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[T-0800]

what do you mean lol

He said something about people wanting an excuse to hate Jews. You'll have to look up the thread over there.

 

[MayauMiao]

They made it real easy for Microsoft as as any other to get rid of them and no thanks to their terrible reaction.

 

[Punished Miku]

They made it real easy for Microsoft as as any other to get rid of them and no thanks to their terrible reaction.

MS is like layoffs? I'm down.

 

[The Goddamn Mike]

No words.

Yeah, so this kind of shit is definitively disturbing, but it's a symptom of: "I don't have to care and can say stupid things without consequence."

I live in The States, but spent five months in Australia during university. It just so happened I was there when the New York terrorist attacks in 2001 occurred (how timely). One of my three housemates (all Australian) remarked, "Well, they deserved it," referring to The United States, as we were watching television news coverage in the living room depicting The World Trade Center collapsing. To the credit of my other housemates, one of them immediately exclaimed, "Oh, shut the fuck up." Good on him. Yet, the source of that first response - nonchalant quippiness - is the default attitude for most and has been for quite some time because, again, there are no consequences for having a really terrible point-of-view.

I admittedly am not familiar with Charlie Kirk. I have a vague notion of who he is from the internet, but don't have any idea as to whether his views are inane or not. By all accounts, he seems like a relatively moderate conservative. His assassination also does not rise to the level of the destruction of The World Trade Center, but it doesn't matter.

The unfortunate death of this person and its politicization is vomit-inducing. I was really "hoping" the culprit would end up being some kind of Mark David Chapman type - an obsessed fan. We could have avoided this whole cycle of left vs. right politics bullshit - which, at this point, as previously described, is nauseating.

"Your people made this happen!" "No, YOUR people made this happen!" Nothing is resolved. The carousel spins and spins.

Someone has been murdered. It's heinous and unacceptable - obviously, this is not a controversial opinion and NORMAL people do not dispute it. Law enforcement will do its job, ultimately. Democrats didn't do this. Republicans didn't do this. A crazy person did this and that person will be held accountable. The imagined fault of either political party is a lot of blowhard internet nonsense. The fringe elements of either party are not the majority and a nutjob with the will to execute someone isn't taking orders from Gavin Newsom or Nancy Pelosi or whoever.

I feel like the point of these threads is to let people vent a little bit and discuss a current event until the thread is closed and things go back to normal. This has worked well so far ever since the politics forum was closed.

Totally venting, here: no denial.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

"If you read this, you are gay"; sounds left for you? really?

Everything that was on the bullets screams edgelord, if he also was a groyper, is unclear yet.

It doesn't scream left but the others do. It's the only one that doesn't fit. The whole Italian anti-facist reference and the others aren't very "alt right".

 

[MayauMiao]

These idiots celebrating and gloating really never think ahead.

 

[mileslongthe3rd]

It doesn't scream left but the others do. It's the only one that doesn't fit. The whole Italian anti-facist reference and the others aren't very "alt right".

The song was also on groyper spoitfy lists

 

[Lokaum D+]

These idiots celebrating and gloating really never think ahead.

 

[Mortisfacio]

If people are saying he's against racists I don't see how he'd be a groyper. Basically the biggest racists out there. Guess we'll see.

Casings, Utah County Sheriff report, FBI conference, Media report things like the Guardian's "school friend" interview, etc. all point to he wasn't a groyper. It all points to ANTIFA type terminally online edgelord.

The only sources I can find that hint at groyper are "Trust me, bro. Sources have told me" types posting on X or elsewhere.

 

[poppabk]

Don't mind me I'm just enjoying the mental gymnastics required to make someone who fired a rifle at a conservative figurehead and had antifa slogans on his bullet casings and whose friends apparently confirm was a leftist into not-a-leftist.

Yeah it would have to be someone completely delusional. The kind of person that would think democrat lawmakers and senators were attacked/murdered by leftists. But hopefully not the kind of delusional person who would still think that with months of evidence to the contrary.

Because it was left on left violence, in retaliation for breaking ranks and voting to end healthcare for illegal immigrants a few days earlier.

This is how leftists operate and enforce order within the party. The next one will know better than to defy the party though, right?

 

[MayauMiao]

Oh I am, its just me being..

..over there unawareness.

 

[DrFigs]

I want to point out that foreign actors like Piers Morgan are actively seeking to rile people up and turn Americans against each other. Stay safe guys

 

[Redneckerz]

These idiots celebrating and gloating really never think ahead.

It is late night here and i am from Europe, coming after a evening of good spirits.

