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[Drell]

Yep, the same company that has been having an absolute monopoly since the 90s over the PC OS "market" and productivity softwares. Microsoft owns monopolies, it is by definition a monopolistic company.

 

[IllegalLemon]

Don’t care what anybody says, this is way fucking embarrassing. Goddamn they sent this boy out there to beg on the public square my lord

A person that compares Sony(one of the largest Music & Movie producers) to Blockbuster(which only sold movies and allowed renting), isn't someone I'd consider fit to be in the position of president (that comparison was embarrassing). I'm more than likely to compare him to a snot nosed adolescent than a fully grown man, sorry. He isn't the person that inspires a lot of confidence either, especially after that inadequate rant disguised as a presentation he did yesterday.

 

[GHG]

Sonygaf

Sonygaf

Shut your trap, we Eurogaf now.

Know your place cretin.

 

[GHound]

You all realize that if the deal doesn’t go through Microsoft will buy publishers that you actually care about instead?

I'm sure everyone realizes that if this deal goes through they're going to try anyway.
While their cheerleader buttsquad squeals in excitement from the sidelines no less.

 

[dotnotbot]

You all realize that if the deal doesn’t go through Microsoft will buy publishers that you actually care about instead?

No other publisher has AAA portfolio so well suited to gamepass. And if they aren't allowed to buy ABK then Take2 with R* games is off the table as well.

They could try buying smaller publishers but then it's not gonna be as quick and easy to gain gamepass subs as they want.

 

[Topher]

Why are they shutout? MS doesnt force you to buy an xbox and pay $70 a go to play their games. PC, cloud, now looks like streaming.

Sonygaf are always telling us about their gaming PC, time to dust it off and enjoy the Bethesda games like everyone else, via gamepass or purchase, what ever price point you prefer.

And unlike Sony's someday maybe approach to PC you wont have to wait, enjoy the games same time as everyone else. ACCESS BABY!!!

This thread will peak on the day the deal is approved, Sonygaf meltdown of epic proportions is coming, strap yourselves in!

There is only one company increasing access and reducing the cost of gaming and its not Sony or Nintendo.

 

[mansoor1980]

what kind of chart will jim ryan show to regulators?

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

You all realize that if the deal doesn’t go through Microsoft will buy publishers that you actually care about instead?

The best part about this deal failing is that it protects EA, Ubisoft, and Take2 as well.

 

[ToadMan]

The ‘Microsoft is pure evil’ brigade never fail to surprise. Is everyone here a Linux user?

I’m betting most are windows and office users.

That’s how they know what MS is like when it attains control of a market.

 

[Drell]

The best part about this deal failing is that it protects EA, Ubisoft, and Take2 as well.

I don't think these guys would see a fail of this deal as a "protection". They'd love to suck MS dick for billions of dollars.

 

[ManaByte]

what kind of chart will jim ryan show to regulators?

Pictures of his cats.

 

[Pelta88]

what kind of chart will jim ryan show to regulators?

107 Billion VS 2 Trillion

 

[Nothing1234]

what kind of chart will jim ryan show to regulators?

Microsoft market cap vs Sony market cap seems a good start. Maybe dabble into revenue each year or cash on hand?

 

[Topher]

what kind of chart will jim ryan show to regulators?

Pictures from Microsoft's Sting concert perhaps?

 

[mansoor1980]

im thinking

 

[N30RYU]

This needs to end... I want sony to continue fexing game muscle instead of making lame state of play pretending to look weak.

 

[Sanepar]

They just had an old man dancing the Macarena on stage at Brussels. CMA is done for.

U just forget they can bribe regulators and "change" their decisions right?

 

[emivita]

Shut your trap, we Eurogaf now.

Know your place cretin.

I need a thousand memes of this picture in my life.

 

[Thirty7ven]

U just forget they can bribe regulators and "change" their decisions right?

Last I heard if they don’t go through with the deal they will just buy the UK and the European Union with those 69B.

 

[Metnut]

The regulators know Microsoft’s anticompetitive tricks and are rightfully subjecting this to strict scrutiny. Microsoft has been in antitrust litigation for decades.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Last I heard if they don’t go through with the deal they will just buy the UK and the European Union with those 69B.

Or abandon them and turn them into third world countries

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

well...obviously?
How would the brand even survive without all the studios that actually work on it? Selling off CoD was never a realistic option.

 

[MDSLKTR]

I need a thousand memes of this picture in my life.

You will, this pie chart instantly became a timeless classic

 

[ToadMan]

Some people, here, believe that MS offering "presents" to other companies in exchange for their acceptance of the deal is a sign that this deal is a good thing for consumers...

Companies never made a deal that would harm competition or consumers ….

 

[Topher]

what kind of chart will jim ryan show to regulators?

