Phil Spencer: announcement this week

Ass of Can Whooping said:
I've decided you'll be one of the few lucky survivors who will entertain me post-extermination
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He waited until he could latch on to some form of hopium to post about this topic.

You think he'll be present if Xbox announce they are following through on most of the rumours? Not a chance.
 
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TheRedRiders said:

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This week xbox podcasts have been

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MilkyJoe said:
Earth?
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Just because it's shit, doesn't mean that it wasn't supposed to be the game of the generation for xbros before it came out.

Same with Forza. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, before these were released they were going to end playstation as we know it and bring about the rebirth of xbox.
 
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GHG said:
He waited until he could latch on to some form of hopium to post about this topic.

You think he'll be present if Xbox announce they are following through on most of the rumours? Not a chance.
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:messenger_grinning_smiling: I assumed the length of time you've been here you might be an adult

I posted a couple of links that suggested the announce will be multiplat on acquisitions, i debate that this in my opnion, is the most likley turn of events and you've had to run to your chest for your blue musket, fife and drum...

what a weapon
 
FunkMiller said:
It's not really. They've obviously been caught on the hop by these leaks, and need time to put the messaging together in a way that won't alienate the entire audience.

It'll probably alienate the entire audience anyway, but they'll try their hardest to sweeten the pill. In major corpos this kind of thing takes time, as there are many voices who want input into it.
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They are preparing the usual Phils bullshit .. the leaks came from somewhere because it was too much widespred in the xbox insider community.. now they will putout the fire with a half truth that dont deny the rumors but dont confirm either.. something the fans can pretend to accept .. in the end little by little all the rumors will become truth as always happens when something this big leaks from so many fronts "connected".

Having to wait one freaking weak to demiss one absurd rumor tells all you need to know about this ... they post shit everyday on Twitter about fking nothing.. so one twitter saying "LoL bullshit, Hallo and gears xbox forever" takes about 20 sec and solves everything

If you can take time to post one picture unboxing Persona 3 you can take the same time to post one simple Halo game picture with "Only On Xbox".

OR they are (as some have suggested) doing the worlds dumbest marketing move to come out as heros next week to the same usual (ever shrinking) fanbase adding absolutely nothing to their crescent irrelevance problem
 
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FunkMiller said:
It's not really. They've obviously been caught on the hop by these leaks, and need time to put the messaging together in a way that won't alienate the entire audience.

It'll probably alienate the entire audience anyway, but they'll try their hardest to sweeten the pill. In major corpos this kind of thing takes time, as there are many voices who want input into it.
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Agreed. I think they planned a later date announcement and the leaks forced them into creating a video with smiling developers playing Switch and PS5 games in their safe spaces.

I also don't understand what the big fuss is, Switch has been getting MS content for a long time, and PS5 also has Minecraft games, no?
 
The delay to next week and the high level secrecy to announce has had me thinking. I wouldn't bet against a Windows 12 announcement with the new Vision for Xbox next week.

Through Microsoft messing things up, they like to release a new version of Windows to clean the slate, and have everyone shift their attention to all the possible ways a new version of Windows is likely to cause them headaches and more work, and obviously new Windows versions print Microsoft money and give added control over OEMs.

Unlike 3, 5, 7's or numbers ending in zero or 8's that have a strength, triangle, pentagon, heptagon or infinity association, 11 is so meh, that replacing it with a stronger longevity of a Windows 12 (12 hours, 12 months) feels inevitable to me.
 
MilkyJoe said:
I think you have the wrong end of the stick, porting all games would tank hardware sales. The announcement will imo be a back peddle on exclusivity of 3rd party acquisitions
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I agree it'll tank hardware sales, and I believe Xbox is fully prepared for that. It's also worth recalling that they are projecting a -40% decline in hardware sales this quarter.
 
Heisenberg007 said:
I agree it'll tank hardware sales, and I believe Xbox is fully prepared for that. It's also worth recalling that they are projecting a -40% decline in hardware sales this quarter.
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We just had Christmas haha

I'm sticking with my prediction, the acquisitions will stay multiplat, that'll be the announcement
 
PaintTinJr said:
The delay to next week and the high level secrecy to announce has had me thinking. I wouldn't bet against a Windows 12 announcement with the new Vision for Xbox next week.

Through Microsoft messing things up, they like to release a new version of Windows to clean the slate, and have everyone shift their attention to all the possible ways a new version of Windows is likely to cause them headaches and more work, and obviously new Windows versions print Microsoft money and give added control over OEMs.

