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Microsoft Business Update Podcast | OT | SEGABOX |
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DeepEnigma
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They say this every gen.Did everyone ignore Sarah saying the next generation Xbox will be the biggest generational jump in the history of consoles?
HeisenbergFX4
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What a wet fart of a show. The only mildly interesting thing for me was how uncomfortable all 3 of them appeared and how non-cohesive as a team they came across.
ViciousAgenda
Member
Those 4 games aren't really gonna sell that much are they?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
What are these 4 games?
GHG
Gold Member
What you want doesn't matter.
dem
Member
Is it though? Minecraft Dungeons got shipped elsewhere
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
No one listensDid everyone ignore Sarah saying the next generation Xbox will be the biggest generational jump in the history of consoles?
I thought they would go into more detail about it since they pretty much have specs locked in
I would guess anyhow
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
We'll be back again at this next year but this time Phil will be announcing Starfield. Anyone who believes it will be only 4 games and no other games are coming to PS and Switch is lying to themselves. This podcast was cope and damage control. The biggest news out of this is that MS is going third party no matter how they choose to damage control it.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Even longer, I'd say. As I said a few days ago, porting games take time and companies also spread game releases to spread revenue and avoid cannibalization.We're gonna keep doing this song and dance all this year and next, aren't we ?
Sony still hasn't ported 2020 games like Demon's Souls and Ghost of Tsushima.
It'll take Xbox a few years to fully port their catalog. They are doing 5 games in the beginning, which is already more than I expected (As Dusk Falls is the 5th one).
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
cireza
Member
I don't care. I own an Xbox.
After watching the whole thing now itās clear that Microsoft is focussing more on being a third party publisher and it is driven by ābusinessā and āinvestmentā but Phil is too spineless to say anything concrete, even the names of the games that were leaked.
It honestly doesnāt sound like he was the one spearheading the change, just the one who needs to carry out orders to meet the end goal.
They talk about not damaging the established communities of the franchises theyāve bought, cross play and cross saves on other platforms, and introducing games onto other platforms which all hint at more XBOX multiplatform games to come.
It honestly doesnāt sound like he was the one spearheading the change, just the one who needs to carry out orders to meet the end goal.
They talk about not damaging the established communities of the franchises theyāve bought, cross play and cross saves on other platforms, and introducing games onto other platforms which all hint at more XBOX multiplatform games to come.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
everyone does, dummy.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Absolutely this.
Moridianae
Member
Why do I feel like their endgame strategy is:
Gradually bring out games to other platforms, but use Game Pass as an ecosystem and take it everywhere.
From there, they can buy out other people and say "Well, you can't fight us on it because you CAN get those games, but only in our streaming ecosystem first unless you wait"
But developers can't get much revenue so they try and GAAS everything.
Ugh. Hope that doesn't happen.
Gradually bring out games to other platforms, but use Game Pass as an ecosystem and take it everywhere.
From there, they can buy out other people and say "Well, you can't fight us on it because you CAN get those games, but only in our streaming ecosystem first unless you wait"
But developers can't get much revenue so they try and GAAS everything.
Ugh. Hope that doesn't happen.
Skelterz
Member
Iāve found this discussion somewhat tone deaf they talk about the industry not growing and how dangerous it is and how the model needs to shift etc, But Sony and Nintendo are doing just fine? Same old model games get developed people buy game people buy system because great exclusives itās a tried a true model that works.
It sounds to me like Xbox are unhappy there not successful as the big boys and the reason there not is because there games arenāt as compelling.
It sounds to me like Xbox are unhappy there not successful as the big boys and the reason there not is because there games arenāt as compelling.
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ArcaneNLSC
Member
30% cut to fund more 3rd party exclusive deals according to Phil
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Like seemingly everything else Xbox does these days, this was a waste of time.
Unknown?
Member
He's been learning the same thing for over a decade now. It's time to put the hand up and ask for help!
cireza
Member
Then as with any game, they will announce them when they are ready ? Why should it be different for these 4 games ?
They also made clear that they don't want to damage Xbox as a platform. So it's basically a balancing act.
I think Halo MCC would make a lot of sense. Since it's not a flagship title any more and would drive a lot of interest into the community.
ChorizoPicozo
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Yekshemesh
Member
Did everyone ignore Sarah saying the next generation Xbox will be the biggest generational jump in the history of consoles?
We're ignoring it because it's all a bunch of bullshit PR buzzwords.
