stadia but never tried xCloud. Azure is huge, if xCloud is much more than Xboxes then MS has a huge head start. It’s evident you don’t have much to contribute in the subject but the usual console warfare.
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Snake29
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They can better go full multiplatform and release everything they have on other platforms. Console wise, they could better stop trying to compete if they just can't market their console or making bad 3rd party deals. This whole ABK deal is bullshit imo and won't mean people suddenly going to buy xbox consoles if CoD won't end up on GP.
The only one that is taking games away in full force atm is MS. The people trying to counter that with a single game like FF are idiots and delusional. Square itself is behind this and not Sony alone.
A FF16 won't sell shit on Xbox but the devs would've still have spent to much devtime to develop it for the Xbox. They reason why a lot of 3rd party devs want to work and market their games with Sony is because of how stable PS is as a company for generations right now. Xbox is just a big risk and they even do not market their console that much what i see.
Only losers are pointing fingers at the winning team because they lack creativity or knowledge to manage their studios. It's baffeling that the Xbox fanboys still trying to say that it's Sony fault that MS and Xbox are in this position lol.
So 1+1=2.
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jm89
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ArcaneNLSC
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Lulu not being a crazy
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I'm here for you Lulu.
Heisenberg007
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Brad Smith is the genius that threatened Sony's fate to be like Blockbuster
and further weakened their case of ABK.
Heisenberg007
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She's telling us that she's close to a mental breakdown and needs help?
Lulu not being a crazy
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Thirty7ven
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It’s a post linking to a tweet linking to a post linking to a report
Ronin_7
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This acquisition news delivered Big time since Last January. Can't believe everything will be over soon
Daneel Elijah
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Yeah. Still, there is good lawyers at Microsoft. I hope that if the deal fails we learn in the future how they saw the deal when it began last year.Brad Smith is the genius that threatened Sony's fate to be like Blockbuster
MasterCornholio
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Well hopefully we find out what the EC wants from Microsoft from this.
It probably won't be a free lunch for them.
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IFireflyl
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Here you go:
https://build5nines.com/microsoft-xcloud-azure-powered-game-streaming/
I don't know where you got this notion that xCloud doesn't use Azure, and I don't know why you moved the goalpost to "it's only load balancers" (nor do I understand where you even got that idea) after I responded to you previously that Microsoft's own website states that xCloud is built on Azure. Regardless, this article should answer all of your questions. You cannot have xCloud without Azure. Azure isn't just a "load balancer".
Microsoft wouldn't have xCloud without Azure. It is the bedrock of xCloud, and xCloud wouldn't work without Azure, custom hardware be damned. Strike this notion that xCloud either doesn't use Azure, or that it doesn't require Azure. Both of those sentiments are false, and, until they started playing this game with the regulators over this acquisition, everyone knew this. Now they're backtracking on the Azure part of xCloud to try to get this acquisition to go through, but their own websites and developer documentation shows that xCloud is dependent on Azure.
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MasterCornholio
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I'm wondering if the regulators are going to feel insulted by this.
IFireflyl
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I think regulators expect these mega corporations to lie or mislead them. If they don't expect that then they aren't, in my opinion, very good regulators.
aries_71
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Interesting article, reading it, thanks a lot. The rest of your “moving goalposts” diatribe, not really needed. I’m not here to pick fights with strangers.
MasterCornholio
Member
You would have to be an idiot not to see that though. I understand they expect to be misled but in this case they are being treated like idiots IMO.
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Topher
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I agree. Probably why regulators are not so keen on "behavioral remedies" which are essentially promises to behave as stated. I doubt regulators want to have to keep tabs on these corporations 10 years later and make certain they are holding to their word.
knocksky
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What exactly has Microsoft said to the regulators?
Topher
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That xCloud doesn’t use Azure.
IFireflyl
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I wasn't trying to be insulting. I was just surprised to log in today and see that your stance changed from, "I thought xCloud doesn't use Azure," to, "Maybe Azure is just a load balancer." It seemed like you were trying to find reasons why the Azure piece isn't a big deal. If that's not what you were doing then ignore the goalpost comment. It's hard to read into intentions over the internet.
EDIT: And how are you still a Junior Member? You have over a thousand posts, and you have been on this forum since 2007. Wtf.
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IFireflyl
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I mean, the more blatant example of treating them like idiots was when Microsoft/Activision said that they would be happy to educate the regulators on how the gaming industry works. Regulators have to have thick skin, but if they don't then the lies and condescension would definitely be bad for Microsoft/Activision.
MasterCornholio
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In the end this is just going to backfire on them.
knocksky
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Really? Surely they wouldn't say something so easily verifiable! Who did they say they are using then? Google?
fred420170
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Ya'll know that Sony uses Azure today right?
https://www.windowscentral.com/sony...d-cloud-service-will-be-playstation-exclusive
https://www.windowscentral.com/sony...d-cloud-service-will-be-playstation-exclusive
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