Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event
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What does this mean? If some angst teen wears something with Antifa written on it he can get the "full force of the law"?
I remember people wearing anarchy t-shirts and steering up shit in the 80s and 90s. Hell US even had a president killed by those lunatics.
FalconPunch
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Is it unfair to make such assumptions when they're regurgitating news talking points with very little uniqueness in thought or idea?
Ok, however the difference between me who has visited Alabama and spoken to people in Alabama, is that i can reconcile what i hear and read with the experience that I've had. Then i can see if it tracks or not.
The person who has not even bothered to go there in the first place does not have secondary reference point nor experience to complete that reconciliation. So they cannot even begin to interpret if what they're hearing and reading is true.
I don't think your second argument holds water at all. If you go to a place and form connections with people in the place, its very easy to start to understand what some of the issues are.
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Kotaro
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antifa portland have been sieging federal buildings for the last couple of weeks, like what they did during BLM riots. This is what the military for
Angry_Megalodon
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I'm disappointed nobody made the Order 66 gif yet.
But full force here relates to shooting them or something or just remove them of those sieges by force?
Kotaro
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poppabk
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Full force means shooting and killing. The 'if neccesary' is the devil in the details part.
Senua
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Slippery slope
Not just freedom in some abstract sense, but the right to be treated as a moral being who is worthy of equal concern and respect. In an an authoritarian society there are no limitations on what can happen to you. You can be imprisoned or tortured to death, and the same can happen to your friends and family, without recourse. Essentially you can be denied the right to exist.
If you believe that people are just disposable cogs in an economic machine, then absolute control is a very useful tool. You just have to make sure that you are not the one being disposed of.
Senua
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Yep, the bloodlust from some though is absolutely retarded considering what we've just been through
Trilobit
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Wow, these people are delusional. "Have a safe house". What does that even mean? Are they going to stay in some abandoned cabin in the woods when winter comes? Or an old abandoned factory somewhere? I feel like they think they live in some romanticized conspiracy movie where they don't have to deal with the economical aspects of actually living outside of society and one's home. Maybe they'll live at a relative's house, but I don't think they'll allow it for more than a few nights.
I understand, thinking that you're going to live in your van, driving around from town to town and evading law can feel thrilling. Eating burgers at diners and hiding in bushes with binoculars. The reality is that that kind of living gets old really fast and unless you have unlimited funds makes you basically a homeless person. Most of them probably live in their parents' basements where they imagine themselves as some kind of virtuous and disciplined soldiers. But they are actually just weak and angry and riddled with anxiety and mental issues.
I'm fascinated by Trump actually taking action and not just pumping out meaningless words.
Kacho
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It won't come to that. I suspect the Antifa retards will fold quickly when they face actual consequences because Soros funded DAs aren't bailing them out.
th4tguy
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But he told us it was a day of love. That it was a peaceful protest and people just took pictures and nothing bad happened.
Halo is Back
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Yeah uhhhh, while I fucking hate ANTIFA, I'm not for the use of lethal force by the FBI or National Guard. That's a very slippery slope, and it can very easily backfire on this administration if innocents get killed.
Let's try not to repeat the Kent State massacre.
Let's try not to repeat the Kent State massacre.
Kacho
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Yep. If they throw rocks, Molotov cocktails, or use guns they get everything that's coming to them.
laynelane
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They're also saying to "strap up" in those tweets. That Alissa person has previous convictions for violent behavior too.
Who would have thought this would come from a 'grassroots' movement with no organized leadership?
Hot5pur
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White House provides a full list of political agitators, complete with links to their posts/tweets........is Trump about to escalate this all the way up?
Am I the only one that sees the irony here? Guy literally lied about losing an election, got crushed in 60 court cases (many by judges he appointed no less!) as he had no evidence, starts a violent insurrection, and complains about people making statements to incite ICE opposition.
I guess there is that 25% of people who bought the conspiracy theories hook and sinker, many of them in this thread. Anyway, this has devolved beyond the Kirk thing and I suppose it's time to bow out before this thread gets overly nasty.
I'm sure many will still defend him, too many are part of his personality cult, beholden to his every whim. The guy preys on the weak using fear, religion and outrage, and he's a masterclass at picking vulnerable targets.
Ehh, that's a pretty good alabama experience
White House provides a full list of political agitators, complete with links to their posts/tweets........is Trump about to escalate this all the way up?
Criticism of ICE is not incitement. No, not even harsh or exaggerated criticism of ICE.
Frankly, people are allowed to find ICE's actions disgusting and immoral. That's their opinion.
If this administration wants to go down that road, they will likely lose a lot of cases on First Amendment grounds, whether in front of the judge or the jury, because almost nothing in that quote is calling for "imminent lawless action". That's the standard, not anything less. Inflammatory speech that doesn't meet said standard is, for better or for worse, currently protected.
And of course, you can find a lot of generic "incitement" on Fox News that is just as bad or worse than anything on that list. Yet even that would be protected by the First Amendment. You need to establish a clear, objective link between said speech and the relevant lawless action by meeting very particular conditions, not simple chronology or similarity.
If the government gets away with arresting people on such flimsy grounds, then it really will start to look like actual fascism.
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Baemono
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Okay now he calls Jan 6th a hoax.
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