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[ecosse_011172]

Especially for a new ip. Normally you would put up the budget tremendously after such a success.

Which I imagine happened.
We'll see the results soon.

 

[Fabieter]

Instead their don't even bother themselves to reach even the quality of toshima E3 2018 gameplay which they didn't achieve it on ps4

Maybe SP also had a gaas game cancelled and they had to put he sequel faster together than they normally would have done.

 

[Msamy]

Maybe SP also had a gaas game cancelled and they had to put he sequel faster together than they normally would have done.

Yes expect anything thing from sony bullshit management this gen

 

[Fabieter]

Which I imagine happened.
We'll see the results soon.

So sony will undersell the game until its released?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Tsushima was not an enormous seller, it'll be fine.

that's underperforming

 

[Ar¢tos]

that's underperforming

Sony has jumped on the "engagement" bandwagon, so sales are no longer relevant.

 

[Fabieter]

Sony has jumped on the "engagement" bandwagon, so sales are no longer relevant.

Well a day one ps+ release could definitely do those gameplay videos justice. So they can have their "engagement"!

 

[Vlodril]

13m+ as of September 2024.

You are right. I think also it's the second time someone corrects me on the matter but my brain won't retain the info.. Still pretty fantastic sales for a new ip.

 

[ecosse_011172]

So sony will undersell the game until its released?

Not sure, you'd imagine there will be better trailers when people are back from holiday to take the work back off the intern

 

[Fabieter]

Not sure, you'd imagine there will be better trailers when people are back from holiday to take the work back off the intern

Sony isnt as focused on graphics as they used to.

Imo The only technically impressive 1p games were demons souls remake and HFW.

 

[Msamy]

Sony isnt as focused on graphics as they used to.

Imo The only technically impressive 1p games were demons souls remake and HFW.

Sad fact but true

 

[ecosse_011172]

Sony isnt as focused on graphics as they used to.

Imo The only technically impressive 1p games were demons souls remake and HFW.

And TLOU and Ratchet and Clank and.....

Anyway, they're not going to, at a time of financial strength, produce a sequel to an incredibly successful new IP that is technically inferior to it's predecessor from the previous generation.

 

[Fabieter]

And TLOU and Ratchet and Clank and.....

Anyway, they're not going to, at a time of financial strength, produce a sequel to an incredibly successful new IP that is technically inferior to it's predecessor from the previous generation.

I actually forgot about ratchet and clank. That one was impressive too yes.

No not inferior, but its pretty much on par. It has dlc vibes all over.

 

[nial]

that's underperforming

Weird, they were just telling me above that it was actually pretty fantastic.

Sony has jumped on the "engagement" bandwagon, so sales are no longer relevant.

Well a day one ps+ release could definitely do those gameplay videos justice. So they can have their "engagement"!

Sony apparently forgot that they don't need to report hardware shipments and software unit sales anymore, lol.

 

[ecosse_011172]

I actually forgot about ratchet and clank. That one was impressive too yes.

No not inferior, but its pretty much on par. It has dlc vibes all over.

I imagine It'll look better but maybe not "best in class".
Definitely not a PS3 game despite the crazy talk ITT.

 

[Fabieter]

I imagine It'll look better but maybe not "best in class".
Definitely not a PS3 game despite the crazy talk ITT.

Didn't know the first entry was ps3 though.

It will look alright. It's just weird they are selling this aa game for 80 euros.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Didn't know the first entry was ps3 though.

It will look alright. It's just weird they are selling this aa game for 80 euros.

There quite a few "Ps3 level" references in the thread.

80 is the new normal, sadly

 

[GymWolf]

The Game is about art style not graphics like the Souls games.

It looks good in general and great on the Open world landscapes.

Edit: my bad

 

[Fabieter]

There quite a few "Ps3 level" references in the thread.

80 is the new normal, sadly

Imo it looks basically on par with GOT.

No for budget titles its not normal. And this doesn't look aaa to me.

 

[nial]

He's saying that, similar to Souls games, the game focuses on art direction over graphical fidelity.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Imo it looks basically on par with GOT.

No for budget titles its not normal. And this doesn't look aaa to me.

Calling this a budget title is just silly.

 

[GymWolf]

He's saying that, similar to Souls games, the game focuses on art direction over graphical fidelity.

i thought i was going crazy

 

[powder]

He's saying that, similar to Souls games, the game focuses on art direction over graphical fidelity.

Souls games by and large look like shit. I'm not seeing anything about this game that screams creative "art direction" at all.

Shit, they could've stripped out all hi-res textures and went more cartoonish with insane lighting and it would be more impressive.

 

[Fabieter]

Calling this a budget title is just silly.

Running the same graphics as five years ago is kinda cheap imo.

 

[nial]

Souls games by and large look like shit. I'm not seeing anything about this game that screams creative "art direction" at all.

Shit, they could've stripped out all hi-res textures and went more cartoonish with insane lighting and it would be more impressive.

a'ight

 

[Karim]

Because Nioh is actually challenging.
Judging by the last video, This game you can play while scrolling on the phone at the same time, since enemies just stand there waiting for their turn to die.
This is made for modern audiences with very little attention spans.

