Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

Twitter is the most toxic thing imaginable right now.

I don't know how pilled one way or another you have to be to not see it as the giant fucking psyop it is.

Nobody speaks in good faith on there. I'm not even sure they are real people.
The worst is reddit, a true hellhole
 
I mean the Secret Service nearly let Trump get killed just last year. The quality of security for public figures is kind of appalling and there needs to quite literally be a revolution in how security is handled and how seriously is it taken. They didn't take security seriously at all last year in Butler and that has to change

There were protestors waiting for Trump inside a restaurant a few days ago, They need to step up security bigly
 
so it's not just americans who have gone insane. good to know.
I mean, the US has these kinds of super divisive decades that lead to political violence every now and then but Europe was literally forged in that shit, it's only in recent times due to the flawed but still miraculous feat that is the EU that peace and level-headedness has become the norm because killing politicians and the likes ain't nothing new for them really. I haven't looked it up so I'm pulling this out of my ass but I wouldn't be surprised at all if political killings post-WW2 in europe are still tenfold the ones in the US.
 
Thanks. Been working like crazy, didn't see it.
his family friend recognized him, and told his dad. he then confessed to his dad who turned him in. the dad kept him until the authorities arrived or he wouldve probably shot himself.

i feel bad for his dad. seemed like a good conservative family so its not like he grew up in a broken home. he was radicalized online. we all need to learn from this. we might be too smart to get radicalized but our kids are in grave danger. especially nowadays when you dont have to go to 4chan or some anonymous dark internet website because twitter and tiktok are promoting all these guys on mainstream social media apps.
 
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The guy is alive (for now) so undoubtedly he will get to make his statement about his motives.

Unless he's the wrong guy, I guess, or runs with a "not guilty" plea.

I'm guessing he will go with "Guilty" to AVOID the death penalty charge. Hopefully this side-steps a circus trial and just gets this guy out of our lives for the next 60 years.
 
The worst is reddit, a true hellhole

Meh.
Reddit is silo'd off. Left has taken over most subs... the right has their own that they regularly shut down to outsiders.

Worst case is you post something people hate and they downvote you into oblivion.



Twitter is a full on doom-scrolling tunnel of hell. It's an assault on your mind and any good sense.


Don't get me wrong.. I actually love twitter in some respects. I love how LIVE it is when things break. But good lord is it a cesspool.
 
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The guy is alive (for now) so undoubtedly he will get to make his statement about his motives.

Unless he's the wrong guy, I guess, or runs with a "not guilty" plea.

I'm guessing he will go with "Guilty" to AVOID the death penalty charge. Hopefully this side-steps a circus trial and just gets this guy out of our lives for the next 60 years.
I don't think he's avoiding the death penalty, though. They seem pretty intent on it.
 
Literally some Discord edgelord college kid.

See. You can't just start calling people nazis and fascists and not expect someone to take it seriously and go fucking shoot them. If you dehumanize people and equivocate them to literal nazis, then you think they deserve to die. Period.
 
Literally some Discord edgelord college kid.

See. You can't just start calling people nazis and fascists and not expect someone to take it seriously and go fucking shoot them. If you dehumanize people and equivocate them to literal nazis, then you think they deserve to die. Period.

Nazi's were humans..

Never forget that Nazi's were regular people.
 
Nazi's were humans..

Never forget that Nazi's were regular people.
Yes. But there was a whole war based on those people and the justification to kill them because Nazis really were fascists that were mass killing others. So maybe we shouldn't label a more typical, right wing Christian political commentator, who holds the same beliefs as millions of other Americans, as a "fascist" and wanting to genocide everyone. Turns out that enough monstering of your political opponents can lead to mental cases like this kid thinking he's doing the world a favor by removing the "next hitler".
 
Stephen King is old man...they need to let it go. Mistakes happen, still an icon and legendary author of our time
That was no mistake. He had his notion of who Charlie was and so he just accepted that OF COURSE a guy like Charlie would advocate stoning gays to death, not need to question it or think twice because wow it seems like a pretty outlandish position for a young person in 2025.

