DenchDeckard
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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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TheGodfather07
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I want the deal blocked only because I want the entertainment of seeing era have a meltdown. Who doesn't want to see that? I haven't even played an Activision game since mw2 on 360.
I remember when PS5 was weak and would hold the generation back.. then the series s was officially revealed and we never heard that again! Series s would have no problem running current gen games at 1440p!
I remember when PS5 was weak and would hold the generation back.. then the series s was officially revealed and we never heard that again! Series s would have no problem running current gen games at 1440p!
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GHG
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I'm just sad I missed the tier list.
I don't even think you believe what you wrote here.
DeepEnigma
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Please Understandâ„¢
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Only interesting things from the following source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/micros...-approval-to-buy-activision-blizzard-a8c5372f
ChorizoPicozo
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it makes sense.
TheGodfather07
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What about when the contracts are up though? Isn't that why the CMA want structural remedies?
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jm89
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This is looking even more desperate now, if it wasn't already.
Things with the CMA must have not gone well, if we needed anymore confirmation
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jm89
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Heisenberg007
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Exactly. The game goes exclusive then. That's why it's only a 10-year deal and not a "forever" deal. And 10 years are nothing in the video game industry when a AAA title can take 5-6+ years to develop.
GHG
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That's not the only argument though, the CMA made that abundantly clear.
They are so focused on COD and Sony's stance that they can't see the forest for the trees. Amateur hour.
Thirty7ven
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How do you enforce it though? And when MS breaks their commitments does the CMA have to get dragged into it again? What if Google comes up with another streaming service, or Apple, and none of them are covered by MS's agreements? What about time wise. In ten years regulators just have to waste their time keeping tabs on MS again?
MS is doing what they feel is enough sure, but maybe what they feel is enough isn't.
MS is doing what they feel is enough sure, but maybe what they feel is enough isn't.
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jm89
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100% CMA will get dragged into it, they can hire a third party but regulators would be out of there minds to put complete trust in a third party.
TheGodfather07
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That's why behavioural remedies don't work here. Hard to enforce and Microsoft could even breach it as they have a history of in the past. Sony said this to the CMA too.
DeepEnigma
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gothmog
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I'd like to announce that I have just signed a 10 year deal for Call of Duty with Microsoft. Just in case I decide to get into the console business.
gothmog
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Geez Microsoft is shameless. Not that I thought that Atomic Heart should have been taken off GP, but it would have been nice if they had announced some due diligence on the developer and their funding sources. Instead we got crickets as far as I know.
But hey, we need this deal so let's do a feel good deal with a Ukrainian cloud company.
Embarrassing is the correct word, now the deal with Activision is being marketed as something positive for Ukraine.....
They're desperate it's clear.
Topher
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DeepEnigma
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Basically they can't offer more than the 10 years deal or the whole thing isn't worth it.
They know CMA won't approve it.
The strategy is to create mediatic pressure on the regulators.
But if they go with things as low as trying to pass the Activision deal like something good for Ukraine they have really lost it.
They think this is an american reality show.
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Pelta88
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Microsoft end game strategy seems to be abandon the "It's really about mobile, not COD" narrative and instead find a sizeable group. Any sizeable group. And promise them the clouds, literally. At this point, Microsoft is just pointing at different demographics and saying "You get Cloud/Cod too" like
Stomach turning really.
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DeepEnigma
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Painfully transparent.
GHG
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It gets better. They aren't even a Ukrainian business.
Their founder is Romanian, they were founded in Romania and they are headquartered in Romania.
It's pretty obvious what they are attempting to do here but this is really bad taste at this point.
DeepEnigma
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GHG
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#Ukraine
They will find a way to get pro BLM and LGBT groups involved next.
So desperate that it's sad really. But hey, if it works then it will perfectly sum up the world we live in.
Topher
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"Microsoft Corp. and Boosteroid on Tuesday announced a 10-year agreement to bring Xbox PC games to Boosteroid's cloud gaming platform. Boosteroid, which has its software development team in Ukraine, recently surpassed 4 million users globally and has become the largest independent cloud gaming provider in the world. The agreement will also enable Activision Blizzard PC titles to be streamed by Boosteroid customers after Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard closes."
Comes across as incredibly self-serving.
