SJRB
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Ghost of Tsushima was never "cutting edge", what the fuck are you talking about?
Ghost of Yoti New Gameplay Trailer
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Ghost of Tsushima was never "cutting edge", what the fuck are you talking about?
ecosse_011172
Gold Member
It is in endless screenshot threads all over the internet because it was so gorgeous, I think that's the point, not that it was using DLSS25.7 and hyperpolartasrization3dcaramba effects.
Looks depressing. Never liked the graphics.
mckmas8808
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That PS4 trailer looked much better than anything I've seen from Yotei till now.
Come on man.....
thatJohann
Member
My goodness this looks so … boring.
Physiognomonics
Member
Thinking about it, I think I know what they have been doing for 5 years: Porting their engine to PC, doing the game on myriads of PC configs then porting it to PS5. That could explain it.
No need to come-on-man him. That was a PS4 game and it's really not far from this except the shorter draw distances.
Jinzo Prime
Member
Decima, same engine that Horizion Forbidden West and Death Stranding 2 used. So the engine has definitely been upgraded since Tsushima.
Edit: Apparently not
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viveks86
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Wut? No. It's not Decima. It's an in-house engine. No name for it as far as I know. Likely overhauled between Infamous and GoT, with incremental, non-RT updates for GoY.
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R6Rider
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People are confusing Sucker Punch and Guerrilla Games for some reason.
viveks86
Member
Ironic, given their strengths and weaknesses are the exact opposite!
Jinzo Prime
Member
I'm honestly shocked by that, I always thought it was made on Decima. Well, that explains some things, at least.
powder
Banned
Whatever it is they need to jettison that shit into the ocean.
viveks86
Member
For a team that is not tech obsessed, it is hard to invest much in an engine after releasing just one game that it was (likely) overhauled for. I fully expect the next one in 2030s, whatever game that is, to go all out on the latest and greatest. They are kind of in the same boat as SSM was. And I fully expect SSM's next one to be a big leap from Ragnarok as well.
With ND, Intergalactic would be incremental, as TLOU 2 already made a big leap from TLOU. But it probably won't be as dated, since TLOU 2 was already amongst the very best for its time.
All this is assuming these studios still want to build industry leading technology. If that fire has somehow been extinguished with budget constraints and lack of leadership, then....
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Jinzo Prime
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Or... they can save time and money by using and contributing to an engine that is already highly advanced, like Decima or Naughty Dog's engine.For a team that is not tech obsessed, it is hard to invest much in an engine after releasing just one game that it was (likely) overhauled for. I fully expect the next one in 2030s, whatever game that is, to go all out on the latest and greatest. They are kind of in the same boat as SSM was. And I fully expect SSM's next one to be a big leap from Ragnarok as well.
With ND, Intergalactic would be incremental, as TLOU 2 already made a big leap from TLOU. But it probably won't be as dated, since TLOU 2 was already amongst the very best for its time.
All this is assuming these studios still want to build industry leading technology. If that fire has somehow been extinguished with budget constraints and lack of leadership, then....
Punished Miku
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100%. Been saying this for a while.
Angry_Megalodon
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I agree with the idea that SP is not marketing this the right way. They should be showing some of the biggest differences from the first game, apart from combat. For example, world exploration.
Besides, the MC has not been introduced in an epic, mysterious or relatable way. If this is a revenge story, you want people engaged before buying the game. I can't understand how they have let the whole conversation about Atsu be hijacked by the wacko VA and social media noise.
Besides, the MC has not been introduced in an epic, mysterious or relatable way. If this is a revenge story, you want people engaged before buying the game. I can't understand how they have let the whole conversation about Atsu be hijacked by the wacko VA and social media noise.
viveks86
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For the next one, perhaps? Migrating assets and scripts is no easy feat. But after a decade, it would make sense to overhaul an engine or jump to a new/existing one that's already keeping up with current standards.
It would be nice to see a few bespoke engines and less consolidation among top tier devs though. It gives each of their games a unique look. They would all start looking same-y otherwise. It's a nice-to-have, so if not reinventing the wheel is what is best for the studio, so be it.
Gambit2483
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Xbox 360 slim
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I mean the first game also isn't that impressive when it comes to graphics. It just has a good art style.
Xbox 360 slim
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Sony literally makes better polished ass creed games and the crowd goes wild.
both Sly 2 and Infamous 2 were a pretty big jump from the first entry like Uncharted 1>2 level, expected more from Sucker Punch technically so kind of disappointed here. If the game at least have some sort of advance GI system it would have help at lot. Still have hope that they will deliver on the gameplay though. I have faith with Nate Fox.
