Intel Arc B580 review thread
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Gaiff
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Seems it's still having some issues. Rich from DF didn't try a big suite of games, but he did try Infinite Warfare which is DX10, and it still struggles there. It's a lot better than at launch, but it probably will never reach parity with AMD or NVIDIA.
Skifi28
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Eh, not reaching parity is fine I guess. Old games could be brute-forced for the most part with a modern card. As long they don't crash or stutter like crazy I'd be happy, but we'll need a bigger sample.
Honey Bunny
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Any of you guys praising it actually gonna buy it?
Radical_3d
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Already better than my PS5Pro.
Skifi28
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Obviously not, we just hope for nvidia slashing prices!
On a more serious note, if my concerns about older games are alleviated I will start recommending it to all the people I know stuck with a 1060 and waiting for a decent cheap GPU that isn't gimped by memory.
Topher
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This isn't the level of performance many here are looking for, but it is a step in the right direction for an already absurdly expensive GPU market.
hinch7
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Raytracing performance leaves some to be desired but for a $250 with 12GB VRAM, its pretty decent for a budget card and video encoding. Give it a bit of undervolt and overclock and it should be one of the best bang for bucks out there.
Absolutely makes a mockery of the 7600/XT. It'll be interesting to see how AMD and Nvidia will respond with their upcoming budget lines.
Absolutely makes a mockery of the 7600/XT. It'll be interesting to see how AMD and Nvidia will respond with their upcoming budget lines.
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LordOfChaos
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RT wise it looked like it brought things from unusable to about barely just usable a lot of the time compared to its competitors
I'd opt for higher frame rate over 30fps rt, but I seemed to see a lot where the competitors were unplayable below 20 and it brought it to 30+ at least
hinch7
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Yeah RT isn't great. Maybe in the less RT intensive stuff it might do okay. But the rest of the performance and specs seems pretty great for the price. Near or best in class, even. And at least it has 12gb VRAM going for it. Which for longevitys sake I'd take over any 8GB card. Just look at how much Indiana Jones takes up.. its just asinine that both AMD and Nvidia are going to be releasing new cards in 2025 with 8GB, yet again.
Unknown Soldier
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AMD getting squeezed on both ends non huh
Nvidia owns AMD on the high end, now Intel is poised to take over AMD on the low end
AMD has nowhere to run in GPU these days
Nvidia owns AMD on the high end, now Intel is poised to take over AMD on the low end
AMD has nowhere to run in GPU these days
A tale as old as time. Performative competition supporters just want competitors to make Nvidia lower their prices so they can buy Nvidia for cheaper
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El Muerto
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I might get this. I bought a RX6600 when my old gpu died as i was on a budget. This seems like a decent jump from what i have and i'll be able to do raytracing even at 1440p. I dont care about running every game in 4k at max settings. Always got by on a gpu <$300 for two decades now.
twilo99
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*if paired with a modern CPU
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LavitzSlambert
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This is great news for gamers, finally pushing forward a stagnant GPU industry. This 8GB VRAM bullshit is worse than the quad core stagnation CPU days. Might just cancel my 7800 XT BF order and wait for the B770/780.
twilo99
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Sadly this is most likely unsustainable pricing from Intel...just trying to grab some market share, but yes, great for gamers while it lasts.
Crayon
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AMD can still run to good pricing. Super curious if they do because arc is suddenly a threat with these good reviews.
kruis
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The biggest issue is support for Intel's AI upscaling/frame gen tech. There's still no vendor agnostic AI/frame gen API from MS, so anyone buying has no clue which future games will support XeSS 2. I'd rather pay a few dollars more for an Nvidia card and have peace of mind.
SolidQ
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delirium trigger
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Exactly. Nvidia pushes out a 5060 that runs like a 4060 ti and charges 300, that's what people are gonna buy. People will pay an extra 50 for the upscaler and whatever new tech feature comes along with it.
hinch7
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Sure. Performance is roughtly a match overall. And is 32% cheaper than the 7600XT or 80 dollars off. The B580 absolutely destroys it in productivity, Ai etc and has better image quality in XeSS.
Only the drivers still are holding it back as even after the latest update, there's some issues. Still, very impressive tbh and a much needed graphics card in this price range. I doubt AMD nor Nvidia can match this for value unless they want to eat into their margins.
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Gaiff
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Who the fuck uses AMD for Stable Diffusion?
Also, the B580 looks compelling now, but don't forget its real competitors are Blackwell and RDNA4, not Lovelace and RDNA3.
raduque
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I need to see how it compares to an RTX 2080. I'm using a GTX 1080 in my rig because the watercooled 2080 I have won't fit in my case, which has no spots to mount a 120mm AIO. If it's on-par or just very slightly under the 2080, I'll be happy with it.
nVidia is going to be arrogant and launch the 5060 with 8gb and at a $500 price tag. AMD might do something in response, but I don't know what.
twilo99
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Unfortunate
No one, it's just anecdotal.
