Kopite7kimi : RTX 5070/5070TI specs leak
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Nickolaidas
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Yeah, I think I made the right choice when I got my 4070 Ti Super a month ago.
Now I seriously need to upgrade my CPU, RAM and NvMe's ....
Now I seriously need to upgrade my CPU, RAM and NvMe's ....
Bojji
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Yep, PS5 has like 13GB available to devs - out of this some GB have to be used by CPU. So in theory, 12GB should be fine this gen on console settings. But want to go above them? You need 16GB+
Plus there are just some unoptized ports...
This leaker is almost always accurate.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I think it's 12.5GB available, including some of which, as you pointed out, needs to be used for tasks done by regular RAM on PC. We're probably much closer to around 10GB or so.
Sanepar
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PS5 run games now at 1080p with low/medium settings.
Diddy X
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I guess the inicial rumours are always about "the biggest leap yet" for it then just to disappoint, doesn't look like I'll need to upgrade from my 4070 and even less so when even the most powerful card can't run the games fine due to poor optimization.
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Sanepar
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6080 need to be 32gb or it will be doa. Same crap as 3080 or 3080 ti and 10gb.
asdasdasdbb
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That's only happening if 4 GB chips are available. Which is possible. I was talking more about the 50 Super which you might get 50% increase in VRAM across the board because 3 GB chips should be available by then.
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Xdrive05
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BTW, you can expect the 5060 and 5060ti to both be on a 128bit bus again, and be 8GB and 16GB respectively, again. They might even try an 8GB version of the TI card again, but early indications at least suggest that 16GB is a given option for the TI version.
If the market can wait around a little (lot?) longer for a potential "Super" refresh line, there are those 3GB Samsung chips that are supposed to manifest. That's the only way you're gonna get a 12GB 5060 even as an option, and you can expect to pay more than the 8GB version for it. But at least that one has potential.
I'm just really hoping the A580 can keep its price and stay on the shelves as a competitive option to, hopefully, incentivize Nvidia to go lower on their 5060 and TI pricing this time around.
Oh, and you can expect tariffs to royally fuck pricing all around, but that will disproportionally hurt the entry-mid range like the xx60 cards as the lower price points are more crucial there for buyers.
In short, the prospects for good entry level 1440p cards (or even 1080p cards) is only going from bad to worse. Intel is our last hope if AMD can't get something more appealing than the 7600 out the door for their next gen.
Merry Christmas, y'all.
If the market can wait around a little (lot?) longer for a potential "Super" refresh line, there are those 3GB Samsung chips that are supposed to manifest. That's the only way you're gonna get a 12GB 5060 even as an option, and you can expect to pay more than the 8GB version for it. But at least that one has potential.
I'm just really hoping the A580 can keep its price and stay on the shelves as a competitive option to, hopefully, incentivize Nvidia to go lower on their 5060 and TI pricing this time around.
Oh, and you can expect tariffs to royally fuck pricing all around, but that will disproportionally hurt the entry-mid range like the xx60 cards as the lower price points are more crucial there for buyers.
In short, the prospects for good entry level 1440p cards (or even 1080p cards) is only going from bad to worse. Intel is our last hope if AMD can't get something more appealing than the 7600 out the door for their next gen.
Merry Christmas, y'all.
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I always figured it was 10GB because if you're targeting consoles the Series X has its memory split between 10GB of really fast ram and 6 GB of not as fast. Supposedly the OS uses 2.5 of the 6 GB which leaves a game 10GB of fastest ram that you'd probably use for VRAM and the 3.5 for the CPU. (And then you don't have to rework your memory for the PS5 version.)
Na here is what gonna happen next
6090: 32GB -512 bit
6080: 24GB - 192 bit
6070 Ti: 20GB - 192 bit
6070: 16GB - 128 bit
6060 Ti: 16GB - 96 bit
6060: 12GB - 96 bit
Edit: I know Bits and GB is not matching but you get the point.
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Fahdis
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Guess Im waiting for next year.
Horseganador
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The consoles launched in 2020 with 16GB of RAM and Nvidia skimping to the extreme and putting only 12GB in its 5070.
Sanepar
Member
SInce 700 series nvidia fuckup memory to enforce replacement every 2 years. If 3080 and ti had 16gb they would be decent gpus nowadays.
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Bojji
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They don't have nod shrink this time. They probably increased clocks so that means higher power draw than ada.
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Tsmc 3 is mature node by now apart from being expensive. Has there been rumors what process it uses.
Buggy Loop
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Oh? What's that rumour? Must have missed it.
Bojji
Member
4N still.
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Magic Carpet
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Some new way of compressing textures data. Sqeeze it till it blurs is my guess.
TheTony316
Member
12 gigs?
I bet the 5070 will cost around 600-700€ and the Ti around 800-900€
I bet the 5070 will cost around 600-700€ and the Ti around 800-900€
Sanepar
Member
I hope we have a node shrink for 6000 series and under tsmc.4N still.