Unlike 3, 5, 7's or numbers ending in zero or 8's that have a strength, triangle, pentagon, heptagon or infinity association, 11 is so meh, that replacing it with a stronger longevity of a Windows 12 (12 hours, 12 months) feels inevitable to me.
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Boy do I have some bad news if you think Windows 12 will be a massive overhaul of Windows. Signs point to it essentially being a glorified service pack for 11 lol
 
LordCBH said:
Boy do I have some bad news if you think Windows 12 will be a massive overhaul of Windows. Signs point to it essentially being a glorified service pack for 11 lol
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Oh, I didn't say it would be an overhaul, but when has Microsoft ever needed to re-write Windows to completely scare the crap out of everyone from them breaking existing solutions?

My prediction is that Windows 12 will have Minecraft built-in to the operating system like it is the new Minesweeper and Solitaire :)
 
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MilkyJoe said:
:messenger_grinning_smiling: I assumed the length of time you've been here you might be an adult

I posted a couple of links that suggested the announce will be multiplat on acquisitions, i debate that this in my opnion, is the most likley turn of events and you've had to run to your chest for your blue musket, fife and drum...

what a weapon
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Considering the state of your posts you're really not in a position to be questioning the maturity of other people here.

Just because Xbox are throwing their proverbial toys out of the pram, it doesn't mean you need to as well.
 
Gonna be a serious conversation to be had here...so many pitfalls.

If you remove Day 1 from Game Pass, that'll severely hurt the one thing you are trying to gain ground on.

If you raise the price of Game Pass, you risk further damage.

If you put any single major exclusive(even if it's older like MCC) you set a precedent that can't be undone and also causes damage.


I'm really interested to hear the message they go with. In my eyes, they'll carefully avoid a lot of the more egregious things. They could theoretically talk about Hi-Fi, Hellblade or even Starfield and not speak on their flagships and it'll be okay with the right PR speak.


Part of me wonders if Sony or Nintendo will be there in some capacity to help soften the blow, but that'd arguably make it look worse.
 
Moridianae said:
Gonna be a serious conversation to be had here...so many pitfalls.

If you remove Day 1 from Game Pass, that'll severely hurt the one thing you are trying to gain ground on.

If you raise the price of Game Pass, you risk further damage.

If you put any single major exclusive(even if it's older like MCC) you set a precedent that can't be undone and also causes damage.


I'm really interested to hear the message they go with. In my eyes, they'll carefully avoid a lot of the more egregious things. They could theoretically talk about Hi-Fi, Hellblade or even Starfield and not speak on their flagships and it'll be okay with the right PR speak.


Part of me wonders if Sony or Nintendo will be there in some capacity to help soften the blow, but that'd arguably make it look worse.
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Unlikely when Microsoft's next play will be to paint PlayStation and Nintendo as "Gaming gatekeepers" to demand the option to have gamepass and their own store on these optional luxury non-general purpose computers.

Microsoft will also probably announce they are buying EA at the same time, and point to being out of the hardware market.
 
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PaintTinJr said:
Unlikely when Microsoft's next play will be to paint PlayStation and Nintendo as "Gaming gatekeepers" to demand the option to have gamepass and their own store on these option luxury non-general purpose computers.

Microsoft will also probably announce they are buying EA at the same time, and point to being out of the hardware market.
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A part of this whole debacle or "switcheroo" isn't lost on me, nor a friend of mine that thet could use this shift in strategy to have a battle strategy when they inevitably try to buy somebody else(EA, Ubisoft, etc.) because the trials proved they are nowhere near done trying that.
 
GHG said:
Considering the state of your posts you're really not in a position to be questioning the maturity of other people here.

Just because Xbox are throwing their proverbial toys out of the pram, it doesn't mean you need to as well.
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I don't think you're quite sure what toys out of the pram means

Gosh, all the emotional maturity of a 13 year old girl
 

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From Ancient Greek ἐπιχαιρεκακία (epikhairekakía, "joy upon evil").
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Moridianae said:
Gonna be a serious conversation to be had here...so many pitfalls.

If you remove Day 1 from Game Pass, that'll severely hurt the one thing you are trying to gain ground on.

If you raise the price of Game Pass, you risk further damage.

If you put any single major exclusive(even if it's older like MCC) you set a precedent that can't be undone and also causes damage.


I'm really interested to hear the message they go with. In my eyes, they'll carefully avoid a lot of the more egregious things. They could theoretically talk about Hi-Fi, Hellblade or even Starfield and not speak on their flagships and it'll be okay with the right PR speak.


Part of me wonders if Sony or Nintendo will be there in some capacity to help soften the blow, but that'd arguably make it look worse.
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Hellblade and Starfield have been promoted as being the flagship titles for Xbox this gen.

