‘Nintendo is losing their identity’: Shuhei Yoshida says Switch 2’s focus on power is what other companies would do

So did the NES, SNES, N64 and Gamecube now exist or something?

You can put an emphasis on the power of a console while also adding new features
 
I think he means there is nothing innovative being brought to the table this gen from nintendo other than a bump in specs.
 
Well, there is/are mouse controls -- which I'm not sure how I'd use those, exactly.

But -- the last time they tried this, it was a) one of my favorite systems and b) not exactly a success. We'll se.
 
robor said:
What are they supposed to do exactly?

Innovate for the sake of hardware innovation? Haven't we reached a ceiling of sorts when it comes to hardware gimmickry?

You could equate the Switch 2 as this generation's SNES (to the NES) and I think that's a good thing. I'm kinda tired of Nintendo always trying to find some kind of hardware gimmick/slant to "justify" their brand of products. This is more true to the original spirit of the company when Yamauchi was president.

It's a good thing that they're focusing more on specs on OS instead of this constant appeal to reel people in to some kind of gimmick that will be half used for the future library of the system.

The Wii is 20 years old already, let's move on.
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Joycons are still a gimmick. amiibos are still a gimmick. Mouse functionality is a gimmick, multi-screen share party chat is a gimmick, mobile phone app loot boxes are a gimmick, Nintendo hasn't completely left gimmicks behind.
 
Almost everyone thinks SNES is the best Nintendo console from a first party quality perspective...and that is the console that is most analogous to Switch 2 in terms of innovation and technology. I personally do not care about the gimmicks.
 
rodrigolfp said:
35 millions of Switches sold on a single country is minuscule how?
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It is when you compare the console market to the rest of the world and further, when you compare the console market in Japan to the overall video game market.

It's the tallest midget who is also shrinking every year. In 2024, the video game console market shrunk by 30%. The Switch 2 will likely help with these declines but mobile and PC gaming continue to grow in the region. Today PC and Mobile gaming in Japan is 10x the console market.

So yeah, "running" seems pretty smart when the region accounts for what it does in terms of overall revenue opportunity.
 
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FingerBang said:
You people should read the article instead of saying some form of: HEHE SWITCH 2 NOT POWERFUL DUH.

He is saying there's no innovation, it's just a beefed up Switch, which is not what Nintendo is about. It's the same idea with 4K, 120hz. Is that a bad thing? No, not at all. Many or us are happy. But it's bittersweet because it seems like no console has innovated in any meaningful way in the last 10 years.

The Switch 2 is absolutely a powerful machine, it can already do some impressive stuff with Switch 1 games, can't wait to see what can be done with games built just for it.
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So the mouse is not innovative enough for a console/handheld hybrid? It's a potential game changer for MANY games, especially when it comes to PC focused games.
 
Nintendo releasing underpowered hardware isn't their identity, what a stupid retard take. And even if it was? Why would anyone want it to be? You can still make well crafted games, at whatever hardware demand you want, it doesn't have to push the switch 2 to it's hardware limit if they didn't want to for whatever creative reason. Competitive hardware however is necessary if they want any even somewhat modern third party games on their hardware.

But I do think Nintendo is in the process of trying to recreate their identity, and you can see it in the trend of 'over emotive' characters in Mario Kart, the Donkey Kong redesign, Mario Wonder. It's an attempt to make the characters seem way more animated and livelier. I think it's not a bad idea, but I do think that they are pushing it too far into over exaggeration to the point it looks bad though.
 
They did the same thing with the Gameboy Advance, and the Snes. Nintendo likes to innovate, but they won't go out of their way to make something weird unless they have to.
 
Nothing worse than innovation for the sake of innovation.

I guess these people grew up with the Wii or something though. Nintendo has always alternated between big swings and iterating on successes. Their best consoles - SNES, GBA and Gamecube are all the latter.
 
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Switch 2 ? Power ? Where ?

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Also, a long time ago in another galaxy, Nintendo always "focused" on "power": SNES, N64, GAMECUBE then the Wii happened...
 
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What focus on power? What is he talking about even?

Let nintendo focus on crafting nintendo games. Nobody does it like them and that's the only reason why I buy their consoles.
 
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He obviously wasn't around back in the NES, SNES, N64 and early GCN if he thinks Nintendo's identity is to stay behind the competition hardware-wise. It's amazing how powerful was the Iwata tenure's brainwashing procedure over the gaming community.
 
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Nintendo isn't losing its identity because they're trying to cram some actual horsepower into their console. They're losing their identity because they've become an ultra-litigious lawsuit factory that produces next to literally nothing of value or innovation, while punishing their long-term fans and actively erasing their own history.