Apologizing is just his legal/PR team snatching the phone out of his trembling hands hoping to avoid a crushing civil lawsuit for slander and you can already see he is bitter about having to do it..
 
That was no mistake. He had his notion of who Charlie was and so he just accepted that OF COURSE a guy like Charlie would advocate stoning gays to death, not need to question it or think twice because wow it seems like a pretty outlandish position for a young person in 2025.

Apologizing is just his legal/PR team snatching the phone out of his trembling hands hoping to avoid a crushing civil lawsuit for slander and you can already see he is bitter about having to do it..

I have a feeling when we become 70+, we'll all suffer from some form of dementia in varying degrees. Can't take what boomers say too seriously
 
Stephen King is old man...they need to let it go. Mistakes happen, still an icon and legendary author of our time
i saw the same clip and it was immediately obvious that he was quoting from the bible. You would expect a legendary author to have some reading (listening) comprehension.

maybe Stephen king shouldve taken it up with God.
 
Fucking hell man. This generation have no values or morals whatsoever. I guess that's what almost a century without a world war/relatively peaceful time causes on people.
"I don't know about his positions, but he was controversial so yeah, he deserved it a little bit."

JFC the muslim apocalypse can't come for them fast enough :P
 
This thread moves fast, not sure if posted. Stephen King gets called out for spreading Kirk lies…..


Fuck him. He tweeted something vulgar only cause Charlie was a republican. It is fucks like King who have fostered division and created hate between people in the States and now worldwide. It was a shameful thing to say yet these fuckers consistently do it to this very moment. People thinking Charlie Kirk's assassination will bring some peace are wrong when dumb fucks like King spread bullshit like this.
 
Meh.
Reddit is silo'd off. Left has taken over most subs... the right has their own that they regularly shut down to outsiders.

Worst case is you post something people hate and they downvote you into oblivion.



Twitter is a full on doom-scrolling tunnel of hell. It's an assault on your mind and any good sense.


Don't get me wrong.. I actually love twitter in some respects. I love how LIVE it is when things break. But good lord is it a cesspool.
You're right, at least I know I can ignore most of Reddit, since it's heavily censored by the left, I usually only go there when I'm searching about things I am interested on Google.
In the last days twitter is a war zone, sometimes it's better to just avoid all social media and take a break, there's too much doom and gloom.
 
The guy is alive (for now) so undoubtedly he will get to make his statement about his motives.

Unless he's the wrong guy, I guess, or runs with a "not guilty" plea.

I'm guessing he will go with "Guilty" to AVOID the death penalty charge. Hopefully this side-steps a circus trial and just gets this guy out of our lives for the next 60 years.
Ideology is not what drives these people. Their "ideology" is a mishmash of random shit they find online. These people are disaffected, confused, and angry.

You're right, at least I know I can ignore most of Reddit, since it's heavily censored by the left, I usually only go there when I'm searching about things I am interested on Google.
In the last days twitter is a war zone, sometimes it's better to just avoid all social media and take a break, there's too much doom and gloom.
Why not go to conservative subreddits?
 
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Touched in the head college student. Shocker. What we do know is that his ammo had 'Fascist' writings on it, so he bought into that leftist rhetoric.

With the recent political violence I hope this isn't a sign we're reverting to the 60's.
 
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If you label anyone who disagrees with you a Nazi, then you are giving a permission slip to anyone to kill them and feel justified doing it. That is the reason they do it.

Most of the people who went and defeated the actual Nazis would themselves be labelled Nazis by the modern left. If you told the average WW2 American soldier the set of beliefs he had to pretend to hold to avoid being labeled a Nazi in 2025 America he would think you had lost your mind.
 
Kirk just wanted to bridge the gap between the sides with open dialogue, not start a civil war. Hopefully that'll be possible some day. I have no idea where America will go from here though.
If you take a look at the numbers though, instead of people trying to get along, they are literally uprooting their family and making states bluer or redder. I think the division would be a hell of a lot worse if housing costs were reasonable. Even if you are blue in a red state or red in a blue state (hell in wa state the housing prices are wtfbbq) you can't move if you can't afford it. Does this open people up to radicalism when you are mentally unstable or easily influenced stewing a sea of opposition to your beliefs and ideas?

