nial
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Now I want MS to buy Activision, Ubisoft and Electronic Arts!
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Ghostwire tokyo on xbox series x and s VS ps5 DF
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MatrixReloaded101
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Series X is looking like a straight up scam as more time passes.... I really should have just upgraded my PC.
MasterCornholio
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You do know Sony had a deal with this game before Microsoft bought them.
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Al Pachinko, Konami President
Mr Moose
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"We made a very small prototype with like 2 people"
Yes if you want to count that as a 2 project studio, don't let me stop you
Games developed
| Year | Title | Platform(s) | Publisher(s) |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2014 | The Evil Within | PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Windows, Xbox 360, Xbox One | Bethesda Softworks |
| 2017 | The Evil Within 2 | PlayStation 4, Windows, Xbox One | |
| 2022 | Ghostwire: Tokyo | PlayStation 5, Windows, Xbox Series X/S | |
| Hero Dice | Android, iOS | ZeniMax Asia | |
| 2023 | Hi-Fi Rush | Windows, Xbox Series X/S | Bethesda Softworks |
Both was launch window games on PS5 so that can be factored in
DenchDeckard
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roosnam1980
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jm89
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When your fanbase is too busy blaming the competition, why even deliver on your promises when you can get away with it?[/URL][/URL]
It's a fun game though, if you have a VRR TV play it.
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DarkMage619
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So perhaps this isn't a simple cut and dry matter of MS not getting proper support from a first party studio then. This game was never a ground up internally developed Xbox game. The year gap was not spent just working on the Xbox version seeing how there was additional content and future PlayStation updates as well to work on.
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SkyHighTrees
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its funny the denial
GHG
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Are you familiar with the contract that Sony had with Bethesda for this game?
Because if it's anything like the one that leaked from Capcom then it would stipulate that any DLC also needs to come to the playstation version of the game:
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/202...ce_parity_in_resident_evil_village_on_ps5_ps4
But then you probably already knew that and the reality is that you'd rather attempt to take this thread off on a tangent in order to deflect from the issue at hand.
Do you actually care to comment on what's happening to the Xbox versions of your games from Microsoft's first party studios? Or is that beyond your mandate as a PR representative of the company?
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Deathloop released almost a year after the PS5 release and Gosthwire Tokyo released only 4 months after Deathloop.... I don't think it's a factor. Simply the optimization work in XSX was better than this time.
MasterCornholio
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No I meant your suggesting that Microsoft allowed the game to have that content when it could have been part of the deal with Sony. The same developer didn't release HiFi Rush on the PS5 for example.
As for why this happened you should ask why they need more time to fully take advantage of the XSXs capabilites.
Heisenberg007
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nial
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lol, what the fuck is this?
it apparently only lasted 5 months
https://www.gematsu.com/2022/06/hero-dice-to-end-service-on-august-31-in-japan
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Topher
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GHG
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It's a first party product landing on the hardware they manufacture and sell.
No excuses.
Giallo Corsa
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Tango just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Japan (Sony) where you can become successful by doing a bad console port. If you screw someone over in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is to go to court.
What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Ghostwire Tokyo on the XSX, nor will they purchase any of Tango's and Bethesda's games. This is YUUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Tango has alienated an entire market with this move.
Tango, publicly apologize and patch Ghostwire Tokyo on the XSX or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Horseganador
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PS5 has better performance, better raytracing, better shadows and even more resolution, even coming out a year earlier, seriously I don't know what's going on in MS but it seems they don't care about anything, they didn't even release it physically when it is on PS5.
And of course, DF once again wondering what's going on while Alex is about to cry, Cerny explained everything on the Road to PS5 but they didn't want to listen to it and they only questioned it.
And of course, DF once again wondering what's going on while Alex is about to cry, Cerny explained everything on the Road to PS5 but they didn't want to listen to it and they only questioned it.
Daneel Elijah
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You have made that claim a few times in this thread. I was thinking that it was your personal experience, then I saw that you used a review. Now " almost every review"? Are you speaking of metacritic rewiews or of people specifically looking at this game performance? I admit that DF often focus on the worse moment of games but not to the point of lying or misleading that much like you have been insinuating. If there is a new youtuber like DF with the same level of quality I would like to learn of them please.
