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Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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Three

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The cope on Twitter is amazing. People somehow think this is due to Sony's massive, corrupt influence.
The Big Bad company 1/20th the size of MS used its massive influence to block a poor trillion-dollar tech company from competing. Yeah that's what happened

Florian is having a meltdown about the CMA being out of control





Where did all that faith in the CMA and process go when they made a decision he liked?
 
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dotnotbot

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youtube the evil is defeated GIF
 

Elios83

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So Microsoft will appeal now and that appeal will be reviewed by CMA in the end and they still have final word? Is that right?
CAT will decide if the appeal request has any merit.
And that happens only if procedural mistakes and irrationality over evidence appear.
If not the appeal is quickly dismissed.
If CAT finds there were some severe flaws they will ask CMA to do it again basically.

Chances are really low, Microsoft is risking to see their breakup fees increasing and waiting an other year hands tied for the same outcome.
They should execute on a different strategy and find other feasible targets imo.
 
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diffusionx

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I guess there is a chance that Microsoft does give up eventually. I'm still surprised at how quickly Nvidia gave up on the ARM takeover. At the time it seemed like they were dead set on the acquisition no matter what.
it's because the appeals are expensive, take a long time, and have a low rate of success. It just makes more sense to deal with certainty and the situation as it is then trying to fight this massive uphill battle.

All these "we will appeal" stuff coming out 5 minutes after is purely emotional, soon the lawyers and managers will take a look at it and give them the honest assessment of the situation. i really would be surprised if MS keeps dragging this out in the vain hopes of pushing this deal through. In fact I think there's a more likely outcome which is that Phil Spencer in the next few months "decides to spend more time with his family."
 
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Yoboman

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CAT will decide if the appeal request has any merit.
And that happens only if procedural mistakes and irrationality over evidence appear.
If not the appeal is quickly dismissed.
If CAT finds there were some severe flaws they will ask CMA to do it again basically.

Chances are really low, Microsoft is risking to see their breakup fees increasing and waiting an other year hands tied for the same outcome.
They should execute on a different strategy and find other feasible targets imo.
CMA distracted Microsoft with the console argument and got em with the cloud argument
 

GHG

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it's because the appeals are expensive, take a long time, and have a low rate of success. It just makes more sense to deal with certainty and the situation as it is then trying to fight this massive uphill battle.

All these "we will appeal" stuff coming out 5 minutes after is purely emotional, soon the lawyers and managers will take a look at it and give them the honest assessment of the situation. i really would be surprised if MS keeps dragging this out in the vain hopes of pushing this deal through. In fact I think there's a more likely outcome which is that Phil Spencer in the next few months "decides to spend more time with his family."

They can't do anything but say they will appeal at this stage due to legally binding commitments made to Activision regarding the regulatory process.
 
Blocked over cloud gaming innovation concerns...

Without MS controlling it, this will only accelerate.

Get ready to give up on your consoles, beefy pcs, strap up for cloud only future, brought to you by Apple/Google.
 
I was just thinking, I think the existing Sony-Activision CoD marketing deal ends next year? What I would give to be a fly on the wall behind the closed doors when they have to negotiate the next deal, especially after things like this were said in public



Imagine publicly bragging about how you were screwing Sony and then next year you need to negotiate with them again 🤣
 

jm89

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CMA was smart to switch over to the cloud argument and drop the console argument.
Yup. One hell of a judo move.

There was an article from equity report where a lawyer was saying they where positioning themselves to prevent a successful sony appeal to CAT.

Well everything seems like CMA have done that to stop a successful appeal from Microsoft.
 
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DrFigs

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CMA was smart to switch over to the cloud argument and drop the console argument.
The whole thing about them making simple math mistakes and focusing on whether Microsoft could afford to make COD exclusive (as if they weren't a 2 trillion dollar company). I feel like the way they approached the console argument was problematic from the start, even though there really is a competition issue there. I mean cloud gaming being the reason to block this seems insane to me, but they also did bring up price increases on gamepass at least.
 
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Yoboman

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it's because the appeals are expensive, take a long time, and have a low rate of success. It just makes more sense to deal with certainty and the situation as it is then trying to fight this massive uphill battle.

All these "we will appeal" stuff coming out 5 minutes after is purely emotional, soon the lawyers and managers will take a look at it and give them the honest assessment of the situation. i really would be surprised if MS keeps dragging this out in the vain hopes of pushing this deal through. In fact I think there's a more likely outcome which is that Phil Spencer in the next few months "decides to spend more time with his family."
All it is right now is trying to maintain the stock from plummeting too much
 
We need more of the worlds largest companies getting BRFO’d on any expansion they try to do. Fuck it. Block apple, Microsoft, and Amazon from buying anything.

That's actually not a sound way to look at business though. Traditionally almost all innovation comes from the behemoths, with the smaller companies joining markets once a profitable model/product has been landed on. Mom and Pops don't have the R&D dollars to do much in most areas.
 

skit_data

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Wow, just when it seemed pretty much a done deal CMA blocks it.
Can’t say I’m super-surprised tbh, MS have focused quite a lot on the console market aspect but I never really got the sense they 100% adressed the cloud market aspect of the deal.
 

dotnotbot

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Well, this makes for soggy cornflakes doesn't it.

LOL at a block over cloud gaming. leave it to the Brits. MS should have slipped Putin some money, a couple errant nukes and they would have been too distracted to bother with this.

Nice, I don't think we've had nuke threats here yet.
 

Bojanglez

The Amiga Brotherhood
I can see why MS themselves are pissed, I can understand why ABK employees (and shareholders) are pissed. But honestly I can't see why any reasonable gamer would be particularly upset? Whatever platforms you have, this decision (if upheld) will mean you still have the same access to ABK games that you did previously.
 

laynelane

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Well, this makes for soggy cornflakes doesn't it.

LOL at a block over cloud gaming. leave it to the Brits. MS should have slipped Putin some money, a couple errant nukes and they would have been too distracted to bother with this.

Possibly weapons of mass destruction might be a bit much in this scenario.
 
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