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asdasdasdbb
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I think that'll happen with Rubin but only N3P and 2 years from now.
ResilientBanana
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Hahaha ok keep thinking that
Senua
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What's so funny about that?
ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
The 5070 TI being under 400watts and 256-Bit makes it a no brainer for me
Esp since I don't really care about modern AAA gaming anymore
I just care about running older games faster and at higher resolutions at this point
Will be a perfect upgrade from my 2060 Super
Esp since I don't really care about modern AAA gaming anymore
I just care about running older games faster and at higher resolutions at this point
Will be a perfect upgrade from my 2060 Super
Buggy Loop
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rm082e
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3080 10GB owner here: I've never skipped two generations of GPUs before, but if the 5070 Ti can't match the 4080, and the 5080 really is a 16GB card, this will probably be the first.
Even if I wait a year for a 5080 refresh that has more VRAM, by the time we get it, I'll be hesitant because the 6000 series will be a year away.
Even if I wait a year for a 5080 refresh that has more VRAM, by the time we get it, I'll be hesitant because the 6000 series will be a year away.
Senua
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It sucks but with that attitude you'll never upgrade lol, were definitely at a shit point in GPU land though
rm082e
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If the 5080 had 20GB of VRAM and were priced at $999, I would absolutely upgrade. All of the rumors I've seen have said 16GB and $1200 or more. I just can't bring myself to spend $1200 while feeling l like I'm being taken advantage of.
They've got to offer enough of a performance boost, with enough VRAM that I can expect not to run into issues for a few years, at a reasonable enough price. I get that inflation has gone up, but 12 years ago the 80 series cards were $650. That's $893 in today's dollars. I get that they want to juice profits, so I could see paying $1000 for an 80 series card right now if it hit the spot - Even $1100 if EVGA were still making their FTW3 cards. But going light on the VRAM again and pricing it at $1200 is just trying to push people in the market for an 80 into buying a 90, which I'm not going to do.
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Sanepar
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5070 ti will be more powerfull than 4080. At least 10-15% and with dlss 4.
Bojji
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You are basing this on what?
asdasdasdbb
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It should have a bit more compute power and memory bandwidth than the 4080 Super.
Hawk The Slayer
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12gb should have been for the rtx 5060 and 16gb should have been for the 5060 TI at 300 and 400. No reason for a 8gb only card in 2024 even in the lowest one and for 1080p cause even that resolution needs more than that now.
Hope the 5070 is going to be at a fair price at 450 while the 5070 ti be at 550 at most but doubt it.
Might just be the year I get a completely new PC if the price is right, been using my GTX 1070 for 8 years now. Haven't upgraded since one the games I wanted to play were good on my 1070 and two because the prices were rip offs due to scalpers and even after. But more and more games are out now or will come that my 8gb vram 1070 isn't enough for in both power and vram even on 1080p.
Hope the 5070 is going to be at a fair price at 450 while the 5070 ti be at 550 at most but doubt it.
Might just be the year I get a completely new PC if the price is right, been using my GTX 1070 for 8 years now. Haven't upgraded since one the games I wanted to play were good on my 1070 and two because the prices were rip offs due to scalpers and even after. But more and more games are out now or will come that my 8gb vram 1070 isn't enough for in both power and vram even on 1080p.
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asdasdasdbb
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Bojji
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It has less cores than standard 4080. Clocks will determine overall power.
I don't think 4080 is exactly MB limited very much.
This is some misconception - not all games are MB starved, 4070ti has HALF of memory bandwidth of 3080ti/3090 yet it's as fast or a bit faster in most games even in 4k.
M1987
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The 5070ti will be no less than 800 if it's faster than a 4080
PlayofSparta
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I'm fine with my 4070 super.
twilo99
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ye the 4xxx cards had plenty of headroom so it makes sense
Hawk The Slayer
Member
The RTX 5060Ti 16gb is the one I'm aiming for since the 5070 and above are going to be way too expensive. Was aiming for a 4060 ti 16gb which should be enough on 1080p for things like gta vi, ffvii remake part 3, Stellar Blade 2, space Marine 3 etc when they come. But prefer something a tiny bit stronger just to be sure especially on modding the future elder scrolls vi. So the 5060 ti 16gb would be the one. Just hope it's 450 like what the rtx 4060 ti was. Or 500 at most and is at least 10% to 20% better.
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Fake resolution, fake frames and now fake textures, smh. That's what happens when you only get marginal gains gen over gen, they sell you inferior solutions in order to make you upgrade.
proandrad
Member
The PC market is huge, but the high-end pc market is small. If it takes a 4090 to run a game maxed out at 4k60 native, then the game engine is too demanding and should be scaled back.
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Sanepar
Member
Just check 4070 ti to 3080.
Bojji
Member
There was massive clock increase +1GHz.
I suspect clock increase will happen (based on power draw) but not anything on this scale.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
And most won't complain. Just keep buying with smiles on their faces and bragging about being the PC master race.