adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, it's not like the studio was working on this port all year and not developing another game they put out at the end of January .. wait..
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Ghostwire tokyo on xbox series x and s VS ps5 DF
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Yeah, it's not like the studio was working on this port all year and not developing another game they put out at the end of January .. wait..
Coloress_Kafka
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5-10% worst than PS5. Ohh ok so we are legit using dick measurements style figures.
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LordOfChaos
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Controls are still floaty laggy and shitty on every platform tho
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Mr Moose
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Those damn goofs at Digital Foundry.
Seems to be around 10fps in the scene shown (and that's 13%).
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jm89
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Yeah, it's not like the studio was working on this port all year and not developing another game they put out at the end of January .. wait..
Kvally
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Looks like PS ports don't port well to Xbox.Yeah, it's not like the studio was working on this port all year and not developing another game they put out at the end of January .. wait..
The differentiating aspect here is that it is a Studio that is now a first party and it would have been logical that the XSeries version would have received special attention. That is to say, the logical thing was to expect a result like that of Deathloop which, as you say, is better in XSX.
This is increasing the feeling that MS is in a moment of total neglect with respect to what XSeries consoles is concerned. It is not understandable that MS does not worry about avoiding compromising situations and that they become even more evident after Redfall.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Nah, Deathloop runs 5 to 30 FPS better on SX compared to PS5 in different modes.
Deathloop Runs Better on Xbox Series X than the PS5, Series S has been Treated Well
Has the wait for Deathloop on Xbox Series X and S been worth it? Find out how the new versions stack up to the PS5.
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Tango are a 1 project studio and they were working on Hi-Fi Rush through 2022, this was probably farmed off to a small group. Or a very quick port.
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Just completely unacceptable.
I just don't understand what the fuck is going on over at Microsoft. There should never be any circumstance where their own 1st party title runs significantly worse on their platform vs their direct competitor. Zero excuse for this.
I just don't understand what the fuck is going on over at Microsoft. There should never be any circumstance where their own 1st party title runs significantly worse on their platform vs their direct competitor. Zero excuse for this.
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Nydius
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With shitposts like this, it's a wonder you haven't been put in the time-out corner.
You know damn well there's no excuse for this. The game had performance issues on the PS5 which got (mostly) sorted so to launch the game in a worse state on the Xbox Series, after a year of feedback from PS5 players is unacceptable and a very valid point of discussion. Especially since XSX getting worse performance despite being the more powerful system (on paper, at least) is becoming a common occurrence.
ChorizoPicozo
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does not even have a physical release.
Mr Moose
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Released day one on PC, it's not a PS5 port.
However, for example, Deathloop and Godfall are better on XSX in the same situation
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GHG
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And these guys have a cheek to ask their government to investigate why Playstation is the more popular console.
Everything they do reeks of incompetence. This is exactly why anyone who actually cares about the industry as a whole doesn't want them buying up studios/publishers. Their standards are in the gutter.
Under no circumstances should this be released like it has been.
Everything they do reeks of incompetence. This is exactly why anyone who actually cares about the industry as a whole doesn't want them buying up studios/publishers. Their standards are in the gutter.
Under no circumstances should this be released like it has been.
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Mr Moose
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What a load of bullshit.
They were working on Hi-Fi rush since 2018.
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GHG
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Damn you, Sony, for paying Xbox to degrade this Xbox game on Xbox consoles.
I'm calling my Congressman!
I'm calling my Congressman!
/s
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MasterCornholio
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I don't think Jim had anything to do with this. Unless you were just being sarcastic of course.
Knightime_X
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Wasn't this one of those games sony had a written timed exclusive deal before MS purchased Bethesda?
Sony probably paid tango gameworks to make it worse on purpose for Xbox.
If this is true, karma is coming.
Sony probably paid tango gameworks to make it worse on purpose for Xbox.
If this is true, karma is coming.
MasterCornholio
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Sony didn't pay Microsoft to make the Xbox version worse.
Luigi Mario
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Imagine saying something like this unironically.
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Katatonic
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Sneaky Sony strikes again.
SportsFan581
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They picked some worse performing areas there, but the opening level side by sides don't look that different. Seems to be some hitches in the Xbox version which they've chosen to highlight specifically. The 60fps mode is still like 99% 60fps in most of what is posted online. Unless there are a lot of people with broken frame counters, which is possible. Even the XSS is in the very high 50s in the majority of the game, but they play it out as if it is in the 40s there.
They get clicks from focusing on the 1% and the .01% while ignoring the other 99% completely. It is what it is.