Comes across as incredibly self-serving.
ToadMan
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The numbers speak for themselves.
100% multiplat before Zeni acquisition and 100% exclusive after.
FTC and CMA have both referred to this. And they blocked the acquisition.
So, that claim is addressed and put to bed.
Was there something else?
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DeepEnigma
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Helghan
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Their LinkedIn says their headquarters are in Kiev
How is putting games on PC not multiplatform?
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Can't say 100% right now. There has been 2 Xbox & PC only games released, out of like 5 or 6 Zenimax games...
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
There is going to be a whole lot of crow eating and cope once this deal goes through. I'm already getting my gifs ready.Hating from the usual suspects in the last pages will be very funny when the deal will go through. Can't wait
Using Ukraine to tease Ms is a bit sad.
Ms helps Ukraine from the beginning with money and cyber security support, it left Russia from the beginning as company and supports Stalker 2 devs every day…c'mon…
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Topher
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Really? Who is on your list to serve up crow to? Hopefully you've bookmarked those posts where people have predicted the acquisition will fail.
GHG
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The screenshot I posted are the terms and conditions pulled directly from their website.
https://boosteroid.com/terms
And correction, the nationality of their CEO/Founder is unknown:
https://ae.linkedin.com/in/ivan-shvaichenko
Make what you will of where he conducted his higher education.
Thirty7ven
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POKEYCLYDE
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That's the fear but that's not for sure what's going to happen. There are reasons why business don't do forever contracts. There is no such contract for Minecraft and that's released multi-platform and same with it's spin off titles like Dungeons.
One of the reasons why you wouldn't make a forever deal is to re-evaluate your business strategy involving Call of Duty (this could mean making it exclusive).
Another reason would be the industry changing. If the standard platform/publisher holder cut changes, let's say to 12/88, and the contract details state a 30/70 cut as is standard currently, Microsoft would be locked in at an unfavorable rate.
Sony could change things up like they did with the PS3, making a hard to develop for architecture. The parity clause would strain things for Microsoft (they'd follow the contract, even to the detriment of their own platform), but being locked into those terms forever would be less than ideal.
If the contract disallows Activision studios from working on similar titles that are not Call of Duty. Say Treyarch wants to make a stand alone zombie game not tied to Call of Duty. A forever contract would bar them from ever doing that.
My guess is if 10 years isn't long enough, a clause to renew for 5-10 years will be included, which the CMA would deem if necessary at that time. 10 years with the option to renew for 10 would probably satisfy regulators. As Call of Duty has been around for 20 years, guaranteeing access for the next 10-20 would suffice.
DeepEnigma
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He will choose based on brand wars, not actual context and nuance of positions or posts.
The clown trap of green vs blue that MS has been marketing on their social sphere, when in reality it has been MS vs. 3 main regulation bodies.
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Azurro
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I mean, we are not professionals, we are just geeks talking online about videogames, but can't we raise the level of discourse above "neener neeneeerr!!! Now you Sony ponies ugly faces don't have call of duty!!"?
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Topher
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Interesting. Browse to google maps: https://www.google.com/maps
Search for "Boosteroid Games". I get only one result:
Not saying that is definitive proof of anything, but still.......I get your point.
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TheGodfather07
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It's funny how Microsoft are signing contracts with all these companies when it's totally irrelevant to the CMA concerns about the size of call of duty, how big it is on Playstation and Microsoft using the ip to foreclose Playstation at any point in the future. How does anything they've done address those issues? They are sidestepping the actual issues.
They want it their own way. They don't want to divest or do structural remedies because that means they don't have control of call of duty. Which is exactly why they are doing any of this. If they can't have that, they will walk away. At the moment they are doing everything they can to persuade the CMA to change their stance and accept behavioral remedies.
They want it their own way. They don't want to divest or do structural remedies because that means they don't have control of call of duty. Which is exactly why they are doing any of this. If they can't have that, they will walk away. At the moment they are doing everything they can to persuade the CMA to change their stance and accept behavioral remedies.
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DeepEnigma
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Ukrainian, Romanian,Interesting. Browse to google maps: https://www.google.com/maps
Search for "Boosteroid Games". I get only one result:
Not saying that is definitive proof of anything, but still.......I get your point.
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