Bloomberg analysts anticipate Nintendo Switch 2 to be priced at $400 or more
kevboard
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350 entry bundle
400 normal bundle
450 Mario Kart 9 bundle
I will stay with my previous prediction:
I will add 2 tiny details to the predicion:
I further bet that the Core Bundle will have black and grey joycons, while the base bundle will have the ones from the trailer that are black and red/blue.
and that the standalone Dock will cost $100 and comes with the dock, a power supply and an HDMI cable.
400 normal bundle
450 Mario Kart 9 bundle
I will stay with my previous prediction:
my bet currently is:
$400 base bundle. Switch 2, L/R Joycons, L/R wrist straps, dock, HDMI cable, power cable.
$450 Mario Kart Bundle. everything from the base bundle + Mario Kart 9 and the joycons have a special color (maybe red... idk).
$300~$350 Core bundle. Switch 2, L/R Joycons, Power Cable. no dock, no wrist straps, no HDMI cable.
let's see how close my prediction turns out to be. imagine if I am 100% correctI'll claim I'm an insider and knew all along and just acted like I guessed it
I will add 2 tiny details to the predicion:
I further bet that the Core Bundle will have black and grey joycons, while the base bundle will have the ones from the trailer that are black and red/blue.
and that the standalone Dock will cost $100 and comes with the dock, a power supply and an HDMI cable.
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James Sawyer Ford
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What leading model are you taking about?
The switch 2 is rumored to not be an OLED, and the base unit can be found for much cheaper than $299
They will also clearly discount the old Switch and phase it out.
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blacktout
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The OLED is currently the best-selling model in all regions, last I checked.
Whether or not the Switch 2 is an OLED doesn't change the fact that Nintendo will want it to be perceived as more advanced than all models of the original Switch. No one expects them to muddle perceptions of its value and significance by pricing it for less than the Switch OLED. Not to mention that it's going to cost Nintendo more on a per unit basis, even if the screen is cheaper (which isn't a given, since the Switch 2's screen is going to be like an inch larger and Nintendo possibly struck some kind of sweetheart deal with Samsung [?] for the OLED's screen).
And I'm not sure what the fact that the OG Switch can sometimes be found on sale has to do with people's expectations for the MSRP of the Switch 2.
They will probably give the OG Switch a price cut eventually, yes, but they haven't yet and they haven't indicated that they plan to before the Switch 2 launches, so that doesn't have much bearing on the Switch 2's launch price.
And literally all of this is tangential to the real question of what consumers *expect* the price to be, and I haven't seen a shred of evidence that more than a tiny minority are even hoping for a $300 price, let alone expecting one. Like I said, every poll, article, influencer, etc. I have encountered is saying between $399 and $499. Now, I do think you could see consumers react incredulously if it ends up on the higher end of that range, but I don't think $399 will elicit any response besides "yeah, OK, that's pretty much what I thought" from most potential buyers.
NeoIkaruGAF
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Sounds about right.
apple_of_enlightenment
Member
Strongly agree. Further, in Shenzhen OLEDs are more prevalent than old fashioned LED displays these days. It may even end up costing more not to go OLED at this point.
Shifty1897
Member
It is barely underperforming vs the PS4 Pro along the same timeframe. The PS4 Pro launched during an economic boom and launched at the same price as the base console while the main console got a price cut.
You knew this, you knew I knew this, you knew I was going to dunk on you if you tried to straw man argue this and you did it anyway. Please help me understand.
ZiggyPop1991
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I get what you're saying. Not a good comparison per se. The pro is literally an optional device upgrade to the already current gen PS5. The Switch 2 in the basement system leading us into Nintendos next next gen. They absolutely want this to be attractive. Now later on they can pull a Sony and do a switch 2 OLED and charge $600 and $650b
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Tiago Rodrigues
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Is it? The console released at 800€ in europe and 700$ in the USA.