United we stand, divided we fall.

Even when the country "came together" after 9/11, how long did it take to start dividing us again?

I think the only way we are coming together would be another scenario only much worse.
 
So, so many young women say he deserved to die.

I'm not saying he deserved to die - he didn't. I didn't agree with his positions, but I absolutely support freedom of speech.

At the same time, it seems obvious to me if someone makes it their profession to go around saying highly inflammatory things like we should force minors who've been raped to deliver their rapist's children, that is something that some people (especially women) will take personally. The person saying this stuff is making themselves a target for crazies.

I don't see this any different than the left-wing trolls who were saying the government should force COVID vaccines on every person who refused to get one voluntarily. There have been plenty of people on the right threatening violence if they were forced into taking a vaccine. If there were a prominent left-wing speaker saying that in public, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they got shot like Kirk did.

Make yourself a target, and it's not surprising you get attacked.

Again, it's not right. It's wrong on every level. I'm just not surprised that this happened given Kirk's comments over the years.
 
Ideology is not what drives these people. Their "ideology" is a mishmash of random shit they find online. These people are disaffected, confused, and angry.


Why not go to conservative subreddits?
I don't like echo chambers where everyone agree with each other. At least on X there's more interaction with different opinions, but in the last days everyone is screaming and insulting each other.
 
So, so many young women say he deserved to die.

Because he doesn't believe they should be able to murder their children.

I'd hate to be dating age in 2025, 85% of the women my son's age are completely fucked in the head, all on antidepressants, believe abortion is a valid form of contraception and immoral behaviour is liberating.
 
Fucking hell man. This generation have no values or morals whatsoever. I guess that's what almost a century without a world war/relatively peaceful time causes on people.

It has always been like this. You don't think we would have seen the same thing if we had social media and message boards when Martin Luther King was assassinated from a certain crowd? Come on, you're like my wife and her mother talking about how the end times are coming cause evil keeps winning more and more. It's always been here.
 
I am confused by how certain several of you seem to be in this thread about the guys motives. The more I hear about him, the more confused I get - and the more it seems he is a very splintered internet nihilist kind of guy (quite similar to what we know about the trump shooter).

Personally, I would not be able to put him on the left right scale at this point.
 
If all these journalists are out here just lying then why isn't there some attempt to reinstate the laws to stop that? It'd be an easy win for Trump and it'd stop the constant rushing this generation has of always wanting to be first for "news".

In the past day we've had so much fake news with no reproduction.
 
Kirk just wanted to bridge the gap between the sides with open dialogue, not start a civil war. Hopefully that'll be possible some day. I have no idea where America will go from here though.
CK was not a centrist bro; He was not trying to bridge the gap. Centrists are people like Sam Harris and The Bulwark. CK was a much more charismatic and polished version of Steven Crowder.
 
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AJAM = Al Jazeera America

very credible person /s
Al Jazeera was writing about the concentration camps in the LNR / DPR and how Russia was holding the strings in 2021; long before the Western media. Al Jazeera got a lot of things right before others, because they did not care to keep the facade up, like the European media, because everybody needed the cheap Russian gas.
 
The Guardian posted an article and quoted a high school friend of the shooter:


In a phone interview Friday, one of Robinson's high school friends – who asked to remain anonymous – said that Robinson was "pretty left on everything" and was "the only member of his family that was, like, really leftist".

"The rest of his family was very hard Republican – like gun-loving, everything," the friend said. "He was really the only one that was on the left."
 
It has always been like this. You don't think we would have seen the same thing if we had social media and message boards when Martin Luther King was assassinated from a certain crowd? Come on, you're like my wife and her mother talking about how the end times are coming cause evil keeps winning more and more. It's always been here.
With the way some people are pearl clutching over this, makes me think they really just play video games all day and have no idea how humans have been for thousands of years and never seen any of the tragic and disgusting shit that's been happening and said in every single generation. Like, where have y'all been.
 
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