 

[NickFire]

Time to end this nonsense. And put them on probation. No more deals until they go at least 3 years without misleading PR.

I give them 48 hrs without it tops.

 

[MisterXDTV]

well...obviously?
How would the brand even survive without all the studios that actually work on it? Selling off CoD was never a realistic option.

Actually they are trying to buy a whole PUBLISHER, not just the CoD studio(s)

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

If regulators had been doing their jobs the last 20 years we wouldn't be at this point right now, but better late than never.

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[ToadMan]

Opposing the deal is not about Microsoft, it is about monopoly

If Sony were to acquire EA or Ubi Soft every one should oppose this deal

Well there is a nuance.

It’s not just the acquisition - it’s what comes after.

Bungie for example - Sony made it clear, they’re stand-alone.

That’s ok - revenue is diverted to a different bucket, but fundamentally consumers can enjoy playing Bungie’s current and future offerings wherever those games are “naturally” published.

Compare and contrast to MS. Limited time offers for existing franchises, while future stuff, even known in development titles - taken hostage.

MS approach will destroy our hobby.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Actually they are trying to buy a whole PUBLISHER, not just the CoD studio(s)

...that's not what I said.

 

[Hendrick's]

You know someone can be against a trillion dollars monopolistic company without necessarly being a Sony fanboy, right?

The odds of that here are equivalent to being struck by lighting while underground.

 

[demigod]

well...obviously?
How would the brand even survive without all the studios that actually work on it? Selling off CoD was never a realistic option.

If you were following the acquisition thread, you would know that they had to sell those studios making CoD along with it.

 

[Sanepar]

What Ms is asking to regulators: Mr. Regulators please help us to invert this chart in our favor. We can't and we don't want to create great sp games. Now we need to force consumers to change platforms and we need your help.

 

[baphomet]

well...obviously?
How would the brand even survive without all the studios that actually work on it? Selling off CoD was never a realistic option.

The options given were divesting the entire CoD machine, or Activision as a whole.

Which are essentially the same thing.

 

[kirby007]

thinking ANY corp is interested in you instead of your money is hilarious

 

[KungFucius]

So a 10 year deal is really their limit?

Geez they really showed their ass on that one

Why do people think like this? Companies can fire thousands of people when the market turns but are expecting them to solidify a business deal for more than a decade? Content arrangements that long are not the typical way of doing business

The latest NFL broadcasting deal is 10 years and covers several outlets, is that really their limit? Geez they showed their ass on that one.

The latest NBA deal was 9 years, is that really their limit? Geez they showed their ass and left nut on that one.

Twitch signs streamers to undisclosed length but multiyear contracts, is that really their limit? Geez they should have showed their ass on that one but hid it.

Netflix does a lot of 100M + agreements but the content output is not disclosed. Disney signed Favreau to an "insane" deal that is probably much less than 10 years. Paramount signed a contract with the producer of Star Trek and other shows to 5.5 years.

The few examples of content agreements I found are all 10 years or less, yet you people are magically expecting something longer and unprecedented because why? Because you think the owner of your favorite platform deserves a longer period without needing to renegotiate a deal than any other platform owners in recent history?

If you were running a company and had the opportunity to sign a long term deal or a super long term deal what factors would make you choose one over the other? Simplistically if you think you can get a better deal by either signing again in the future or finding an alternative, you would take the shorter deal. If 10 is too short, what is long enough?

 

[Rien]

I hope it doesn't and that all those games come to Game Pass day 1. More value for my money.

Yeah until uncle Phil goes to raise the price on your precious service.

 

[Smoke6]

Well, without the exclusive MLB license, they couldn't create their own MLB baseball game. This is why MLB The Show is on Xbox: either they released it on Xbox to maximise sales, or, they lost the exclusive license.

And Sony is welcome to try and use the Government agencies to do its business negotiations for it. However, if it goes wrong, they're at the mercy of Microsoft - and the regulators won't help them. Sony needs to prove their claims, or any agency decision based on Sony's lobbying will be thrown out pretty quickly on appeal. And in that scenario, Microsoft holds all the cards. Based on the recent subpoenas, it seems Sony legitimately thought they wouldn't have to provide evidence for their claims - which goes some way to explain the insane claims Sony made to the regulators ("without Call of Duty, the Sony Corporation will be foreclosed by Microsoft"). Now that it's come time to put up or shut up, Sony is begging for more time. They'd better have some incredible paperwork, or Papa Jimbo's gameplan may well backfire. Jimbo and co is either three steps ahead, or twelve steps behind.

Not really!

Many have suffered from COD fatigue just they have with Assassins creed games. The biggest market for COD is PlayStation and seeing how everyone outside of MS is paying full price for games, this is gonna hurt MS more than anything!

