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PlayStation 5 getting price increases in America starting tomorrow Aug 21

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I personally don't think any console maker is happy to increase hardware prices at this point as it just slows adoption and software sales and that'll come to bite them in the future. But they also don't appear to be willing to lose money on hardware anymore. Whether that is "need" or "desire" i honestly don't know, it feels like a very superficial question. They could certainly eat all the costs and stay afloat, but that goes against what a corporation stands for and I would not expect them to.

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She's been under the knife a lot since I last saw her it seems.

Dream woman for some on her I suspect.
 
Humans still make decisions.
Sure, collectively. Working at a big corp myself, there's no malice or greed when seemingly evil decisions are being made. Just tons of different department that have no idea what they're doing and can't cooperate with each other properly to save their lives. And we're very profitable too, so profitable you'd think there was a masterplan in motion. But there isn't.
 
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It isn't about need. You're asking a company to voluntarily give up profits they wouldn't otherwise have to. Which is just retarded.

If they were gonna make 100 million in a quarter and now they're only gonna make 75 million, why should the company and the shareholders eat that? It's not greed it's just capitalism.

Shareholders want their profits even if Sony's customers have to pay more. Sounds like greed to me. But since when are stockholders not greedy?
 
Sure, collectively. Working at a big corp myself, there's no malice or greed when seemingly evil decisions are being made. Just tons of different department that have no idea what they're doing and can't cooperate with each other properly to save their lives. And we're extremely profitable to boot, so profitable you'd think there was a masterplan in motion. But there isn't.
And useless bastard middle management desperate to prove their worth.
 
Shareholders want their profits even if Sony's customers have to pay more. Sounds like greed to me. But since when are stockholders not greedy?
I mean, technically I agree with you that greed is involved, but literally every publicly owned company operates on this metric. Almost none of them are going to eat it, so you've got to attribute it instead to the system we are all forced to operate within 🤷‍♂️
 
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A global killer disease will do that to the world's economy. It totally sucks.



Yeah ain't no way. Sorry HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 but it aren't happening now LOL!



PREACH! Say it again for the people in the back. They don't understand.
The desease was bad enough but some of the decisions made totally contributed for the economy collapse.. it didnt needed to be this bad. But this is an old discussion... not much point in having it again ...
 
Sure, collectively. Working at a big corp myself, there's no malice or greed when seemingly evil decisions are being made. Just tons of different department that have no idea what they're doing and can't cooperate with each other properly to save their lives. And we're very profitable too, so profitable you'd think there was a masterplan in motion. But there isn't.

Hiroki Totoki makes the decisions for SIE. That's not a collective.
 
Sure, collectively. Working at a big corp myself, there's no malice or greed when seemingly evil decisions are being made. Just tons of different department that have no idea what they're doing and can't cooperate with each other properly to save their lives. And we're very profitable too, so profitable you'd think there was a masterplan in motion. But there isn't.

I understand what you are saying but in this case it was Mr. XX deciding: "Let's increase prices!" despite having option not to do that.

For US tariffs absolutely can be blamed but what about rest of the world? What is the reason for price increases in Europe few months ago?
 
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Hiroki Totoki makes the decisions for SIE. That's not a collective.
I don't think it's that simple. It's not like a CEO knows everything and just gives orders. He's given numbers by different departments and spends several hours in meetings being consulted about things he doesn't know or needs to take into account. He just has the final word, but the decision is shaped by everyone involved.
 
You aren't wrong but that's not the entire story either.

While prices wouldn't go back down a lot of them wouldn't have gone up in the first place so the people blaming the big orange retard and tariffs aren't wrong.
My point is exactly this .. tariffs are probably not the "entire" story ... so lets blame tariffs and completely absolve company greed ? ... dosent work for me sorry.
 
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I understand what you are saying but in this case it was Mr. XX deciding: "Let's increase prices!" despite having option not to do that.