MarV0
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PS6 will be $800 minimum unless it has bottom-tier components.
reinking
Gold Member
Sounds serious.
memoryman3
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Dr. Wilkinson
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If there’s anyone who seriously thought the switch 2 wouldn’t cost at least $399, They had completely unrealistic expectations.
The switch OLED model has a lower profit margin for Nintendo at $349 than the original switch at $299, and neither one of them have ever had a price cut. so just consider that for a second, and then think about how little sense it would make for the switch 2 to somehow be even marginally profitable day one, and launch below $400. It ain’t happening. And it was never gonna happen.
The switch OLED model has a lower profit margin for Nintendo at $349 than the original switch at $299, and neither one of them have ever had a price cut. so just consider that for a second, and then think about how little sense it would make for the switch 2 to somehow be even marginally profitable day one, and launch below $400. It ain’t happening. And it was never gonna happen.
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Dr. Wilkinson
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lughnasadh123
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$400 choice is the safest, most sensible pick you could go with. Personally I'm curious to see if they push it up to $500 for the eventual OLED model down the road. $550 OLED w/pack in?
MarV0
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Oh yes they will as they bought the PS5 from scalpers in droves.
Dacvak
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Wild to me that some people thought it would somehow be less than $399. The OLED is STILL $350, so there’s no way the Switch 2 is gonna launch at the price of an end-of-life portable. Even if they lower the price of the OLED.
It’ll be $399 minimum. I’m bracing myself for $499 though.
It’ll be $399 minimum. I’m bracing myself for $499 though.
username12
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Just rip people off on the software instead. They'll pay whatever you charge them.
Deerock71
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Careful. The PC elitists will wipe their shit off with your head since shit doesn't stick to your hair.
Mibu no ookami
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It's interesting how my prediction is now status quo...
Hawk The Slayer
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Not surprised honestly if a mid gen upgrade like the Pro is already overpriced at 700 than 400 for a weaker consoler seems to be on that level.
dragonyeuw
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Quite the going out on a limb there. Can I make a prediction? The next Switch will have 'Nintendo' somewhere on it. Am I hired?
mckmas8808
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Don't toot your horn too early.
mili2110
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Everybody and their mama knows it will be at least 400$. Slow news day for BB.
ChorizoPicozo
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How negative will the narrative around SW2 be if it doesn’t get 100% third-party support, or if third-party AAA games have laughably bad performance and visuals? (especially for the crowd pushing PC Handhelds) 
. Very interesting.
. Very interesting.
blacktout
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How negative will the narrative around SW2 be if it doesn’t get 100% third-party support, or if third-party AAA games have laughably bad performance and visuals? (especially for the crowd pushing PC Handhelds)
The OG Switch has sold over 150 million units while getting probably less than 10% of all third party AAA games and while all the ones it did get were visibly compromised. If the Switch 2 gets, say, 30-40% of current gen AAA games and they just look passable, that would be a huge step up and I think the narrative would reflect that.
It's worth noting that Nintendo has been very quiet about third party support for the Switch 2 so far, possibly even holding their third party partners under NDA until April 2nd, so it's not like they are setting expectations sky high.
kevboard
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How negative will the narrative around SW2 be if it doesn’t get 100% third-party support, or if third-party AAA games have laughably bad performance and visuals? (especially for the crowd pushing PC Handhelds)
I don't think most people will care.
but it will probably have by far the largest third party support of any Nintendo console since the GameCube.
as for the possibility of bad performance,
my hope is that the Switch 2 will lead to developers optimising their games better so that they can be ported to Switch 2.
Many games these days run like ass while not having any features or the looks to justify the bad performance. a low power system with (hopefully) a large install base could shift the focus towards proper optimisation again.
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
That happened with the PS3. Didn't change a thing. People were well aware that $600 was a low price for what they were getting. They were shocked anyway.. these things can't be controlled.