I regret watching this. And i am not even a Charlie Kirk follower or a Rightist or whatever. Why, in general, are we celebrating other people being shot?

Just asking this i suppose makes me part of a group. I just have to say i have no idea what group that is, i just see a person being killed whilst they are in debate. That's sick.

But apparently this isn't sick if i have to judge the above. So what is sick, really?

 

[j0hnnix]

These idiots celebrating and gloating really never think ahead.

Therapists should be making phone calls but I wouldn't doubt some of these people are already heavily medicated with therapists feeding them their daily doses because they can't cope when the weather changes.

 

[12Goblins]

It's used by everyone and also by gay people a lot as a joke.

No, it's not. Using gay to mean bad/dumb is a big no no in liberal culture.

It's like a trans person saying "tranny". Big bad

Edit: I guess I can only speak for millennials. Im pretty out of touch with what gen z is doing

 

[ReasonBeing]

Don't mind me I'm just enjoying the mental gymnastics required to make someone who fired a rifle at a conservative figurehead and had antifa slogans on his bullet casings and whose friends apparently confirm was a leftist into not-a-leftist.

Sounds like you're just avoiding diving into the topic. The fact that you don't have the awareness to hedge anything you assert, when we don't have any answers, shows that you have made up your mind already. I would rather participate in the reality we live in where there is naunce and not every issue is black and white.

 

[Kiwicha]

These idiots celebrating and gloating really never think ahead.

I don't care how pretty you are or how nice your tits look (speaking about the second girl in the video) my dick would never get hard for someone that mentally disgusting. And to think we are surrounded by these idiots.

 

[Jenov]

"If you read this, you are gay"; sounds left for you? really?

Everything that was on the bullets screams edgelord, if he also was a groyper, is unclear yet.

If you have any experience in Gen Z discord culture, specifically furry discords, it's pretty common to see that meme. And they're all very gay/queer.

Example meme of one of the other things he inscribed:

Notices Bulge / OwO What's This? | Know Your Meme

Notices Bulge / OwO What's This? is a copypasta parodying both furries and online roleplay subcultures, which is typically used online as a method of troll

knowyourmeme.com

 

[adamsapple]

I'm sorry .. I just can't take Kash seriously. I just can't.

 

[MayauMiao]

What is more surreal is him not understanding why he got the call from the higher ups.

 

[Lokaum D+]

What is more surreal is him not understanding why he got the call from the higher ups.

now he can have no regrets in unemployment

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Starbucks and McDonalds are going to become so stunning and brave in the coming weeks.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

This one was actually wild, like it basically did go as you would expect wew

 

[LiquidMetal14]

 

[Woggleman]

I often disagreed with him but anybody who celebrates killing somebody for expressing an opinion is sick. If you truly feel you are right he handed you the mic and let you speak your peace. When the backlash gets even worse and we have a Reagan style shift to the right they will be the cause.

 

[SlimySnake]

MS is like layoffs? I'm down.

even better. its straight up termination so these callous bastards dont get any severance or healthcare coverage saving them tens of thousands of dollars.

 

[delirium trigger]

This one was actually wild, like it basically did go as you would expect wew

People like Cenk and all the analysts over at cnn and msnbc could give a shit about Charlie Kirk but they've come to the realization that this could potentially happen to them so they're all saying the right things.

Just listen to Cenk, "ARE YOU TRYING TO GET ME KILLED?"

 

[Singular7]

now he can have no regrets in unemployment

What really shocks me is that this group of people (basically the reddit crowd) really do believe that he was trying to "kill everyone they love"

We're just speaking past each other at this point, and nobody cares anymore. Charlie Kirk was about as reasonable of a human as has ever been in the public sphere lol

So I guess its just going to resolve to a big violent something or other someday.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

This link is from his direct account. Starting soon.

 

[12Goblins]

ಥ⁠╭⁠╮⁠ಥ

 

[Drake]

oh god, this poor woman.

 

[MayauMiao]

 

[SlimySnake]

I mean she's not wrong. instead of blaming right or left or whereever the fuck these groypers reside, maybe we need to look in the mirror. every mass murderer or school shooter is male. there have been like two women mass shooters in the last 30 years. the rest? men. of all races, political persuasion, and even 'gender identity'. maybe its because we play games. or maybe its because we are terminally online. or just plain retarded. regardless, its time to set aside our politics and either try and figure this out, or fucking turn in these people if we cant help them. this guy's discord server shouldve turned him in a long time ago.

 

[Lokaum D+]

prepare yourselves for the amount of mentally ill people that ll be mocking her on social media the next couple days.