The Switch 2 isn't some sort of ungodly powerhouse, either. It's pretty friggin' mid, which is basically a minimum baseline for staying even remotely competitive. Hogwash.
 
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Losing their identity? Their identity has alway been money hungry backwards tech you pay a premium for. They are stilling a shite cam for $50 they havent lost their identity
 
fallingdove said:
Joycons are still a gimmick. amiibos are still a gimmick. Mouse functionality is a gimmick, multi-screen share party chat is a gimmick, mobile phone app loot boxes are a gimmick, Nintendo hasn't completely left gimmicks behind.
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However in this generation, they're not at the forefront, merely secondary.

The gimmick gravy train has been decommissioned.
 
You can be effective in different ways. The PS3 did too much with the ps move, eye toy, Linux, ps home etc. to me what makes a top 10 console is good performance and the whole package. I thought Wii U was going to be a powerful Wii and here's a second screen without motion controls.
 
LRKD said:
Nintendo releasing underpowered hardware isn't their identity, what a stupid retard take. And even if it was? Why would anyone want it to be? You can still make well crafted games, at whatever hardware demand you want, it doesn't have to push the switch 2 to it's hardware limit if they didn't want to for whatever creative reason. Competitive hardware however is necessary if they want any even somewhat modern third party games on their hardware.

But I do think Nintendo is in the process of trying to recreate their identity, and you can see it in the trend of 'over emotive' characters in Mario Kart, the Donkey Kong redesign, Mario Wonder. It's an attempt to make the characters seem way more animated and livelier. I think it's not a bad idea, but I do think that they are pushing it too far into over exaggeration to the point it looks bad though.
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They've been known for trying new ideas, Switch 2 has zero innovation.
 
Minsc said:
$80 games are not that rare. You can pay $80 for FFXVI right now on Steam, $50 for the base game and another $30 for the DLC.
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Yes you can. But you'd be a moron doing that. With Nintendo games there's no option, and they never go down in price. Still, very poor comparison,
 
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Unknown? said:
They've been known for trying new ideas, Switch 2 has zero innovation.
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I think if you think about it seriously, that's not very true. NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube all pretty much no innovation. Add to that Gameboy, and GBA. Most of their innovation is gimmicks you can largely ignore too. Wii's waggle, nope. 3DS's 3D, turn it the fuck off. Wii U in its entirety, skip. Switch is a hybrid? At what cost, like 3 generations of power? Hah. Switch 2 has a mouse for a controller? Do I need to desk to play games now, nope. Yeah, Nintendo's innovations are not really so innovative when you break them down.
 
DavJay said:
It's weaker than the ps4 right?
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Nankatsu said:
Focus on power? Sure, if you focus on being one generation behind power wise :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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Davevil said:
what power?
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Cyberpunkd said:
This. That thing is the same as Switch, underpowered the moment it comes out.
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AJUMP23 said:
Gambling addiction is real. They like Gambling like I like food. I understand the way it works, have to build the discipline. Japan also needs to get out there find a spouse and have a bunch of kids.
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Syphon Filter said:
switch 2 is weak and outdated, even the series s is more powerful. nintendo fanboys are delusional here.
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ZoukGalaxy said:
Switch 2 ? Power ? Where ?
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Dorago said:
Switch 2 has the resolution target of a $300 Walmart TV. What are they thinking?!
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Nintendo isn't focusing on the power the fans are.

Nintendo will still be Nintendo .

Switch 2 actually gives them room to be more Nintendo with the Camera & dual mouse controller
 
I love yosp, but I just don't see it. There brand identity is stronger than any other players in the market and while their next system is more powerful than the previous, obviously, that isn't their focus.
 
The social features are easy to laugh at, but i think they're important. For a certain audience, that's all new functionality. Looks like the specific features are trying to make online play more like local play. If they can capture that, switch 2 could be a much expanded experience for kids and casuals.
 
It was a bit out of character for Nintendo to brag about Switch 2 having 4K, HDR, and 120 FPS in the Direct. We haven't seen the brag about specs like that since at least the GameCube.
 
MacReady13 said:
So the mouse is not innovative enough for a console/handheld hybrid? It's a potential game changer for MANY games, especially when it comes to PC focused games.
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It's an interesting idea, but far from a game changer. Several consoles have supported Mouse and Keyboards in the past, and it's still the primary control on PC. It pales compared to the innovation we've seen from Nintendo: Analog stick, dual screen, motion controls, hybrid model etc.

That said, I have played Metroid Prime 4 using the mouse function and although the tracking is excellent, by the end of the session my wrist was aching. I think it's going to be great for Mario Maker and strategy games, but not for games that constantly require to press the front buttons. I'd rather have Nintendo add proper mouse support.
 
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