You have several studios rotations on these games and that costs! So we’re really gonna sit here and act like MS war chest is gonna keep this series alive which is the top game of this acquisition?

What if a handful of PS console owners get an Xbox for this, they’re still getting it for Pennie’s on the dollar as it’s gonna be on game pass day one right?

So as an investor, where am I seeing revenue generated in the likes this game normally does before the buyout? You clearly don’t have the market share and even being on Nintendo, how will crossplay work for this type of game compared to console and PC?

Man I just want this shit over! It’s irritating hearing about this and being a gamer and business minded about it is too much. I digress and we have no choice but to wait and see this through

 

[demigod]

Shut your trap, we Eurogaf now.

Know your place cretin.

Spoiled brats not getting their way so they ran to the media yet again. Woe is me.

I bet they paid those so called “journalists” to be there.

 

[Drell]

The odds of that here are equivalent to being struck by lighting while underground.

Refuting my random affirmation with a console warrior one.

 

[jm89]

Chris drings take on the matter.



He goes in hard in the article and normally his a reserved dude. But he sees through the microsofts/acitivisions bullshit.

 

[Thirty7ven]

If your message is that you want to be where the player is then you can’t turn around and keep games away from other consoles just because you also want to keep growing your own console hw business.

MS is on a eat cake and have cake mode and they rely on their astroturfing to keep the message alive.

If you were running a company and had the opportunity to sign a long term deal or a super long term deal what factors would make you choose one over the other? Simplistically if you think you can get a better deal by either signing again in the future or finding an alternative, you would take the shorter deal. If 10 is too short, what is long enough?

Your examples are all bad because all of this content you talk about is hw agnostic. Netflix isn’t out there selling TVs, and keeping content away from other select TVs.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Chris drings take on the matter.



He goes in hard in the article and normally his a reserved dude. But he sees through the microsofts/acitivisions bullshit.

Finally someone in the media is starting to call out MS on their bullshit.

 

[Nothing1234]

`Activision is turning this circus into one that’s run by a bunch of six-year-olds high on sugar. This sort of rhetoric might have won Donald Trump a huge audience, but this isn’t the US and it isn’t the court of public opinion.`

God damn Chris Dring.

 

[demigod]

Chris drings take on the matter.



He goes in hard in the article and normally his a reserved dude. But he sees through the microsofts/acitivisions bullshit.

I just skimmed thru it but it says nothing about the briefings(quote me if in wrong on this), only the pr stunt. I don’t see the EU accepting this. EU is Sonyland compared to UK. Folks in EU says Sony does huge marketing compared to xbox’s non-existent marketing.

If they were in favor, you would hear the clowns at ms like greenturd shouting from the rooftops.

 

[Nothing1234]

I just skimmed thru it but it says nothing about the briefings(quote me if in wrong on this), only the pr stunt. I don’t see the EU accepting this. EU is Sonyland compared to UK. Folks in EU says Sony does huge marketing compared to xbox’s non-existent marketing.

If they were in favor, you would hear the clowns at ms like greenturd shouting from the rooftops.

The biggest sporting event in Europe this week.

 

[jm89]

I just skimmed thru it but it says nothing about the briefings(quote me if in wrong on this), only the pr stunt. I don’t see the EU accepting this. EU is Sonyland compared to UK. Folks in EU says Sony does huge marketing compared to xbox’s non-existent marketing.

If they were in favor, you would hear the clowns at ms like greenturd shouting from the rooftops.

Only bit about the hearing is this

It was a theatrical flourish which, apparently, he also did within the closed European Commission hearing earlier that day

So they already did this in the hearing, and this was just chest thumping to the public.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

See the area thats around the flipchart. Thats Nintendos domain.
They don't give a fuck about Sony vs. Ms.
And yet they gain from the fight by getting COD via Cloud on Switch without having to do shit.

 

[ZehDon]

Not really!

Many have suffered from COD fatigue just they have with Assassins creed games. The biggest market for COD is PlayStation and seeing how everyone outside of MS is paying full price for games, this is gonna hurt MS more than anything!

You have several studios rotations on these games and that costs! So we’re really gonna sit here and act like MS war chest is gonna keep this series alive which is the top game of this acquisition?

What if a handful of PS console owners get an Xbox for this, they’re still getting it for Pennie’s on the dollar as it’s gonna be on game pass day one right?

So as an investor, where am I seeing revenue generated in the likes this game normally does before the buyout? You clearly don’t have the market share and even being on Nintendo, how will crossplay work for this type of game compared to console and PC?

Man I just want this shit over! It’s irritating hearing about this and being a gamer and business minded about it is too much. I digress and we have no choice but to wait and see this through

Not really sure what any of this has to do with my post, but thanks for taking the time, I guess?