Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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The only thing I'll say about the Ukraine comment is that Microsoft isn't helping them fight the war with this. Just seems a bit distasteful especially with what Ukrainians are going through right now.

Well since its the first post on page 666.

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So much salt… it is incredible. Obviously Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine and Minister of Digital Transformation of Ukraine have not clue what he is talking about but neogaf blue team is here to correct him. Sad. And ridiculous.
 
MasterCornholio said:
The only thing I'll say about the Ukraine comment is that Microsoft isn't helping them fight the war with this. Just seems a bit distasteful especially with what Ukrainians are going through right now.

Well since its the first post on page 666.

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Will we make it to 777?
 
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pasterpl said:
Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine and Minister of Digital Transformation of Ukraine feels different, but who would care. It is more important that you feel it is distasteful. How much more salt can we get in this thread?

Also
blogs.microsoft.com

Extending our vital technology support for Ukraine - Microsoft On the Issues

Today, we are announcing that Microsoft will extend technology support free of charge for Ukraine throughout calendar year 2023. This commits our company to providing additional technology aid valued at roughly $100 million, which will ensure that government agencies, critical infrastructure and...
blogs.microsoft.com blogs.microsoft.com



Those bastards from MS just capitalising on war./s
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MasterCornholio said:
I don't think its helping them fight the war in Ukraine. That's the whole point.

People don't die in forums but they do die wars. I wouldn't like it if the other two did this BTW.
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Will digress a bit but; Any news of this kind are showing people in Ukraine that there is hope, a bit of normal life still remaining (business as usual). I come from Poland, even though I live in the UK now, this war is very close to me. I work with multiple Ukraine based developers, and believe me, anything remind them about normal life, allowing to forget about the war (even just for a minute) is great thing for them.


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I will not, I am happy with any positive news from Ukraine, but 2-3 pages full of salt from blue team suggest that many cried because of this and don't know how to cope/downplay this, not for the lack of trying.
 
Re the gamers lawsuits.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23707830-23-03-14-joint-case-management-statement

Did get it from Fosspatents latest post but you can read the document without any external commentary.

- MS says they won't close before May 22nd (previously it was May 1st)
- Plaintiffs want the preliminary injunction hearing for April 12th, MS obviously believes it should be delayed till after the EC and CMA process.
- Plaintiffs discovery updates.

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Should get an update tomorrow or Friday on this case.
 
Resetera really crying about the CMA.

All signs point to Activision becoming its own company.

Microsoft buying King and Blizzard. I doubt sugar daddy MS would just drop the whole thing. I do see them buying one more publisher after this CDPR or Ubisoft perhaps.
 
Oddvintagechap said:
Resetera really crying about the CMA.

All signs point to Activision becoming its own company.

Microsoft buying King and Blizzard. I doubt sugar daddy MS would just drop the whole thing. I do see them buying one more publisher after this CDPR or Ubisoft perhaps.
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The problem with this outcome is that it's doubtful Microsoft is truly interested without controlling COD, the whole thing would not be worth 70 billions (imo it's arguable it's worth that much even with COD), also it would not be a good deal for Activision anymore, for short term profits the company agrees to get fractured and effectively destroyed as it was. They would not act in the interests of the company anymore.

But at this point it's hard to tell what's going to happen outside of the fact they don't have good chances with the CMA unless they agree to structural remedies. It's also not clear the extent of the remedies EU will ask even if they are behavioural (which is to be confirmed) and then there's the battle with the FTC.
 
Oddvintagechap said:
Resetera really crying about the CMA.

All signs point to Activision becoming its own company.

Microsoft buying King and Blizzard. I doubt sugar daddy MS would just drop the whole thing. I do see them buying one more publisher after this CDPR or Ubisoft perhaps.
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I don't know. I have my doubts Microsoft accepts any deal without Activision and Call of Duty. That is absolutely what they want out of it. More than anything else. That part of the business would give them a tremendous amount of strength in all corners of the market. Console, PC, mobile, and services.

They've already publicly declared they would not accept the deal without it. Sure, that could have been a bluff, but I doubt it. For one, such a bluff really doesn't accomplish anything. At that point, if I recall correctly, the CMA had already released its provisional findings and demanded divestment with only a small opportunity to convince them of anything less. Them divesting or having the deal dropped is pretty much what the CMA wants anyways.

Further, I felt that statement was more towards their shareholders. Publicly ensuring they're aware that $70 billion is not going to be spent if they have to give up the real prize of the deal. Giving them a heads up to prepare their moves for a very possible, some would argue likely, scenario.
 
Heisenberg007 said:
Sony already has a COD contract for the next 2-3 years, which leaves only 7 years that Microsoft is really offering for only 1 game in exchange for the entire ABK.

7 years is just one console generation.
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Not really though. Cod doesn't come out every 5 or 6 years. Ten years ago if you were playing call of Duty you were playing it on 360 or PS3, and the most recent game was Black Ops 2. There have been at least ten COD games since then.