We will see what happens, but I don't think this card can really compete with the upcoming gen, and no one expects it to.
Its just a solid proposition for people who are looking to build something cheap, which is rather exciting considering what we've seen for the past 4-5 years.
No one, it's just anecdotal.
We will see what happens, but I don't think this card can really compete with the upcoming gen, and no one expects it to.
Its just a solid proposition for people who are looking to build something cheap, which is rather exciting considering what we've seen for the past 4-5 years.
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LordOfChaos
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It's hard to believe this created Battlemage
Reizo Ryuu
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Yep, everywhere I've checked it's much more expensive than promised, making it a completely pointless product; dunno which idiot made the pricing decision for europe.
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tkscz
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I keep seeing people saying that and don't understand why. The point is price per performance. It's better than the 4060 and 7600 while also being cheaper than they are. Yes most likely the 5060 and 8600 will be better in terms of performance but will they be cheaper? Will the 5060 or 8600 launch at $249.99 or less? I doubt they will. We also don't know when those cards are set to release. But the B580 is here now at $249.99 and it gets great performance. It's aim is to be the card that finally replaces the aging 1650, 1660, 1060, 1070 and 1080 cards that still get more use than most new cards.
Gaiff
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If the 5060 is $300 but 30% faster, the B580 won't look so good.
tkscz
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We're talking about people who are fine still rocking a 1650 or 1660 because it's cheaper. Even the 3060 (Ti) cost $280 or more and most review sites say the 3060Ti beats the B850 in some games.
I've said it before but the majority of people playing PC games now a days just want the game to run, they don't know nor care about how much faster one card is than the other.
These are people who walk into something like a Microcenter or Best Buy and ask what will run games. They don't ask about 1080 or 1440 or 4K.
Most go with nvidia because the name is big, it's what everyone gets. So when you hand them the $300 RTX 5060 or the $160 GTX 1650, they will always lean towards the cheaper option.
Hell the 1650 and 1660 still existing in some copacetic might hurt Intel more than the 4060 or 5060. Though I think nvidia finally put those two out to pasture, not positive about that though.
SolidQ
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RDNA3 people use.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
This isn't how it works. NVIDIA has the mind share and market share. If what you said was true, AMD would be dominating the lower segments, but they aren't in spite of having offered better bang-for-your-buck than NVIDIA for years.
Intel still has a reputation to build and their drivers, especially for legacy titles, are far from perfect. A $300 5060 that performs 30% better along with all the other benefits will knock it out.
People evidently don't just walk into stores and buy the cheapest card for their needs. Else, AMD would be selling much better.
hinch7
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Until it runs out of VRAM. And you'd have to lower texture settings. In which case you get worse image quality.
Gp1
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I'm in the "wait and see" team right now.
Jumping the wagon and go with a 4070 was an option but the card is already 2 years old and Intel really spiced up the segment.
AMD will focus on this segment and Nvidia will have to respond without straying too far away from AMD value proposition.
Since the days "of **60 coming close to the last gen **80" are over, I'm settled with Nvidia going for a premium price USD 300/350-375, with their new bells and whistles, at least 12/16gb VRAM and performance coming close to 4070.
Jumping the wagon and go with a 4070 was an option but the card is already 2 years old and Intel really spiced up the segment.
AMD will focus on this segment and Nvidia will have to respond without straying too far away from AMD value proposition.
Since the days "of **60 coming close to the last gen **80" are over, I'm settled with Nvidia going for a premium price USD 300/350-375, with their new bells and whistles, at least 12/16gb VRAM and performance coming close to 4070.
What if 5060 release at $400?
It's still going to outsell B580 by a lot.
tkscz
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I said nvidia has the mind share. That people know nvidia is the card EVERYONE has so it's what people go to by default. It's why I also followed with that's the reason the 1650 keeps selling even though there are much better options out there. Yes, the 3060 and 4060 are sitting at first and third respectively (with second belonging to laptop versions of the 4060)but the price of the 1650 is why it's still at the fourth most used GPU today. I even said in a previous post that the B580's biggest hurdle is how nvidia has 90% of the market because of how bad AMD messed up with radeon drivers back in the day.
My main point being power of the card isn't the only aspect, if anything, price is just as big an aspect for people who are buying a GPU. If Nvidia released the 5050 at around $199.99, I could easily see that topping the most used GPU list on steam. Easily beating out a 5060 at $299.99
If Intel manages to squeeze into the market, then having a more than par GPU are affordable pricing will be the reason it happened.
winjer
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Digging into Driver Overhead on Intel's B580
Hardware Canucks recently found that Intel's new B580 GPU suffered when paired with older, weaker CPUs.
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