‘Nintendo is losing their identity’: Shuhei Yoshida says Switch 2’s focus on power is what other companies would do

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what the dont care bout no gimmicks am a portables player annnnd want switch 2 makes steam deck looks like 3DS


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The Switch 2 can barely run CP2077. If anything they are simply doing their best to keep the best form factor upto some kind of modern standard. OG Switch is running on 2014 tech. Switch 2 is running on 2020 tech.
 
The Switch 2 can barely run CP2077. If anything they are simply doing their best to keep the best form factor upto some kind of modern standard. OG Switch is running on 2014 tech. Switch 2 is running on 2020 tech.
ahaha ps4 pro cant even run phantom liberties annnnd still nort even finished development yet
 
Like others have said. Switch 2 isn't focusing on power at all. Its barely at PS4 levels docked and likely well under that in handheld mode. From Switch 1 to 2 is about from X360 to PS4. One generationnal step, expected.

Switch 1 was actually exactly what he is saying though compared to the excellent 3DS, the last portable console from Nintendo. Switch 1 was not innovative at all. It's a tablet with the worst built-in controllers ever.
 
You people should read the article instead of saying some form of: HEHE SWITCH 2 NOT POWERFUL DUH.

He is saying there's no innovation, it's just a beefed up Switch, which is not what Nintendo is about. It's the same idea with 4K, 120hz. Is that a bad thing? No, not at all. Many or us are happy. But it's bittersweet because it seems like no console has innovated in any meaningful way in the last 10 years.

The Switch 2 is absolutely a powerful machine, it can already do some impressive stuff with Switch 1 games, can't wait to see what can be done with games built just for it.
 
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It's weaker than the ps4 right?
In handheld its weaker from ps4, docked its weaker from ps4pr0 but only in terms of gpu power, it has stronger cpu and much more modern featureset/ssd/more vram so games definitely will look and play better on it, except one thing-resolution since that in particular is highly dependend on raw gpu power.
Think of switch2 vs ps4pr0 like series s vs xbox one x, aka weaker gpu but stronger cpu/ssd and console is much more modern, thats roughly how the difference gonna be between games on those platforms.
 
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Nintendo has never been about raw power since my beloved GameCube, and with the development of the Switch 2, that philosophy hasn't changed one bit. Instead, they've focused on creating a highly efficient piece of hardware that, at long last, can run many multiplatform titles in a much more convincing manner. I honestly don't see how anyone could claim Nintendo has lost its identity; if anything, they're doubling down on it, offering even more meaningful content to their audience.

The Nintendo Switch 2 is a portable powerhouse, not in terms of brute force, but in efficiency and smart design. In the handheld gaming space, it's gonna set a new standard, again.
 
You people should read the article instead of saying some form of: HEHE SWITCH 2 NOT POWERFUL DUH.

He is saying there's no innovation, it's just a beefed up Switch, which is not what Nintendo is about. It's the same idea with 4K, 120hz. Is that a bad thing? No, not at all. Many or us are happy. But it's bittersweet because it seems like no console has innovated in any meaningful way in the last 10 years.

The Switch 2 is absolutely a powerful machine, it can already do some impressive stuff with Switch 1 games, can't wait to see what can be done with games built just for it.

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Like others have said. Switch 2 isn't focusing on power at all. Its barely at PS4 levels docked and likely well under that in handheld mode. From Switch 1 to 2 is about from X360 to PS4. One generationnal step, expected.

Switch 1 was actually exactly what he is saying though compared to the excellent 3DS, the last portable console from Nintendo. Switch 1 was not innovative at all. It's a tablet with the worst built-in controllers ever.
If the leaked clocks are accurate, then it should have around Steam Deck performance in portable mode and perform between the PS4 and PS4 Pro in docked mode. A hypothetical Switch that kept last generation's power profile, would probably have been only around Steam Deck levels in docked mode.
 
He thinks Switch 2 has a focus on power?
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He is thinking outside of the core hobby gamer that spends a lot of time playing videogames and discussing them on niche internet forums. To the masses that will buy a switch they will feel the system has more than enough power as you can get games like Cyberpunk on it. They do not tend to obsess over frame rates and textures.
 
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Now i'm starting to think that sony had a reason to let this guy go.

Focus on power with a tablet must be the joke of the year.
 
It's a Japanese polite way to say that they're making a safe upgrade without innovations and without betting the farm on new gimmicks which has been their identity since DS/Wii.
 
The Switch 2 can barely run CP2077. If anything they are simply doing their best to keep the best form factor upto some kind of modern standard. OG Switch is running on 2014 tech. Switch 2 is running on 2020 tech.
Those of you who say that the switch 2 is outdated because it uses 2020 hardware are aware that the Steam Deck (which was considered the best portable hardware at the time) was released in 2022, and that the switch 2 is more powerful... right?
 
