Baldur's Gate III | OT | Bear in Mind, Your Choices Have Consequences

Nankatsu said:
I'm confused because Shadowhunter spells seem to be all over the place. I don't remember using spell A, spell is prepared and I can't seem to use it.

Am I missing something? Being at low health, for example, makes you unable to use spells?
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Shadowhunter ? You mean ShadowHeart ?

Some character/class get some special spells that you don't need to prepare and have access all the time to them.
Some might be usable only 1 per short or long rest, or some might have special condition of activation or even special ressources associate to the class (Ki for Monk, Channel Divinity charges for Cleric etc...)

Also if you're wearing an armor class (light, medium, heavy) you're not proficient with, it will make you unable to cast spells. (But if you speak about Shadow HEart, it shouldn't be the case since, if I remember well, she's proficient with Heavy armor)

You could also just lack the spell slot required to cast it.
 
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DelireMan7 said:
Shadowhunter ? You mean ShadowHeart ?

Some character/class get some special spells that you don't need to prepare and have access all the time to them.
Some might be usable only 1 per short or long rest, or some might have special condition of activation or even special ressources associate to the class (Ki for Monk, Channel Divinity charges for Cleric etc...)

Also if you're wearing an armor class (light, medium, heavy) you're not proficient with, it will make you unable to cast spells. (But if you speak about Shadow HEart, it shouldn't be the case since, if I remember well, she's proficient with Heavy armor)

You could also just lack the spell slot required to cast it.
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Yeah, I wanted to meant Shadowheart :messenger_tears_of_joy:.

I'm gonna screenshot it later today and post here what the game throws at me and unables me to cast the spell.

I'm pretty sure I must be missing something.
 
DelireMan7 DelireMan7 help a brother here:

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For example this one. Says always prepared and I can't cast it.
 
Nankatsu said:
DelireMan7 DelireMan7 help a brother here:

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For example this one. Says always prepared and I can't cast it.
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It's because you don't have the spell slot available. (You can see it at the bottom of the spell you highlighted. The level 1 spell slot is red with a warning triangle.)

Most of major spells needs a spell slot to be cast. A lvl 1 spell use a lvl1 spell slot. A lvl 2, a lvl 2 etc...

Now you have used all your spell slot (I can see it because they are all grey instead of blue, they are the little square above your spell box at the bottom of the screen)
Currently you have 4 Lvl1 spell slots and 3 lvl 2. But all are used (you casted 4 lvl 1 spells et 3 lvl 2 spells).

They refill on rest (but can't remember if it's on short rest or only on long rest).

You basically get charges to cast spell. You can't cast them again and again without rest..

Only cantrip or ritual can be cast without using a Spell slot.
 
DelireMan7 said:
It's because you don't have the spell slot available. (You can see it at the bottom of the spell you highlighted. The level 1 spell slot is red with a warning triangle.)

Most of major spells needs a spell slot to be cast. A lvl 1 spell use a lvl1 spell slot. A lvl 2, a lvl 2 etc...

Now you have used all your spell slot (I can see it because they are all grey instead of blue, they are the little square above your spell box at the bottom of the screen)
Currently you have 4 Lvl1 spell slots and 3 lvl 2. But all are used (you casted 4 lvl 1 spells et 3 lvl 2 spells).

They refill on rest (but can't remember if it's on short rest or only on long rest).

You basically get charges to cast spell. You can't cast them again and again without rest..

Only cantrip or ritual can be cast without using a Spell slot.
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See? Told you I was being dumb 🤣

Got it now. Thanks man!
 
I summoned the ogres during the Hag fight, killed the hag and then the ogres proceed to kill mayrina.

I'm not even mad, joke was on me.

Sorry Little One GIF
 
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Having an issue with saving suddenly the past couple of days. Anyone run into this?

This is driving me crazy because it just happed, yesterday and hasn't stopped. Every time I try to save it says failed reason 804. I have tried everything suggested online, Things I have tried

  • Verifying Game Files
  • The Trade/Barter Trick
  • Installing and Reinstalling
  • Deleting Older Saves
Anyone have any ideas? Thank you
 
Jooxed said:
Having an issue with saving suddenly the past couple of days. Anyone run into this?

This is driving me crazy because it just happed, yesterday and hasn't stopped. Every time I try to save it says failed reason 804. I have tried everything suggested online, Things I have tried

  • Verifying Game Files
  • The Trade/Barter Trick
  • Installing and Reinstalling
  • Deleting Older Saves
Anyone have any ideas? Thank you
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Are you using mods? Also, I know they are about to drop their latest update and are making some kind of community stress test.