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Kvally
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Ah, ok
. BTW, I enjoyed Godfall on PS5 when it came out. It was a fun game IMO.
GHG
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You know what, it's not even worth it.
If that's genuinely how you think, you deserve this version of the game.
Killer8
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5ft 6 is also about 9% shorter than 6ft and yet we all know how that goes.
Knightime_X
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Thirty7ven
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Lemme just add how hilarious it is that Alex is clearly taking this way too hard. The other day he was crying on B3D about devs not spending time with XSX versions and now it's a first party game releasing a year later.
If nothing else Tango should be praised for that alone.
If nothing else Tango should be praised for that alone.
Mr Moose
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The person you linked was banned for faking fps readings and being full of shit in the past, multiple times. They use trdrop, wouldn't surprise me if most of these channels do.
GitHub - cirquit/trdrop: trdrop - a raw video analysis program
trdrop - a raw video analysis program. Contribute to cirquit/trdrop development by creating an account on GitHub.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Pitched 2017, began proto-typing in 2018, not clear on when production was in full way but Tango is a ~100 employee studio so it's a safe bet they were mostly focused on putting out Ghostwire first.
Of all the posts, calling mine a shitpost including the ones made by folks who liked your message, now that's something
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A Most Virtuous Cat
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Respecc for Cerny.
bender
What time is it?
MasterCornholio
Member
Reading through some comments. There could be many reasons why this happened. But I honestly don't believe that Sony paid Microsoft to do this. That's just crazy.
It could be possible the devs ran into some issues on Xbox. What those issues are I'm not really sure. Anyways this can always improve in the future and I won't be surprised if it does.
It could be possible the devs ran into some issues on Xbox. What those issues are I'm not really sure. Anyways this can always improve in the future and I won't be surprised if it does.
bender
What time is it?
That almost sounds like they were working on multiple projects at the same time.
Mr Moose
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So not a 1 project studio?
The worrying thing about situations like this for XSeries users is the message... If MS itself doesn't care that its firstparty studies optimize for its console... How are they going to ask third parties to do it?
I don't know if they realize the effects that situations like this can cause. Parts of the basis that PS5 is going to be the base development platform on many occasions and also the priority version for the Thirds as it is the platform with the most users. Cases like this only make the situation worse with regard to the optimization of the XSeries versions.
I don't know if they realize the effects that situations like this can cause. Parts of the basis that PS5 is going to be the base development platform on many occasions and also the priority version for the Thirds as it is the platform with the most users. Cases like this only make the situation worse with regard to the optimization of the XSeries versions.
SportsFan581
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The person you linked was banned for faking fps readings and being full of shit in the past, multiple times. They use trdrop, wouldn't surprise me if most of these channels do.
GitHub - cirquit/trdrop: trdrop - a raw video analysis program
trdrop - a raw video analysis program. Contribute to cirquit/trdrop development by creating an account on GitHub.
Almost every review shows the majority of the game being locked at 60 on XSX and 50ish for the XSS. There are performance dips, but the majority is much higher. If you just focus on the bad areas you can create any narrative you want. As is always the case. Quick camera pans definitely cause the XSS to struggle though.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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WTF happened? A whole extra year for Xbox and somehow it ends up performing worst? Did Tango just not care?
Or is it something with the hardware? GDK? Forced parity between the X and S? Something is wrong and needs to be talked about.
Or is it something with the hardware? GDK? Forced parity between the X and S? Something is wrong and needs to be talked about.
bender
What time is it?
Tango's track record is pretty spotty, Hi Fi Rush aside.
Mr Moose
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Microsoft Wants Bethesda Games 'First or Better or Best' on Xbox - IGN
Microsoft says that Bethesda games coming to cross-platform will be 'first or better or best' on an Xbox console or platform.
It's a fun game though, if you have a VRR TV play it.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
"We made a very small prototype with like 2 people"
Yes if you want to count that as a 2 project studio, don't let me stop you
Spitfire098
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It be your own studios bringing you down 
SportsFan581
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Microsoft Wants Bethesda Games 'First or Better or Best' on Xbox - IGN
Microsoft says that Bethesda games coming to cross-platform will be 'first or better or best' on an Xbox console or platform.www.ign.com
Well, I mean, we are likely looking at the last PS5/XSX comparison on these Bethesda games anyway.
The Xbox version has to be first and best over what the PS5 is getting in that scenario.
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DarkMage619
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I assume the Spider's Thread update took time to develop. That update was on PlayStation as well so it was hardly a year of working solely on the Xbox version of the game. Interestingly enough this could have been exclusive Xbox content yet still PlayStation was supported.