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[Bojji]

Didn't the 3090 also ship the same year :\

Yep, same thing with with Nvidia hardware in 2013, it was much faster than PS4 GPU.

Consoles can't launch with top of the line GPU due to cost and power draw but we can assume almost for sure that 2027 console will be faster than top 2022 GPU.

 

[Gaiff]

We will be on rdna 7 by then why is this extreme to think especially for a $599 msrp. This would be like the ps5 being worse than the 980 ti in terms of equivalence

No.

2023: RDNA 3 / RTX 40
2025: RDNA 4 / RTX 50
2027: RDNA 6 / RTX 60 / PS6
2029: RDNA 7 / RTX 70

The 980 Ti was 3 generations removed from being the top consumer-grade chip when the PS5 was released. The 6080/6090 will still be the top chips when the PS6 releases. There is 0 chance the PS6 matches the current GeForce high-end when it comes out when the PS5 was still getting easily outperform by the previous flagship (2080 Ti) and was on the rasterization level of the one two generations before (1080 Ti) albeit with a more advanced feature set.

Even if the PS6 were to come out in late 2028, RDNA 6 and the RTX 60 series would only be a year old by then. Claiming the PS6 will match a 6080/6090 is the equivalent of saying the PS5 Pro will match a 4080/4090 which isn't happening. The Ampere generation (3090/3090 Ti) will be to the PS6 what the 980 Ti was to the PS5, not the 6090. Ampere will be 3 generations old by the time the PS6 is out.

You guys keep counting in years which doesn't even work. New GPU architectures don't come out every year like they did in 2012. They take 2 years and cycles might even get longer by 2027/28.

 

[Bernardougf]

Discussing if a 2028 console can beat a 2022 GPU ... how I wish this market could break free off this 500 dollar console pettiness and offer ONE goddaman premium choice from the get go. Meanwhile apple is smiling with their 1.000 plus dollars phones they can sell every year to the exactly same public.

 

[playsaves3]

No.

2023: RDNA 3 / RTX 40
2025: RDNA 4 / RTX 50
2027: RDNA 6 / RTX 60 / PS6
2029: RDNA 7 / RTX 70

The 980 Ti was 3 generations removed from being the top consumer-grade chip when the PS5 was released. The 6080/6090 will still be the top chips when the PS6 releases. There is 0 chance the PS6 matches the current GeForce high-end when it comes out when the PS5 was still getting easily outperform by the previous flagship (2080 Ti) and was on the rasterization level of the one two generations before (1080 Ti) albeit with a more advanced feature set.

Even if the PS6 were to come out in late 2028, RDNA 6 and the RTX 60 series would only be a year old by then. Claiming the PS6 will match a 6080/6090 is the equivalent of saying the PS5 Pro will match a 4080/4090 which isn't happening. The Ampere generation (3090/3090 Ti) will be to the PS6 what the 980 Ti was to the PS5, not the 6090. Ampere will be 3 generations old by the time the PS6 is out.

You guys keep counting in years which doesn't even work. New GPU architectures don't come out every year like they did in 2012. They take 2 years and cycles might even get longer by 2027/28.

ps6 isnt coming till at least 2028 (and 2029 wouldnt shock me) and your entire release schedule is wrong rdna 3 came out in 2022 (is your memory this bad) 4 is coming out in 2024 i expect 6 in 2026 (though 2027 isnt impossible) so 8 should be 2028-2029

 

[Randall365]

It will be all 8k and UHDR then - raytracing is something no member of the public cares about.

 

[Schmendrick]

It will be all 8k and UHDR then - raytracing is something no member of the public cares about.

You could've just said that you have no idea how CGI in general works.

 

[TheRedRiders]

I think we need to be careful about comparing architectures across different platforms i.e PS6 will have 4090 levels of RT

We don't know AMD's roadmap, or how RT technology will evolve over the next 3-4 years - there's already new and exciting technologies beyond RT, like AI and Neural up sampling (especially for textures).

They won't design a PS6 saying "let's hit 4090 levels of RT", instead they'll say "what kind of hardware performance and feature set do we need so that developers can comfortably target path tracing at XX FPS across all their projects".

Maybe they won't even target path tracing but instead full multi-bounce RTGI with shadows, occlusions and reflections. Hardly a difference anyway.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Expecting $599 and this time it won't be a shocker. People were essentially paying $599 or even more for the PS5 for the first year or so.

Coupled with inflation and the tech in the box I don't really see how they could sell it for $499 without taking a huge loss.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Discussing if a 2028 console can beat a 2022 GPU ... how I wish this market could break free off this 500 dollar console pettiness and offer ONE goddaman premium choice from the get go. Meanwhile apple is smiling with their 1.000 plus dollars phones they can sell every year to the exactly same public.

Paying that much just for the box and then asking consumers to pay for subscriptions and by then probably $80 for a game would fail to get mass adoption like they want. I think the upper limit for a new console is about $649 for the first 1-2 years. Based of how much the PS5 sold with the scalper mark up.

 

[Aaron Olive]

As long as they are using AMD hardware they are handcuffed to their bad tech. Look at how long FSR has been around and how terrible it still is. Look at how bad their newest GPUs perform in raytracing. They're getting left in the dust. Look at AW2 and Cyberpunk (w / pathtracing) on a 4090.

FSR game at 17 fps on ps5:

DLSS 3 game at 100+ fps on a 4090

AMD simply can't hack it. They stink.

1. You are making yourself look stupid by comparing a $1700 dollar graphics card to a all in one box!

2. Sony and Microsoft can use their own upscaling technology on a game by game basis and implement dedicated raytracing and upscaler hardware in addition to the feature set that AMD provides.

3. Nvidia has a long documented history of not liking to negotiate on pricing or fabrication with their greedy price gouging asses.

 

[Magic Carpet]

It will be a handheld with a TV dock.