 

[delirium trigger]

What really shocks me is that this group of people (basically the reddit crowd) really do believe that he was trying to "kill everyone they love"

We're just speaking past each other at this point, and nobody cares anymore. Charlie Kirk was about as reasonable of a human as has ever been in the public sphere lol

So I guess its just going to resolve to a big violent something or other someday.

So, this is how their mental gymnastics actually works if you pay close enough attention to it.

They view a transgender person's transition as a "life saving procedure". Therefore, anyone that opposes said procedure is literally murdering trans people.

You'll notice they're usually not going on about trans rights, they're usually just going off the deep end about how Republicans are killing trans people.

It's all nonsense but anyone who disagrees is a Nazi and one less Nazi is a good thing....

These are children making up the rules as they play the game. They've been doing it for at least a decade now.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

This link is from his direct account. Starting soon.

I cannot even pretend to fathom the grief she is going through and she's up there speaking just 2 days after she was widowed

 

[Aesius]

No, it's not. Using gay to mean bad/dumb is a big no no in liberal culture.

It's like a trans person saying "tranny". Big bad

To be fair, he's 22, terminally online, and seems more into memes than politics. He's not a hyper-offended millennial liberal.

 

[Mortisfacio]

To be fair, he's 22, terminally online, and seems more into memes than politics. He's not a hyper-offended millennial liberal.

He seems further than that. Anarcho marxists like ANTIFA are even further left than the hyper offended millennials. I've been following Portland ANTIFA crowds long enough online. They're all into meme culture.

 

[vodka-bull]

I don't hope the guy gets the death penalty, I hope he'll rot in prison for the rest of his life. Heard they like scrawny kids in there.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

You do realize that some people on the right wrote openly on Twitter that if the shooter would have been trans, they should end the whole movement.

That was pretty close to the Reichskristallnacht shit we already had once.

This would have been a good chance for everybody to turn down the rhetoric, but instead people went to 150%, including people like Musk or King.

Idiots write idiot things on twitter everyday, you think the country would rise up because of a dumb angry tweet said so?

 

[Scrawnton]

Did yall see that the killer debated Charlie Kirk roughly a year ago? I remember seeing that episode. It allegedly was that crazy leftist with the bullhorn screaming into a mic.

Edit: may not be the same guy? Twitter seems conflicted.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

Some people are backpeddeling hard

Republicans are the joke that keeps giving

 

[Kacho]

This link is from his direct account. Starting soon.

I feel awful for her, the kids and Charlie's parents. I wish them nothing but the best.

I'm not religious so I can't relate to the Bible verse stuff and coping through God. Makes me think of the APC song Judith.

 

[ReasonBeing]

It doesn't scream left but the others do. It's the only one that doesn't fit. The whole Italian anti-facist reference and the others aren't very "alt right".

Well to be fair, a normal conservative should be anti-fascist as well, considering a core tenant of American conservatism is small government. If being anti-fascist automatically put you on the left, does that mean to be on the right you have to be profacist?

 

[Ammogeddon]

This link is from his direct account. Starting soon.

Broke my heart all over again.

But it also emboldened me.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

My roomie, who I really love, is cheering Charlie Kirk's death and mocking his wife while she's crying.

I didn't like Charlie Kirk either but it's very disturbing.

 

[MayauMiao]

Well to be fair, a normal conservative should be anti-fascist as well, considering a core tenant of American conservatism is small government. If being anti-fascist automatically put you on the left, does that mean to be on the right you have to be profacist?

Problem is the fascist term has been use in such disingenuous ways from the left, the word has lost its meaning. Many probably see the word as a calling card from the radical left to attack the right.

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

Riley, who I really love, is cheering Charlie Kirk's death and mocking his wife while she's crying.

 

[Dice]

I don't know why this kid had beef with Charlie Kirk. What I do know is that coming into whatever belief that makes you disagree with someone is not the same as whatever it is that makes you think the solution to disagreeing with someone is to shoot them. This dude was raised with guns and at some point along the way it would seem the correct messaging failed to connect with him about what guns are for and under what circumstances they should be used. This seems by and large to be an American problem. I grew up in the hood and it was a problem there among gang members. If you watch the film "Boyz n the Hood" I can confirm it is often exactly that stupid/thoughtless in how it develops. Yet it also seems to happen among men in other demographics, such as this shooter, and other age groups and political beliefs. I don't think it has anything to do with right or left, just that as a country we romanticize the fuck out of shooting people to solve problems. We have got to figure out how to dismantle or transform or replace that prevailing sentiment into something different if we want this shit to stop.