Either one of them going to Playstation will create a major PR disaster for MS.
 
MilkyJoe said:
We just had Christmas haha

I'm sticking with my prediction, the acquisitions will stay multiplat, that'll be the announcement
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The forecast is for YoY. So they are expecting a -40% decline in hardware sales between January and March 2024, when compared to January - March 2023.
 
Moridianae said:
Gonna be a serious conversation to be had here...so many pitfalls.

If you remove Day 1 from Game Pass, that'll severely hurt the one thing you are trying to gain ground on.

If you raise the price of Game Pass, you risk further damage.

If you put any single major exclusive(even if it's older like MCC) you set a precedent that can't be undone and also causes damage.


I'm really interested to hear the message they go with. In my eyes, they'll carefully avoid a lot of the more egregious things. They could theoretically talk about Hi-Fi, Hellblade or even Starfield and not speak on their flagships and it'll be okay with the right PR speak.


Part of me wonders if Sony or Nintendo will be there in some capacity to help soften the blow, but that'd arguably make it look worse.
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I don't think Sony or Nintendo will be there. That'd be awful.

It's like your girlfriend confessing that she cheated on you and also invited the person she cheated you with to be a part of that conversation 😄
 
Heisenberg007 said:
I don't think Sony or Nintendo will be there. That'd be awful.

It's like your girlfriend confessing that she cheated on you and also invited the person she cheated you with to be a part of that conversation 😄
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They will send out press releases praising their work in the gaming community.
 
Alebrije said:
Think they are beyond "______ Will save them"

They could release today new Elders Scrolls and don't have the market to makes it financial viable. They would need like 10 top 90 points exclusives to catch Sony but at the same time Sony not releasing great games.
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they can just be a publisher... which is all that's needed fo the
Alebrije said:
Think they are beyond "______ Will save them"

They could release today new Elders Scrolls and don't have the market to makes it financial viable. They would need like 10 top 90 points exclusives to catch Sony but at the same time Sony not releasing great games.
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I hope he will be talking about his new album and several hot new tracks 😎♥👍
 
Heisenberg007 said:
I don't think Sony or Nintendo will be there. That'd be awful.

It's like your girlfriend confessing that she cheated on you and also invited the person she cheated you with to be a part of that conversation 😄
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Nonsense. That simply shows you're secure in your masculinity. Get with the times.

 
I suppose the nature of a fantasist is being fantastical in their thought process, but some of you really believe that after spending $80bn on acquisitions for Xbox, Microsoft are, just 100 days later:

Abandoning Xbox hardware
Publishing everything day one on what was previously rival hardware
Gutting Game Pass?

And even more recently they did their Developer Direct which specifically stated release dates on "Xbox, PC, Game Pass" for their releases this year (Mana aside) - in the last two weeks they came to a sudden realization that none of that was what they were going to do and they had got everything wrong without realising it before? The biggest 'whoops, sorry about that' in corporate history perhaps?

What some are proposing (as fact without facts) amounts to giving up, immediately after making the largest investment by any company, in the history of video games.

Maybe I'm wrong (none of us have any actual info remember) we'll have to wait and see, but multi trillion dollar companies don't usually do that kind of thing.

This thread reminds me of the relentless, equally sure of themselves 'deal is dead' comments during the age of the ABK review.

I absolutely think Microsoft are making changes to their business model (good, they need to), but the fantasy that they are out of control and crashing and burning seems… fantastical to me.
 
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PaintTinJr said:
The delay to next week and the high level secrecy to announce has had me thinking. I wouldn't bet against a Windows 12 announcement with the new Vision for Xbox next week.

Through Microsoft messing things up, they like to release a new version of Windows to clean the slate, and have everyone shift their attention to all the possible ways a new version of Windows is likely to cause them headaches and more work, and obviously new Windows versions print Microsoft money and give added control over OEMs.

Unlike 3, 5, 7's or numbers ending in zero or 8's that have a strength, triangle, pentagon, heptagon or infinity association, 11 is so meh, that replacing it with a stronger longevity of a Windows 12 (12 hours, 12 months) feels inevitable to me.
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Would they tarnish windows 12 linking it to xbox though. I don't think so.
 
its simple math, Xbox market share its the lowest that had ever been and they just bought Activision/King for u$75b, they need to cash from that acquisition or shareholders ll go mad.

As I said in another thread, XBOX is no longer as relevant as it used to be ( X360 era ), the best way for them to remain relevant in the market is to go third party.

in short Xbox turns into Sega next Wednesday
 
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