But you may also have a corrupted save - did you try starting a new game?
 


Fucking finally. I've putting off starting my final playthrough until this patch landed because I use quite a few mods and didn't want to risk an in-progress save getting corrupted/unplayable.
 
I never got around to playing this from the backlog as it seemed quite a comitment time wise.

Are the new classes recommended for a first playthrough?
 
Oh, new patch already dropped? I was planning to do my 2nd full playthrough with it and an updated mod list.
 
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I'm playing for nearly 60 hours and I'm on the verge of entering to Act 3. But man. This game's dice system is rigged to hell. Even with karmic dice on, and I rolled back difficulty to the easiest, the dice rolls are driving me crazy.

This not just about RNG. I believe it has to do with game design. In every fight, I mean EVERY, my characters constantly rolling 1-2-3-4-5. I stopped counting of critical failiure dice rolls. Often missing above %80 hit chances. %40-50 hit chances? 9 out of 10 times miss. On the other hand for example blind, lower ground etc. enemies hitting me all the time. It seems the disadvanteges don't apply to enemies. Yes by some miracle they can miss sometimes or disadvantages apply to them but these times are rare.

I actually very much like the overall story (besides some pushed woke elements, so unnecessary) and waiting what's gonna happen on Act 3. But I really hate when the game cheats. My actual play time is on 50 hours. That means nearly 10 hours spent save scumming. Mental :messenger_expressionless:
 
Sept Terrion Of Nothing said:
I'm playing for nearly 60 hours and I'm on the verge of entering to Act 3. But man. This game's dice system is rigged to hell. Even with karmic dice on, and I rolled back difficulty to the easiest, the dice rolls are driving me crazy.

This not just about RNG. I believe it has to do with game design. In every fight, I mean EVERY, my characters constantly rolling 1-2-3-4-5. I stopped counting of critical failiure dice rolls. Often missing above %80 hit chances. %40-50 hit chances? 9 out of 10 times miss. On the other hand for example blind, lower ground etc. enemies hitting me all the time. It seems the disadvanteges don't apply to enemies. Yes by some miracle they can miss sometimes or disadvantages apply to them but these times are rare.

I actually very much like the overall story (besides some pushed woke elements, so unnecessary) and waiting what's gonna happen on Act 3. But I really hate when the game cheats. My actual play time is on 50 hours. That means nearly 10 hours spent save scumming. Mental :messenger_expressionless:
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Karmic dice is a terrible mechanic and should be avoided as far as I'm concerned. Didn't really have any issues without it other than the occasional bout of bad luck. It felt pretty good actually.
 
I bought this just as it released and had to play it via nvidia streaming (as I got it while away). It has been my "play while I'm away" game as it now has a native Mac client (so I can use my work laptop).

It's 2 years since release - I've just started Act 3. Maybe this year will be the year I complete BG3 - who knows...

(I'm about 70-80 hours in, although a lot of that is re-doing fights etc)
 
Sept Terrion Of Nothing said:
I'm playing for nearly 60 hours and I'm on the verge of entering to Act 3. But man. This game's dice system is rigged to hell. Even with karmic dice on,
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Your first mistake.


EDIT - On top of karmic dice being a bad idea in general, you should also keep in mind that the system is not designed for a comfortable "RELIANCE on the RNG". You are not supposed to roll the dice, close your eyes and cross the fingers.
Like with XCOM, you are supposed to minimize the impact of randomness, not lean into it.
That means to pile up bonuses, proficiencies and items to make it so that your "chances to roll a failure" will get slimmer and slimmer over time (i.e. Having an advantage on top of a high proficiency means that your chances to fail go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 400).

Are you paying attention to what your characters are good at (read: "high proficiency bonus")? Are you building [and dressing] them up to stockpile the benefits and minimize the bad outcomes?
 
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Sentenza said:
Your first mistake.


EDIT - On top of karmic dice being a bad idea in general, you should also keep in mind that the system is not designed for a comfortable "RELIANCE on the RNG". You are not supposed to roll the dice, close your eyes and cross the fingers.
Like with XCOM, you are supposed to minimize the impact of randomness, not lean into it.
That means to pile up bonuses, proficiencies and items to make it so that your "chances to roll a failure" will get slimmer and slimmer over time (i.e. Having an advantage on top of a high proficiency means that your chances to fail go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 400).