For US tarries absolutely can be blamed but what about rest of the world? What is the reason for price increases in Europe few months ago?
Also tarrifs, sharing the joy
 
I understand what you are saying but in this case it was Mr. XX deciding: "Let's increase prices!" despite having option not to do that.

For US tarries absolutely can be blamed but what about rest of the world? What is the reason for price increases in Europe few months ago?
I'm no expert in economics, but my understanding is that instead of increasing a price severely to a single (important) region, companies tend to spread the increase out worldwide so we all suffer. Whether that was really the reason for the previous increase I don't know, but I really don't think increasing hardware prices at this point in the generation comes without an important reason as it'll come back to bite them later as I've said before.
 
Also tarrifs, sharing the joy

I'm no expert in economics, but my understanding is that instead of increasing a price severely to a single (important) region, companies tend to spread the increase out worldwide so we all suffer. Whether that was really the reason for the previous increase I don't know, but I really don't think increasing hardware prices at this point in the generation comes without an important reason as it'll come back to bite them later as I've said before.

Looks like Sony want to suck customers dry and see where is the limit. So far it's working great! Record profits etc.
 
It's simple chuds, Trump's tariffs were so bad that they retroactively went back in time and caused Sony to up the PS5 price back in 2022 so that's his fault too!
 
It's simple chuds, Trump's tariffs were so bad that they retroactively went back in time and caused Sony to up the PS5 price back in 2022 so that's his fault too!
It's almost like there was a global event 5 years ago that caused massive worldwide supply line issues and inflation.

At this point you're just arguing in bad faith.
 
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Sony: *record profits for years*
Sony: Sorry folks, we have no choice but to raise prices.
Sony: *declares PS5 the most profitable generation in history*
Sony: Ooof sorry everyone, we gotta raise our prices. We're hurting just like you are.
Sony: *decalres the PS5 has made more profits than all other console generations combined*
Sony: Oh man, sorry, but we gotta raise prices again. We're barely holding on. I wish there was something we could do.

They're gonna crash this whole industry through sheer fucking greed.
 
The question would be, does the PS5 make a profit? If after the tarrifs it doesn't, then a price increase is pretty much unavoidable as I don't think any company is willing to sell their hardware at a loss anymore regardless of quarterly profits.
You're right, but considering just two months ago we were told that the PS5 is more profitable than all of Sony's other consoles combined, I have doubts that the tariffs will dent their profits that hard.
 
Playstations full-year operating profit jumped 43% this year. Keep sucking their dick, sheep-boys. Instead of calling out corporate greed, let's get our shots in at Orange-man-bad.

Or Orange-man is bad. Take the dick out and realize that it's not just VIDEOGAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You'll start seeing the price of items go up in Home Depot, Walmart, etc too. But keep on Console Warring bro.

I bet you didn't even realize that Sony finally paying off that horrible Bungie purchase is one of the reasons their profit margins went up this year. But for some reason the should eat the lost profits due to tariffs just because...........
 
I don't think it's that simple. It's not like a CEO knows everything and just gives orders. He's given numbers by different departments and spends several hours in meetings being consulted about things he doesn't know or needs to take into account. He just has the final word, but the decision is shaped by everyone involved.

Sure....they gather information from their department heads but ultimately the CEO makes a decision.
 
You're a mad dumb fuck.

Nothing - that's literally my point

Q1 earnings have everything to do with the need or lack thereof when it comes to adjusting prices



Oh Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo greedy! Bad company! *smacks back on hand*

It's simple chuds, Trump's tariffs were so bad that they retroactively went back in time and caused Sony to up the PS5 price back in 2022 so that's his fault too!

What else was going on in the world in 2022?................Hmmmm............if only any of us could remember of a world-wide shortage of electronic components. It's almost like there was some global event that happened to literally kills 1,000s of people everyday or something.
 

Oh Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo greedy! Bad company! *smacks back on hand*



What else was going on in the world in 2022?................Hmmmm............if only any of us could remember of a world-wide shortage of electronic components. It's almost like there was some global event that happened to literally kills 1,000s of people everyday or something.
the amount of corpo dick sucking you and others do is astounding

I don't really see it elsewhere

to some on this board, corps can never do wrong because "CAPITALISM@!!&/$!!!!!"
 