I mean you ever played the first? Because it's not absolutely as you said.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Running the same graphics as five years ago is kinda cheap imo.

I think when the game is released you'll see that's not the case.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Souls games by and large look like shit.

 

[Fabieter]

I think when the game is released you'll see that's not the case.

Its not the first ps5 exclusive with underwhelming graphics this gen so I dont think I will be surprised technically.

If its a half decent game I will borrow it from a friend. No way I spend money on this after the poor showings.

 

[Danny22]

Always kind of funny that demon souls, the first souls game, is going to look the best souls game likely even when the next gen launches.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Its not the first ps5 exclusive with underwhelming graphics this gen so I dont think I will be surprised technically.

If its a half decent game I will borrow it from a friend. No way I spend money on this after the poor showings.

So, because the trailers are underwhelming, no way will you buy this, no matter how good the actual released product is?
Solid logic, my friend.

 

[powder]

Come on man, don't be disingenuous - the original Souls trilogy looked like dog shit. I like those games, too. The Demon's Souls remake looks fantastic but I wasn't referring to that one.

 

[Denton]

Just watched the vids in OP.

This looks barely like DLC. Coupled with lame protag and certain fatigue of the checklist open worlds, it will take years before I will want to even try this.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Come on man, don't be disingenuous - the original Souls trilogy looked like dog shit. I like those games, too. The Demon's Souls remake looks fantastic but I wasn't referring to that one.

Hard disagree, Dark Souls 3 is a 2016 game and looked great.

 

[mckmas8808]

Thinking about it, I think I know what they have been doing for 5 years: Porting their engine to PC, doing the game on myriads of PC configs then porting it to PS5. That could explain it.

No need to come-on-man him. That was a PS4 game and it's really not far from this except the shorter draw distances.

Are we looking at the same videos?

 

[GymWolf]

That's a bluepoint remaster, graphically wise, fromsoft games are a generation behind.

 

[Fabieter]

So, because the trailers are underwhelming, no way will you buy this, no matter how good the actual released product is?
Solid logic, my friend.

Why? I have other stuff to play in October and if the product cheaps out why would I still buy it?

 

[Karim]

Decima, same engine that Horizion Forbidden West and Death Stranding 2 used. So the engine has definitely been upgraded since Tsushima.

Edit: Apparently not

Like no? Where did you read it's decima engine? From what I know it's the own engine of SP.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The Ghosts franchise is one that looks good based on art style and bold colours. Watch any long videos on YT and the gameplay is actually very generic, dumb as rocks AI and the lip syncing is as bad as the 360/PS3 days of gaming.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Like no? Where did you read it's decima engine? From what I know it's the own engine of SP.

Yes, I am now aware of that, which is why I added the edit. I thought I read somewhere that Ghost ran on Decima, but that isn't the case.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Why? I have other stuff to play in October and if the product cheaps out why would I still buy it?

you wrote "If its a half decent game I will borrow it from a friend. No way I spend money on this after the poor showings."

The don't understand your point, it's not really making sense.

 

[Fabieter]

you wrote "If its a half decent game I will borrow it from a friend. No way I spend money on this after the poor showings."

The don't understand your point, it's not really making sense.

I don't want to pay for a game that looks last-gen, but if it turns out to be innovative against all odds, I'll consider to play it without paying for it tough. Whats the problem?

 

[TaciturnWolf]

Always kind of funny that demon souls, the first souls game, is going to look the best souls game likely even when the next gen launches.

We should've gotten a Dark Souls remake by now.

 

[ecosse_011172]

I don't want to pay for a game that looks last-gen, but if it turns out to be innovative against all odds, I'll consider to play it without paying for it tough. Whats the problem?

It doesn't make any sense.
If it turns out to be a great game and looks much better than you currently expect, you want to play it, why would you be so determined to not pay for it?

 

[Fabieter]

It doesn't make any sense.
If it turns out to be a great game and looks much better than you currently expect, you want to play it, why would you be so determined to not pay for it?

We already have a pretty good idea how's its gonna look and they deepdived into the gameplay aspects.

It looks like a less impressive version of assassin's creed shadows. It might be worth a playthrough but definitely not to pay money.

 

[Branded]

So this game is dead huh, Gaf?

 

[Embearded]

We already have a pretty good idea how's its gonna look and they deepdived into the gameplay aspects.

It looks like a less impressive version of assassin's creed shadows. It might be worth a playthrough but definitely not to pay money.

I respectfully disagree.

 

[Physiognomonics]

So this game is dead huh, Gaf?

Not likely. but like all the others big Playstation games it will sell about half of the previous game... while it costed a lot more to make than the previous outing.

 

[Memati187]

We should've gotten a Dark Souls remake by now.

Demon souls is the original dark souls so...

 

[SJRB]

So this game is dead huh, Gaf?

Not at all but the online sentiment is nowhere near what it should/could be considering it's a sequel to a megahit.