Forza Motorsport (XSX) vs Gran Turismo 7 (PS5) Graphics Comparison (Up: Video in OP replaced as IGN one was not fit for purpose)
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LostDonkey
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I have 500+ hours in GT7 on PS5.
I know what it looks like, every condition, every track.
Forza definitely is a step above in this video.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Yup.
sendit
Member
Limiting the PC version to 60 FPS so they can play nicely with consoles is a horrible "creative decision".No 120fps or VR??
Nobody cares, but thanks for contributing.
LostDonkey
Member
Just watched Super GTs review and his footage looks amazing, I think there has been some problems with capture for some people because it's definitely not washed out.
Snake29
Banned
It didn't look great on his review. Everything was blown in your face. The lighting was so weird and showed how less detailed/sharp everything is.
The rain, spray and wet surface do look quit a bit too much and makes the game look more arcady and less realistic. This game has to much trackside flashing colours what alone irritates me to watch.
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Blood Borne
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Is it just me but I couldn't see gear shift change animation in Forza?
Freelance Yakuza
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It's especially funny because many posters said they liked the more 'grounded/realistic' visuals from Forza, lmaoThe wars not even being fought fairly lmao...
GHG
Member
I said nothing about Gran Turismo in the post you quoted. Also Forza looks nothing like the video you've just posted thanks to the issues that have now been acknowledged by the devs.
Quit your pathetic trolling you sad little alt.
Freelance Yakuza
Member
That is why I made a joke about how the visuals of Forza remind me of the way people with depression perceive colors (there are actually studies on this, people report seeing the world in more gray/dull tones) in contrast to the colors someone perceives right after an orgasm (again, there are studies on this, people report seeing more intense colors).
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This scene where the track is completely dark for a second is very impressive to me.
sendit
Member
bro...that looks so unrealisticThis scene where the track is completely dark for a second is very impressive to me.
Insane Metal
Member
In that track the car seems to be floating.This scene where the track is completely dark for a second is very impressive to me.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
great. thanks for ruining it. cant unsee.
Isnt RTAO supposed to help ground the objects? Whats going on here?
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graywolf323
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I'm sure he's glad to have you backing him upAre you saying he's outnumbered by shills on the other camp?
you all really should work on your scheduling to make sure your shifts sync up better in the future
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The PC version is not limited to 60. You can run it any frame rate, it only gets locked in cross-device MP races.
Insane Metal
Member
And that's what I've been saying, no matter how much tech you put into it. PD are magicians when it comes to lighting.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Deleted member 848825
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Nah, there's something not right in any of the videos I've seen, and I've watched a lot including the ones you've recommended. The light balance isn't right. It looks similar to when you have gamma set too high. My only reservation is, I'd like to see a proper full HDR capture rather than SDR. But its not looking correct at this moment in time.
Snake29
Banned
That was the first thing I noticed.
At what resolution was this captures? Like i said before, cars, lighting trackside lighting, details...it's all very inconsistent.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's especially funny because you can see where some posters said "send reply" without reading the later posts first.
Y'all aren't doing a good job on-boarding the late arrivals, see above. tsk tsk.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
RTAO is doing its job here. Wonder if its a bug.
Mr Moose
Member
Weird shadows under the car, wheel looks like it's floating.This scene where the track is completely dark for a second is very impressive to me.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
They did that because the game literally runs faster laps for people with high refresh rate monitors and instead of fixing their game they just put limits on PC players
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Yup its a bug, in night time it doesn't work. You could see it also in Turn10 own breakdown video.
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Deleted member 848825
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Its the HDR that still blows me away with GT7. Subtle, but superb. Very immersive. Just how I like it.
Bumblebeetuna
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Assuming there will even be one.
By the time PD puts the next one out it could very well be PS5 and 6.
Sleepwalker
Member
Absolute shambolic decision making.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Can someone more techinically minded explain to me why the interiors are pitch black here? the dashboard has proper light bounce, but everything inside has no global illumination whatsoever. i drive around during the day and its not pitch black in my car. i thought this game was supposed to have realtime GI?
There is another scene where the dashboard reflects on the screen as you drive under street lamps and its fantastic. but then you see this. I wonder if they need RTGI to fix this but i literally thought realtime GI was suppose to handle global illumination like this.
There is another scene where the dashboard reflects on the screen as you drive under street lamps and its fantastic. but then you see this. I wonder if they need RTGI to fix this but i literally thought realtime GI was suppose to handle global illumination like this.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
All new built from the ground up
djjinx2
Member
Its an Xbox screenshot, no idea of res lol, SX is set to 60fps RT ONThat was the first thing I noticed.
At what resolution was this captures? Like i said before, cars, lighting trackside lighting, details...it's all very inconsistent.
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Mr Moose
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Can someone more techinically minded explain to me why the interiors are pitch black here? the dashboard has proper light bounce, but everything inside has no global illumination whatsoever. i drive around during the day and its not pitch black in my car. i thought this game was supposed to have realtime GI?
There is another scene where the dashboard reflects on the screen as you drive under street lamps and its fantastic. but then you see this. I wonder if they need RTGI to fix this but i literally thought realtime GI was suppose to handle global illumination like this.
They might've tried to correct the washed out look when making the video and messed it up.
What's going on with the left side of that image? Is it meant to look blocky?
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
nah, light bounce is fine in this gif. it illuminates the interiors as you under the lamps. i really like the reflections of the dashboard popping up on the windscreen. not sure if its ray traced reflections because those are limited to cars reflecting on cars, but its pretty cool.
They might've tried to correct the washed out look when making the video and messed it up.
What's going on with the left side of that image? Is it meant to look blocky?
freefornow
Member
Does anyone have a link to the original video? The vid in the op is "unavailable" and marked as private.
djjinx2
Member
Reminds me of Driveclub, certain scenarios it looks amazing, other lighting can be a bit meh. Audio via decent headset with Atmos is top notch though!
As suggested,the car is floating. There's nothing wrong with Forza,the dev team snuck in a few hover cars to spice the game up.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
No one hates anything. They're looking at screenshots and critiquing (the same shit that happens to most games here).
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Elysium44
Banned
nah, light bounce is fine in this gif. it illuminates the interiors as you under the lamps. i really like the reflections of the dashboard popping up on the windscreen. not sure if its ray traced reflections because those are limited to cars reflecting on cars, but its pretty cool.
The previous Forza games had that so it doesn't need RT to do it. Has been criticised for being too much on FM games before, the windscreen is like a mirror of the car's interior. Turn 10 do like to exaggerate their effects rather than just making them realistic. On PC, you could disable the reflections altogether in Horizon games which is much better. When driving in real life you see through the windscreen and aren't constantly looking at distracting reflections.
GHG
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Codeblew
Member
I want to see their physics calculation that takes FPS into account. It should be a simple velocity vector using the difference in time between the last render start time and the current render start time. Low fps, the vector is longer. High fps, the vector is shorter. When you work the math out, both high and low fps should go at the same speed.
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HeWhoWalks
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So games of similar style/purpose aren't allowed to be compared?Both games look great. You know that because people have to take very cherry picked shots to do the whole "you see!!! You see!!"
It's sad to see ign feed the war and people to partake in it. Both games look amazing in their differences
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I love this effect. I remember posting gifs of the GT7 trailers that go overboard with interiors reflecting all over the cars.
sadly, ingame doesnt look as good.
Really hope PD can get there with GT8 on a PS5 only game.