Zathalus
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As I said, similar visual leap like God of War Ragnarok. I've seen enough other videos that the game has graphical upgrades over the first game, so cherry picked YouTube screenshots that are destroyed by compression doesn't really make for a convincing argument. The first game, outside of the artstyle, wasn't some sort of graphical juggernaut either, with some of the worst textures on PS4. So expecting the sequel to be some sort of benchmark for PS5 when most of the rendering budget will be dedicated to the upgraded frame rate and resolution would be setting yourself up for disappointment.New lighting system, better animation, brand new environments that make Yotei look distinct from Tsushima, better looking faces. I expected a generational upgrade. Not this:
The real concern is if the game itself evolves past the safe Ubisoft style gameplay of the first.
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geary
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Well some people consider Ubisoft a single studio, so... what can i say
GoT is "gorgeous" because of its art direction, splashes of very vivid colours in an otherwise realistic and even muted world.
In terms of visual fidelity, the quality of the assets, it was never that impressive.
Fess
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Sorry for bumping up this detour. You can build your own library of others ideas but it really seems to be "wiring" going by science when you're coming up with NEW ideas from creativity.
I googled on it and the popular belief seems to be:
"right brain thinkers"= good creativity and imagination.
"left brain thinkers" = good at logical thinking, analytics, language.
But it's complex and science are still doing research on it. Here's an article:
"Our results suggest that creative people are better able to co-activate brain networks that usually work separately."
New study reveals why some people are more creative than others
Creative people seem to possess a unique connection between three brain networks that typically work separately.
theconversation.com
This was comical:
"For example, in the study, we showed participants different objects on a screen, such as a gum wrapper or a sock, and asked to come up with creative ways to use them. Some ideas were more creative than others. For the sock, one participant suggested using it to warm your feet – the common use for a sock – while another participant suggested using it as a water filtration system."
lmao this is the "blank" people I mentioned earlier. Good luck trying to get a person like that to come up with a new idea for a game or design or anything. Place them to analyze performance data to better optimize the engine instead.
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ecosse_011172
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As we recently saw with Donkey Kong, some trailers don't show off how great a game is so I'll stay optimistic.
Unfortunatecookie
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They've sprinkled bad talent all over the creative side of that company.
How they got to this point is a motherfucking mystery.
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truly limits the combat. that shit feels so cookie cutter because of it
apocaliptic
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Boring like every game from this studio.
Danjin44
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I personally liked their Sly Cooper and InFAMOUS series….I just don't care for their Ghost games because they went Ubisoft route.
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powder
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I just think if Sony is going to pride themselves on making amazing looking games and being the platform of really exceptional first party shit, they need to get ALL their fucking studios up to visual parity with eachother. Especially when they're all (unfortunately) making these faux-realistic uncanny valley style games. I can appreciate a studio that excels in mechanics or style or story, but if the game looks like shit compared to their other studios it makes it even more obvious how inconsistent their studios' output can be.For a team that is not tech obsessed, it is hard to invest much in an engine after releasing just one game that it was (likely) overhauled for. I fully expect the next one in 2030s, whatever game that is, to go all out on the latest and greatest. They are kind of in the same boat as SSM was. And I fully expect SSM's next one to be a big leap from Ragnarok as well.
With ND, Intergalactic would be incremental, as TLOU 2 already made a big leap from TLOU. But it probably won't be as dated, since TLOU 2 was already amongst the very best for its time.
All this is assuming these studios still want to build industry leading technology. If that fire has somehow been extinguished with budget constraints and lack of leadership, then....
I didn't even play the latest Assassin's Creed game, but even just seeing all the trailers, etc. it feels like it's outpacing this game visually which is a shame.
powder
Banned
That's the weird part, it should look great in the "hub" areas like towns, but it actually looks better in the more vast open areas you see on horseback. It seems backwards to me.
ecosse_011172
Gold Member
It will 100% look shitloads better than the screenshots in this thread.
ChorizoPicozo
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and it will underperform
ecosse_011172
Gold Member
nial
Gold Member
Tsushima was not an enormous seller, it'll be fine.
Vlodril
Member
What ? It did 20m+ if i remember correctly.
nial
Gold Member
13m+ as of September 2024.
SJRB
Gold Member
"Not an enormous seller" he says, lmao.
There are about 40 games ever released that sold more than 13 million copies. Ghost of Tsushima was an absolute banger and is in the 99.99th percentile in terms of sales numbers.
nial
Gold Member
You're right, I was relatively speaking of the rest of heavy hitters by Sony, tho I probably undersold it.
Fabieter
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Especially for a new ip. Normally you would put up the budget tremendously after such a success.
Msamy
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Instead their don't even bother themselves to reach even the quality of Tsushima E3 2018 gameplay which they didn't achieve it on ps4
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