Are you paying attention to what your characters are good at (read: "high proficiency bonus")? Are you building [and dressing] them up to stockpile the benefits and minimize the bad outcomes?
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Normally I don't rely randomness on anything. So yeah, I'm trying to improve my chances with related bonuses not relying just on RNG. I'm also blind running so I don't look any guide or anything unless I'm really stuck in some situation. I have a huge charisma and I try to minimize fighting situations as much as possible. Also for example I use Asterion on chests so nearly all the time I open without problems. Similar to other situational requirements as well. My problem is combat.

When the fighting is inevitable, I face the dice rolls of 1-2-3-4-5 nearly %70-80 of the time. My team -with seemingly good gear- even missed shots with AC10 weak enemies . That is why I'm saying the game's dice rolls are somewhat rigged. Yes it can happen sometimes sure, but when it happens majority of the time it is not about RNG. I'm saying this because I'm checking the combat log and without the bonuses, majority of my dice rolls getting 1 to 5 values in d20 die. That is why with all of the bonuses to eliminate RNG I still can't even reach necessary thresholds.

I'll turn off karmic dice and play rest of the game like that. Let's see if my dice rolls are improving or getting to a level that my buffs will eliminate the RNG results in combat.
 
I finally jumped back into this last night. I had put it down a while back because I accidentally decided to wipe out the Druid Grove and did not have a recent save to reverse it. I had tried repeatedly to kill the person in the Goblin Caves that I had made the decision with and kept failing miserably. So, last night I decided to explore the cave some more. I find the dungeon where the druid I was looking for on another quest was imprisoned. I persuaded the goblins to release him, and then we wiped out the dungeon. He then gave me a quest to kill the three leaders in that cave, one of them being the one I had been trying to kill earlier. He then joins me, and four hours later, all of them are dead. My quest to destroy the Druid grove is now gone, and I am all the way back in on BG3. I had to force myself to turn the damn game off because of getting sleep for work, retarded, I know.

So on that note, I am assuming I am going to get an option to have this guy be a part of my party later on in the game? I hope so, because he was bad ass.
 
I just put 20 hours into this on PS5 Pro as Dark Urge but sadly abandoned it.
I love the characters, dialogue, choices, world, story but the endlessly complicated combat bores me to tears, even on easy.
I wish there was a "roll dice to win battle" mode to just enjoy all the stuff I love.
Shame but I can't commit to 80 hours, a lot of which will be unenjoyable, losing hour-long battles etc.
/Too old for that shit.
 
ecosse_011172 said:
I just put 20 hours into this on PS5 Pro as Dark Urge but sadly abandoned it.
I love the characters, dialogue, choices, world, story but the endlessly complicated combat bores me to tears, even on easy.
I wish there was a "roll dice to win battle" mode to just enjoy all the stuff I love.
Shame but I can't commit to 80 hours, a lot of which will be unenjoyable, losing hour-long battles etc.
/Too old for that shit.
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sorry you didnt enjoy it. I kinda feel like you just said you gave up on a racing game because the driving part bored you.

DnD is all about dat deep combat.
 
Nocty said:
sorry you didnt enjoy it. I kinda feel like you just said you gave up on a racing game because the driving part bored you.

DnD is all about dat deep combat.
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It's my first CRPG, I've played many JRPGs and Western RPGs, zero experience with DnD.
I don't think you analogy fits tbh, a big part of Baldur's Gate is the choices, characters and story as well as combat, it's not as if no-one cares about the characters, only the combat.
Racing games are about driving.
 
ecosse_011172 said:
It's my first CRPG, I've played many JRPGs and Western RPGs, zero experience with DnD.
I don't think you analogy fits tbh, a big part of Baldur's Gate is the choices, characters and story as well as combat, it's not as if no-one cares about the characters, only the combat.
Racing games are about driving.
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do you have access to a PC? there are a shit load of mods to make the combat play how you like it tbh
 
ecosse_011172 said:
I just put 20 hours into this on PS5 Pro as Dark Urge but sadly abandoned it.
I love the characters, dialogue, choices, world, story but the endlessly complicated combat bores me to tears, even on easy.
I wish there was a "roll dice to win battle" mode to just enjoy all the stuff I love.
Shame but I can't commit to 80 hours, a lot of which will be unenjoyable, losing hour-long battles etc.
/Too old for that shit.
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You can just save scum your way through battles if they bother you
 
ecosse_011172 said:
Thanks but that won't stop me having to spent scores of hours bored in battle.
I need the "skip battle" mod :)
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Play something else then if what is essentially 70% of the game, annoys you, or watch all the story stuff on youtube. The alternative is playing their other amazing crpg, Divinity Original Sin 2 which has combat that does not rely on dice rolls.
 