Banjo64
cumsessed
phil just shot himself in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about body language culture (I'm an expert), but playing with your wedding ring and making eye contact with a strong minority female are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in england where you can become successful by being an meek pussy. If you touch your wedding ring in america it means that your platform is going third party, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the burger public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase xbox games for any system, nor will they purchase any of philās bullshit. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but phil has alienated an entire market with this move.
phil, publicly apologize and cancel your marriage or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about body language culture (I'm an expert), but playing with your wedding ring and making eye contact with a strong minority female are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in england where you can become successful by being an meek pussy. If you touch your wedding ring in america it means that your platform is going third party, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the burger public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase xbox games for any system, nor will they purchase any of philās bullshit. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but phil has alienated an entire market with this move.
phil, publicly apologize and cancel your marriage or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Firestartah
Banned
They just oiled you up, this doesnt change anything. It will only continue to dilute the xbox brand and less people will chose it and just get a PS5, that 1:4 only about to get worse. Eventually I'm sure even Starfield will get to PS5.
They oiled you up through PR.
They oiled you up through PR.
bender
What time is it?
It include Game Pass Core which is the rebranded Gold which means their total subscriber base has plummeted.
MasterDerico
Member
I love to see triggered fanboys who want to see other consoles to fail lmao!
Best podcast ever!!
Best podcast ever!!
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Variahunter
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sure, could have been.
But I'll take this as it's fun watching the excitement folks created deflate.
twilo99
Member
Bring it!
ChorizoPicozo
Member
I don't care, i own an Xbox
Yoboman
Member
I don't think you'll find a lot of cases where it won't make sense for Xbox leadership to make more money
Negotiator101
Member
34 million gamepass subscribers and its still at 25 million according to Gaf 
LordCBH
Member
Starfield Special Edition on PS6 lol
twilo99
Member
Every single GaaS game should be available on all possible platforms.. that's just the nature of the biz model, so I really don't know why they don't launch Halo Multiplayer on PlayStation and keep the silly single player bs on Xbox
Hohenheim
Member
Well, that was a whole lot of "nothing new happening". They could have summed this up in a tweet. Why bother making this video?
Come on.. 4 games, two of which are GAAS. And the other two High Fi Rush and Pentiment I suppose? The fanboys went full retard and straight to suicide watch-mode because of this? And of course things might/will change in the future. Every business changes over time.
RIP "Insiders" and hysterical dramaqueen fanboys who sold their consoles and acted like fuckin' lunatics. Embarrasing.
Come on.. 4 games, two of which are GAAS. And the other two High Fi Rush and Pentiment I suppose? The fanboys went full retard and straight to suicide watch-mode because of this? And of course things might/will change in the future. Every business changes over time.
RIP "Insiders" and hysterical dramaqueen fanboys who sold their consoles and acted like fuckin' lunatics. Embarrasing.
fallingdove
Member
Gotta hand it to Xbox. This was handled about as well as it could have been handled.
That said, it was obvious that there was more to the story than they were willing to share. Between the lines, itās clear that they are exploring options with 3rd parties to produce Xbox hardware. I wouldnāt be surprised if the next gen Xbox X represents a insanely priced, insanely spec-ed machine but you can also buy a value oriented machine from Asus or Alienware or whatever.
Also pretty clear that games that have been on Xbox for a year or more will be considered for PlayStation/Switch. The fact that Phil mentioned multiple times that āmoving games multiplat is an important component in keeping Xbox aroundā is telling. Tiny trash games like Pentiment arenāt going to deliver that impact.
That said, it was obvious that there was more to the story than they were willing to share. Between the lines, itās clear that they are exploring options with 3rd parties to produce Xbox hardware. I wouldnāt be surprised if the next gen Xbox X represents a insanely priced, insanely spec-ed machine but you can also buy a value oriented machine from Asus or Alienware or whatever.
Also pretty clear that games that have been on Xbox for a year or more will be considered for PlayStation/Switch. The fact that Phil mentioned multiple times that āmoving games multiplat is an important component in keeping Xbox aroundā is telling. Tiny trash games like Pentiment arenāt going to deliver that impact.
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Mr.Phoenix
Member
Just gonna quote myself...
I have been saying this would be a PR salad. But the core messages are there for anyone that really wants to listen.
Hint: "Growth". Just look at how many times that was said in that video.
I have been saying this would be a PR salad. But the core messages are there for anyone that really wants to listen.
Hint: "Growth". Just look at how many times that was said in that video.