Those of you who say that the switch 2 is outdated because it uses 2020 hardware are aware that the Steam Deck (which was considered the best portable hardware at the time) was released in 2022, and that the switch 2 is more powerful... right?

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Well, he is absolutely right. Switch 2 might not be that powerfull, but what does it bring that is new relative to the Switch? More power. This looks more like a switch pro then a new Nintendo console.
I see no reason to drop 500 euros to upgrade from the Switch.
 
Looking at the prices they ask for the console and the games, i'd say nintendo is on the contrary more faithfull than ever to their identity as money grubbing, gaijin despising japanese supermen, whose sole intent and purpose is to make the keiretsu grow fatter.
 
You people should read the article instead of saying some form of: HEHE SWITCH 2 NOT POWERFUL DUH.

He is saying there's no innovation, it's just a beefed up Switch, which is not what Nintendo is about. It's the same idea with 4K, 120hz. Is that a bad thing? No, not at all. Many or us are happy. But it's bittersweet because it seems like no console has innovated in any meaningful way in the last 10 years.

The Switch 2 is absolutely a powerful machine, it can already do some impressive stuff with Switch 1 games, can't wait to see what can be done with games built just for it.
"Powerful" is subjective.
 
Those of you who say that the switch 2 is outdated because it uses 2020 hardware are aware that the Steam Deck (which was considered the best portable hardware at the time) was released in 2022, and that the switch 2 is more powerful... right?
More powerful when docked, in portable mode not so much. Steam Deck runs at full power when undocked the Switch 2 does not. When both are used portable they are in the same ballpark.

Just to be clear I'm not saying the Switch 2 is outdated or the hardware is bad. But some of the comments regarding the Steam Deck in here are silly.
 
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Those of you who say that the switch 2 is outdated because it uses 2020 hardware are aware that the Steam Deck (which was considered the best portable hardware at the time) was released in 2022, and that the switch 2 is more powerful... right?
Switch 2 is using a 2023 chip though, steam deck using 2021 hardware. 2+ year advantage. plus sw2 likely is using docked mode for some of these comparisons you post
 

what the dont care bout no gimmicks am a portables player annnnd want switch 2 makes steam deck looks like 3DS


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I have no idea wtf you're even trying to say here man no offense. I legitimately am baffled.

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Which were released 1.5 years later at $599 for the base model of both (with the Z1 being used, which barely gets more performance than Steam Deck). The Z1 extreme model goes for $699 in both cases.
annnnd games still not optermized waste my time and monies glad switch 2 gots no gimmicks and I can just play
 
annnnd games still not optermized waste my time and monies glad switch 2 gots no gimmicks and I can just play

The switch 2 has a gimmick and it's the mouse control. That is gimmicky and looks like a hand cramp waiting to happen. I also don't see alot of developers giving a crap about it nor players using it.
 
Switch 2 is using a 2023 chip though, steam deck using 2021 hardware. 2+ year advantage. plus sw2 likely is using docked mode for some of these comparisons you post
That doesn't change the fact that the Switch 2, within the handheld market is far from being outdated or underpowered, in fact in performance/price it is possibly the best.


It's very exhausting how clueless people try to sell their narrative in all the switch 2 threads, and accuse of fanboys those who don't follow their bullshit. In fact I don't even know if I'm going to buy it day 1 because there is no exclusive that appeals to me at launch, but for a forum of enthusiasts it seems absurd this level of fanboyism and lack of truth to fit narratives.
 
The switch 2 has a gimmick and it's the mouse control. That is gimmicky and looks like a hand cramp waiting to happen. I also don't see alot of developers giving a crap about it nor players using it.
So true. It might be alright with certain games. But docked with the new pro controller will be the way to go.
 
Switch 2 is using a 2023 chip though, steam deck using 2021 hardware. 2+ year advantage. plus sw2 likely is using docked mode for some of these comparisons you post
Not even 2021. RDNA2 has been around before current gen consoles launched, and the Zen 2 processor is from 2019.

I'm expecting great things from the more modern architecture in the Switch 2. Nvidia don't build APUs for just anybody, this is an eyebrow raising chip and I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do.
 
Those of you who say that the switch 2 is outdated because it uses 2020 hardware are aware that the Steam Deck (which was considered the best portable hardware at the time) was released in 2022, and that the switch 2 is more powerful... right?
Deck is older, cheaper with much cheaper games and has all the freedom of PC.
 
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I mean, if you spend more than 10 seconds on what he's saying and take out the console warrior thoughts. He's not really wrong. NS2 is a highly iterative product that is essentially "Switch 1 but more POWAAAAH", which Nintendo hasn't really done since the NES -> SNES.

Even the WiiU, while a flop, was trying to sell the idea of dual-screen gaming and tried to innovate even though it mostly was a failure. The NS2 is the absolute safest product they could have made.
 
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