True. And I hope that it will get patched. But in older generations and until recently when games get different dates in concurrent consoles there has to be something to give you interest in trying something that was already out. So we got game for the year edition, DLC coming out and things like that. Microsoft had a policy that made it ( don't know when it began and if it is still in vigor) that games had to be date and feature parity.
It is not bad per se. Just something that should have been taken care of. 1 year is a long time for a port for a console that should be equal/ superior in some respect. The fact that the Series S has no ray tracing is another point of contention.I didn't played the PS5 version so no personal opinion on the game here. DaGwaphics does it seems. Maybe if he is right DF pushed it a little too far? The game is playable after all. No glaring problems and that is what matters.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You think the studio was stretched thin, that could be the cause of the lesser port here ? If so, then that's pretty much the same thing I'm saying as well.
Because we've already seen the other 1 year later Zenimax port running notably better on Xbox, in a case where that studio was also not developing another project (Lyon is not making Redfall).
Heisenberg007
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Still developed at a time when devs are just getting used to the hardware
nial
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It's ALWAYS someone's else fault and not Microsoft's.
SportsFan581
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Dude, I just typed "Ghostwire Tokyo XSX" and "Ghostwire Tokyo XSS" into YT. Tons of people on there posting footage, many with frame counters. They aren't doing performance comparisons, just playing the game. People that just seem to be playing in a normal manner are 50ish in performance mode on XSS, players that move the camera an alarming amount (there was one guy that practically made me nauseous with how much he moved the camera) are lower - congested battles struggle. The 99th percentile isn't that bad here at all. Should it have been better, probably. Is it an unplayable port or something you are going to complain about if you aren't playing the game side-by-side with a PS5 in the same room, unlikely.
I haven't played it myself yet, and I don't play with a framerate counter on (I'm just using an everyday office PC monitor, so, it doesn't have that capability anyway). I just started the AoE2 campaign, I might do this one next the graphics are nice and the side quests sound interesting.
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Mr Moose
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You said they were a 1 project studio, turns out they were 3 projects (while doing the PS5/PC version).
Nothing1234
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What is going on at Bethesda?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This is how this comment reads like
The original gif was better, it had a certain .. open worldness ... to it
No, I still think they're a 1 project studio cause they're a ~100 people workforce at best. That doesn't mean a fingers worth count of people can't be prototyping something else at the same time without the bulk of the resources devoted to it. Horizon FW was 'in development' since 2011 but no one really thinks it was getting active development 2 years before Killzone Shadowfall even came out.
SplunkyMunkey
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They probably gimped there own version deliberately to make a case for Activision buyout to state that there studios are nowhere as good as Sony's gaming studios
phaedrus
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With the tools?
Mr Moose
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So what you are saying is it only affected the Xbox version... Even though they were making 3 games when doing the PC/PS5 version? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.The original gif was better, it had a certain .. open worldness ... to it
No, I still think they're a 1 project studio cause they're a ~100 people workforce at best. That doesn't mean a fingers worth count of people can't be prototyping something else at the same time without the bulk of the resources devoted to it. Horizon FW was 'in development' since 2011 but no one really thinks it was getting active development 2 years before Killzone Shadowfall even came out.
Iced Arcade
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*Xbox takes to CMA/FTC as receipt of proof to squash another Sony complaint*
"luuuuk see!"
"luuuuk see!"
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Sleepwalker
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The PC and PS5 versions were already out for a year, I don't know why a quick port to Xbox will effect those already released versions
I'm not exactly getting your implication here lol, I'm saying that clearly this is a quick or rushed port job to Xbox, I think the results speak for themselves.
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solidus12
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A rising tide lifts all boats, right Cerny?
Jimmyisback
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Microsoft: "forward the results to the CMA"
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
DenchDeckard
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ZoukGalaxy
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At this point, it requires some talent to make things worse on a specs wise powerful console ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
People blaming Jim for this: how deep are you in copium ?
That "sabordage complot theory on purpose" by Tango is wild...
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Topher
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The PC and PS5 versions were already out for a year, I don't know why a quick port to Xbox will effect those already released versions
I'm not exactly getting your implication here lol, I'm saying that clearly this is a quick or rushed port job to Xbox, I think the results speak for themselves.
Either way, the bottom line here is that Xbox fans deserve better from Microsoft first party.