Astray
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People laughed when anyone suggested the Switch 2 was gonna measurably more than 1.
$399-449 is still my prediction too. If they feel they need a price cut they'll introduce a Switch 2 Lite or something.
Mibu no ookami
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I think 450 would be their Icarus moment ala PS3. I think even 400 is going to be a lot for some people to swallow.
The question is going to be how you get these people to all upgrade their Switch. I don't think Mario Kart 9 (with more cars on the track) is enough to do that, but I could be wrong.
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Vaquilla
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$400-450 for Switch 2 isn't really a hard sell at all when the OLED Switch 1 sold great at $350.
The Lunch Legend
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If it's using a Tegra chip set, I expect a $500 minimum.
Astray
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It's going to be largely the same story as the Playstation 5 and Xbox series X/S imo.
The way you convince people is by showing how MK9 is more graphically advanced and can support more racers on screen etc vs 8 and how this enables new ideas from Nintendo alongside garnering more support from 3rd parties that are trying to make a 2nd push for their PS4/Crossgen PS5 games. But you will notice that this is almost exactly Sony's plan, and that plan, while overall financially successful, did not really bear much fruit in terms of user conversion from PS4 to 5.
I don't think Switch 2 will hit the overall heights of Switch 1, but I do think it will improve Nintendo’s profits ala Sony's.
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Mibu no ookami
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Will someone who recently dropped 350 on an OLED Switch drop 450 on a Switch 2? I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of price elasticity.
OLED Switch would have gotten some double dippers and stretch buyers leading to more success, especially when compared in value to the basic Switch.
The equation for Switch 2 is entirely different. There is a reason why consoles don't sell 100 million units in a year and it isn't simply supply constraints.
If Switch 2 is 450 and you have to buy a Pro controller on top of that AND expanded storage... it becomes a much harder sell.
There was a version of the PS3 that was 500 dollars at launch. That's only 200 dollars more than the PS2. Sales were half of the PS2... and there was a very strong argument for upgrading. PS3 included a hard drive which meant better loading times and no need for memory cards, full integration of networking equipment, bluray player, significantly better graphics, wireless controller, with essentially a built in multi-tap... from a technology vs price standpoint, I'm not sure any video game console added more for the price difference, yet it was roasted for its price.
PS2 - 300 dollars
Network adapter + internal hard drive - 144 dollars
Multitap - 35 dollars
8mb memory card - 30 dollars
Already brings you to 509 dollars... didn't include wireless and doesn't factor in bluray or the controller being wireless.
there is almost no chance the switch 2 has a better profit margin than the switch and Nintendo has struggled getting people to upgrade due to graphics their entire existence.
Negotiator101
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What you already knew the price did you?
Fake
Member
Yes. Will be more than $400 or less than $400.
Astray
Member
I meant in the sense that the Switch 2 will lead to increased spending from the hardcore Switch 1 owners. I doubt Sony makes better margins from PS5 than they did PS4 either.
I don't think Nvidia will just let Nintendo skate along without some sort of price premium on its chips. They really hold all the cards now.
The point with the graphics is another issue, Nintendo have spent decades training their fans to not expect graphics and expect ingenuity instead, and yet they've went with what is for all intents and purposes a simple graphical boost of a console. This to me signals weakness and might not portend well for their far future.
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NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
I agree with this, but to be fair, gamers have repeatedly shown they don’t sit well with innovation, and risk-taking is dead for every big publisher.
Astray
Member
True. But Nintendo has a toyetic appeal to the masses. Have you ever seen a kid get excited by a new RC Car that's 1m/s faster than his current one? No.
I also think pricing it at ~$400 means they're essentially asking people to shift to it as their base console of choice ahead of a PS5 or a Series console. Because that price tag is far too expensive to be a secondary device imo.
Negotiator101
Member
So why make out like it's common knowledge?
Fake
Member
Because is a satire. People guessing the price vs A paid journalist guessing the price.
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