I can understand wanting to debate a topic, but you're better than this, surely? Or did you really think COD came out every 7 years?
 
feynoob said:
This comment is going to age like a milk if this deal fails.
I was so close, yet so far.
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Hey its fine beeing wrong about stuff, as long as you can accept that and see the truth eventually :)

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Ewwwww. Them using the situation in Ukraine as a win for gamers is absolutely vile.
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I find this disturbing.
All of this is happening because MS wants to own the Call of Duty franchise - Videogames about War.
And MS is trying to use this new deal as a PR WIN with a company that is based in a country currently at War.
 
Mr Reasonable said:
Not really though. Cod doesn't come out every 5 or 6 years. Ten years ago if you were playing call of Duty you were playing it on 360 or PS3, and the most recent game was Black Ops 2. There have been at least ten COD games since then.

I can understand wanting to debate a topic, but you're better than this, surely? Or did you really think COD came out every 7 years?
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I think he meant one IP, as in just for call of duty, not just one game released.
 
Oddvintagechap said:
Resetera really crying about the CMA.

All signs point to Activision becoming its own company.

Microsoft buying King and Blizzard. I doubt sugar daddy MS would just drop the whole thing. I do see them buying one more publisher after this CDPR or Ubisoft perhaps.
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I'd prefer it the other way personally: Let Microsoft buy the mediocre FPS IP and leave the rest independent. But I guess CoD is the only thing Sony and the regulators really care about...
 
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Not really though. Cod doesn't come out every 5 or 6 years. Ten years ago if you were playing call of Duty you were playing it on 360 or PS3, and the most recent game was Black Ops 2. There have been at least ten COD games since then.

I can understand wanting to debate a topic, but you're better than this, surely? Or did you really think COD came out every 7 years?
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There may be some misunderstanding. To clarify, by "only 1 game" I meant only Call of Duty (out of the entire ABK catalog). Not that there will be only 1 COD released in the next 7 years.

I'm sure we'll see at least 4 COD in those 7 years, even if they decide to abandon the yearly cadence, which ABK is close to abandoning.

The summary of my point was that: MS is offering the multiplatform possibility of only 1 game/IP out of the entire ABK catalog for essentially only 1 console generation (roughly 7 years). While the deal may sound pretty good, in reality, that offer really isn't that great, and I can see why Sony doesn't want to sign it.
 
Heisenberg007 said:
There may be some misunderstanding. To clarify, by "only 1 game" I meant only Call of Duty (out of the entire ABK catalog). Not that there will be only 1 COD released in the next 7 years.

I'm sure we'll see at least 4 COD in those 7 years, even if they decide to abandon the yearly cadence, which ABK is close to abandoning.

The summary of my point was that: MS is offering the multiplatform possibility of only 1 game/IP out of the entire ABK catalog for essentially only 1 console generation (roughly 7 years). While the deal may sound pretty good, in reality, that offer really isn't that great, and I can see why Sony doesn't want to sign it.
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But wasn't it mostly about COD for Sony? Most of their remarks are about COD, and what Microsoft might do with it, and not really about the rest of the catalogue.
 
If people digging the internet for "evidence" for canceling someone are name in a way, how should we name those that do the same and search for evidence that Boosteroid change twitter or address and they CEO is a certain nationality.... Should we differentiate these people?
 
Cyborg said:
If this goes through the industry is doomed in 15 years. All these 10-year deals are smokes curtains so they can earn a bit of money back.
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We don't know.

In 10 years maybe sony has 90% of the market share if they keep producing the best games available.
 
I get that but the contents shouldn't matter if the parties are happy with the terms. The offers have been made and they were accepted.i doubt any of these parties who accepted them would do so if they felt like they were being screwed in some way. Once the deal is done someone dressed as MC or crash should go to the houses of the regs and teabag their cars
 
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Shadow would be my next bet but I think it's basically irrelevant in terms of actual consumer benefits cause its an unneeded deal based off Shadow's offering.

Interesting deals would be
- Luna is the only one that I think would be interesting re cloud streaming.
- any movement on Windows Server licensing costs
 
Heisenberg007 said:
There may be some misunderstanding. To clarify, by "only 1 game" I meant only Call of Duty (out of the entire ABK catalog). Not that there will be only 1 COD released in the next 7 years.

I'm sure we'll see at least 4 COD in those 7 years, even if they decide to abandon the yearly cadence, which ABK is close to abandoning.

The summary of my point was that: MS is offering the multiplatform possibility of only 1 game/IP out of the entire ABK catalog for essentially only 1 console generation (roughly 7 years). While the deal may sound pretty good, in reality, that offer really isn't that great, and I can see why Sony doesn't want to sign it.
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You know that 1 IP is almost all their output. The playstation would get every console game on this list except maybe the gaas survival game but if it's gaas it probably would anyways.

www.ign.com

Every Activision Blizzard Game in Development - IGN

From Call of Duty and Overwatch to Diablo and Warcraft, these are all the new games currently in development at Activision Blizzard.
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