The Cockatrice said:
Play something else then if what is essentially 70% of the game, annoys you, or watch all the story stuff on youtube. The alternative is playing their other amazing crpg, Divinity Original Sin 2 which has combat that does not rely on dice rolls.
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I've already moved on, was just sharing my experience.
I was considering watching on YouTube, in fact I started a 40 hour video :D
 
Guilty_AI said:
You dont have to play as magician classes, you can try simpler ones first.
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Playing on easy, I wasn't struggling as a sorcerer, I had to switch to easy to wipeout the goblin kings.
I was basically at the point of the first bit of romance after the celebration party but knowing only to get to that point took 20 hours made it clear that I'd have to go through endless hours of (for me) unenjoyable combat put me off, the battles are just so long and tiresome when they cast the stuff that stops you moving etc.
 
ecosse_011172 said:
Playing on easy, I wasn't struggling as a sorcerer, I had to switch to easy to wipeout the goblin kings.
I was basically at the point of the first bit of romance after the celebration party but knowing only to get to that point took 20 hours made it clear that I'd have to go through endless hours of (for me) unenjoyable combat put me off, the battles are just so long and tiresome when they cast the stuff that stops you moving etc.
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I loved the battles, especially sneaking your party into the best positions for a surprise attack. There were some bosses that went down without even getting a turn via that sort of tactic.

Reminds me I should play this again. I just hope my winning battle tactics haven't been patched out in the last couple of years.
 
ecosse_011172 said:
I've already moved on, was just sharing my experience.
I was considering watching on YouTube, in fact I started a 40 hour video :D
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Not worth it. Just skip the game.

Play something simpler and more interesting story writing. Like Wasteland 3.

I did found Baldurs Gate 3 simpler than DOS 2 and BG2.
 
I'm starting the game soon. Is there something I better keep in mind while playing?
In particular I don't want to permanently miss on recruiting party members.
 
Achelexus said:
I'm starting the game soon. Is there something I better keep in mind while playing?
In particular I don't want to permanently miss on recruiting party members.
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You will miss out on a ton of things. Some of choices you make in main story will send some companions packing.

I say dont worry about it. Just try to explore to the max and do everything so you get most out of it.
 
ecosse_011172 said:
I just put 20 hours into this on PS5 Pro as Dark Urge but sadly abandoned it.
I love the characters, dialogue, choices, world, story but the endlessly complicated combat bores me to tears, even on easy.
I wish there was a "roll dice to win battle" mode to just enjoy all the stuff I love.
Shame but I can't commit to 80 hours, a lot of which will be unenjoyable, losing hour-long battles etc.
/Too old for that shit.
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I can understand you totally. The game really and I really mean "REALLY" shines on story parts. Nearly perfect.

But combat parts are annoying to say the least. DnD games are especially brutal on lower levels. I finished the game but save scumming really took my enthusiasm overall. Also my dice rolls were so bad in my entire gameplay that even with the various buffs, I roll 1 to 5 most of the time. One time I rolled double criticial failure which is 1. After that double roll of 1, I double roll 2 and 3 consecutevly. I was so on the verge of madness that I stopped playing and return after some time (this happened after karmic dice off by the way with recommendation from here). Combat dice rolls were menace for me.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say I really understand where you're coming from. No need to play a game if you arent' enjoying it. Unless you are obsessive like me to finish what you started.
 
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Sept Terrion Of Nothing said:
I can understand you totally. The game really and I really mean "REALLY" shines on story parts. Nearly perfect.

But combat parts are annoying to say the least. DnD games are especially brutal on lower levels. I finished the game but save scumming really took my enthusiasm overall. Also my dice rolls were so bad in my entire gameplay that even with the various buffs, I roll 1 to 5 most of the time. One time I rolled double criticial failure which is 1. After that double roll of 1, I double roll 2 and 3 consecutevly. I was so on the verge of madness that I stopped playing and return after some time (this happened after karmic dice off by the way with recommendation from here). Combat dice rolls were menace for me.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say I really understand where you're coming from. No need to play a game if you arent' enjoying it. Unless you are obsessive like me to finish what you started.
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Thanks a lot, I was almost tempted to power through but know 100% it would be an utter chore.
 
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