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Sure....they gather information from their department heads but ultimately the CEO makes a decision.
Yeah, I think we're saying the same thing. The CEO has the final say, after information and advice has been collectively gathered. In this case, it could very well be that Totoki did not directly say "increase the price to X amount" but he merely said "find a way not to lose profits next quarter" and all the departments collaborated and came with this price increase suggestion which he approved. Had they come up with a different suggestions, we might be looking at a different outcome right now. I think it's always a group effort even if a single person has the final say, he couldn't have come up with everything himself.
 
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Shareholders want their profits even if Sony's customers have to pay more. Sounds like greed to me. But since when are stockholders not greedy?

Why should any company or shareholder eat lost profits because any President or Prime Minister decides to increases prices via tariffs? You can't believe that's fair can you? Even if that company can afford to eat those lost profits.

The desease was bad enough but some of the decisions made totally contributed for the economy collapse.. it didnt needed to be this bad. But this is an old discussion... not much point in having it again ...

Agreed! There were bad decisions made. And sadly humans will always make dumb decisions, especially when a killer global disease is killing 1000s of people per day in one country alone.
 
Why should any company or shareholder eat lost profits because any President or Prime Minister decides to increases prices via tariffs? You can't believe that's fair can you? Even if that company can afford to eat those lost profits.

Why should consumers have to pay more? Is that fair?
 
Didn't the PS5 go up in price like 3 or 4 months ago in many other regions of the world except the US?
Listen, if you want to have common sense, this thread is not for you. Trumps a retard, corporations are greedy, and people still think it was actually covid that killed a lot of people. That is what I have learned from this thread, oh and somehow fake tits got bigger.
 
the amount of corpo dick sucking you and others do is astounding

I don't really see it elsewhere

to some on this board, corps can never do wrong because "CAPITALISM@!!&/$!!!!!"

Target and Walmart are rising prices too due to tariffs. Is that more corpo dick sucking? Or am I just exposing the truth? Looks to me like the truth hurts.

The bellends just love to platform war.
Best thing is to just ignore them.
They're looking for a rise.
I don't know why you bother with them

Bro.....you are extremely correct. They must be looking for a rise. It just kills me that people never wanted to believe that these tariffs would lead to price increases. It's literally one of the things that tariffs are designed to do. You enact them to decrease demand for your said agenda.

I probably shouldn't bother with them anymore.
 
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50 dollars seems about right. I think they went up around £30 in the UK a while ago?
There was a price rise in April but only to the digital edition which accounts for a small proportion of PS5s sold, 20% if I remember correctly. The economically illiterate saw this as Sony making foreigners pay for Trumps tarrifs. The more likely answer is that it was planned earlier due to digital attach rates not justifying the discount over the disc version.

The RRP of the standard version is £400 before VAT (which is a pretty heavy 20% compared to a weighted average of 7.5% in the states). That's $540, only marginally less than your price before sales tax. But still, normally we're worse off.

Interestingly, not long after the April price rise there was a supplier driven sale, taking the price down to £329 at all retailers I could see. My interpretation of that was that US channels were stuffed to beat the tariffs, which left a need to shift later production outside the US.
 
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O predicted price increase for Pro few months ago

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Really, bragging about this? Everyone knew this was happening. Especially right after both Xbox and Switch got price increases for the same reason.

I'm going to post on the weather forum to.orrow, "The sun came up today. Who called it? That's right. Me!"
 
You're right, but considering just two months ago we were told that the PS5 is more profitable than all of Sony's other consoles combined, I have doubts that the tariffs will dent their profits that hard.

The PS5 *platform* is the most profitable ever, but I highly doubt they are making much whatsoever off of the hardware.

On the other hand look at the first few years of PS3 to see what heavily subsidizing hardware does to the bottom-line!
 
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