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Sorry, but I'm not seeing the problem with Mystique here. I was 100% onboard with the irritation over the uglification of MJ in Spider-Man 2. I totally get why people aren't down with Atsu in Ghost of Yotei. But in this case, I'm having a very hard time believing that most of the people complaining about her looks in this game would actually say no to getting ridden by the world's tallest Smurf.
same. it sorta feels like reverse gaslighting? like instead of someone trying to convince you that something that's really happening isn't, it's like someone trying to convince you that something that isn't really happening is?...
 
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same. it sorta feels like reverse gaslighting? like instead of someone trying to convince you that something that's really happening isn't, it's like someone trying to convince you that something that isn't really happening is?...

Is it possible that we see more of her later and it's like, "Oh! Yeah. Jesus Christ. She's actually kinda ugly. That was just a good shot of her"? Sure and at that point I'm down for the pitchforks. But the image that keeps getting floated? I've seen plenty of real women with those features, minus the blue skin and crazy eyes, and found them attractive. Most people around them did. I don't understand what it is about her features that is making people fuss over it.
 
Is it possible that we see more of her later and it's like, "Oh! Yeah. Jesus Christ. She's actually kinda ugly. That was just a good shot of her"? Sure and at that point I'm down for the pitchforks. But the image that keeps getting floated? I've seen plenty of real women with those features, minus the blue skin and crazy eyes, and found them attractive. Most people around them did. I don't understand what it is about her features that is making people fuss over it.
imo, it's about finding something, which's what the left's been doing for at least 10 years now. like yourself, if i'm eventually proven wrong, fine. but right now? i personally am looking & finding nothing...
 
I actually really like SM1 and SM:MM. SM2 was awful though, due to the horrible writing, boring side quests, the political messages that are as subtle as a base ball bat over the head, half baked stealth sections, and criminally long walky talky sections. And the leaks of Wolverine all seem to be pointing towards this same situation.

And let me be clear regarding my issue with the political messaging in these games. I'm a liberal, but I can't stand being constantly preached at when I'm trying to just chill and have some fun.
Spiderman 2 was bad. It had some positive elements for sure but overall was such a huge miss it makes me doubt this company's competency and wonder if they are on the downward slope like we saw with Bioware and other companies. And for sure this shit doesn't make me optimistic:
Wow… maybe Firewalk going under was the worst possible outcome. Now they've dispersed and absorbed into all these other companies.
 
same. it sorta feels like reverse gaslighting? like instead of someone trying to convince you that something that's really happening isn't, it's like someone trying to convince you that something that isn't really happening is?...
Funny thing is Mystique was never really sexualized until the live action movies. I'm sorry if a blue woman isn't hot enough for some guys here but it seems like a silly thing to be upset about lol.
 
Funny thing is Mystique was never really sexualized until the live action movies. I'm sorry if a blue woman isn't hot enough for some guys here but it seems like a silly thing to be upset about lol.

Wasnt sexualized till the live action movies?

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The live action movies came out in the year 2000. (Im guessing those are the ones you are talking about because by the time the first class movies came out Mystique was pretty much a nun)
Did you not read comics before the movies or did you forget 90s comics and their depictions of women?
Mystique was notoriously consistent in wearing what can only be described as the 90s were wild.
She was practically naked in many many iterations of her costume. (Naked in universe actually)
Her modernized white suit even as sexy as it is if fucking modest compared to her X-Factor look.

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Funny you say she wasnt sexualized till the movies came out.......her costume went full on X-Treme Xmen after the movies, thats when she used to wear the generic mercenary combat gear suit.
The 2000s onwards is when comics couldnt get away with over sexualizing characters......implied sexiness became the thing, even her modernized classic white suit is still sexy but atleast its not a leotard all the way up her ass.


Those are all decent artists but I've never enjoyed the idea that Mystique would make herself look like a 19 year old in any capacity. It goes against most of her earlier appearances and her actual disposition being much more akin to her actual age(she's like 250 at minimum).

Sorry but I much prefer the game look here. But maybe I was simply groomed into that...
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Theyre clearly taking inspiration from the movie depiction, which most people liked when it came out.

Mystique does not WANT to appear attractive to non mutants in her form. Again, this is a core part of her character. Her appearance, and her allure, are tools for her to achieve her goals. This is why she stays blue ghastly. She even says this in the first movie when asked why she doesn't choose to look "normal". She says "we shouldn't have to".

If the inspiration is the movies then they fucked up because the 2000s movies are what got Mystique completely wrong and have given people a warped view of Mystique from the comic. (who is a better character than the 2000s movie)

She doesnt make herself look like that.
The blue form is her natural state, her aging slowed from when she was like 14 or some shit.
Shes Rogues adopted mother but they look the same age....im sure theres a panel I can find where people are shocked that Mystique adopted Rogue yet they look the same age.
When shes with Destiny she doesnt need to make herself look like anything so we know what her "true" form looks like.
And she looks relatively young, she fits in with core X-Men members even if shes well over 100.

Mystiques true form is considered grotesque to "bigot" normal humans, people who can look past her skin color and eyes consider her extremely beautiful.
Herself? Years of abuse have made her actually hate her natural state.....the First Class movies got this right with Mystique hating what she looks like naturally.
Like literally people get to Mystique by simply showing her a mirror or pictures of herself.
 
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In there video at this recent, SOP they said they want the fans to be happy and give the best wolverine game ever, so can they just give what the fans wants especially on the design of the characters? Is that to much too ask if majority of fans wants good looking characters?
It's very simple, they are making a game THEY think it's the best wolverine, they are not really thinking about what the fans want.

This is THEIR best wolverine, not the best wolverine for fans.

Exactly like panderman 2 with whiny cuck peter, bitch ass maryjawline and savior of the day miles with the retard costume that show the dreadlocks was their idea of the best spiderman.
 
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If being honest, X-Men were always horny and sexually empowered, power fantasy/femme fatale and all. I mean that in all good positive aspects as there was nothing wrong with that when it was aspirational and so fourth.

Mystique looks alright but I can't say one side or another if it's good or bad until seeing more.
 
Not a fan of the art style. Feel like the game's ending up looking like Spider-Wolverine b/c of it. Something less colorful and more toned down would be a better fit IMO.
 
More than the blood, the big detail is the animation of how the soldier 'shuts down' … it's pretty brutal.

Wolverine has always been practically a dwarf, even smaller than in the game.
Im talking about tech not presentation tho
 
Not a fan of the art style. Feel like the game's ending up looking like Spider-Wolverine b/c of it. Something less colorful and more toned down would be a better fit IMO.
Yeah the art style looks very much like the Spiderman games, just with more fine detail. Didnt they say there were going for Hellblade 2 levels of graphics with this?, i'm sure it was them who said it.

I do like the gore though, a nice surprise.

I'll seriously consider the PC version when it comes.
 
Wasnt sexualized till the live action movies?




The live action movies came out in the year 2000. (Im guessing those are the ones you are talking about because by the time the first class movies came out Mystique was pretty much a nun)
Did you not read comics before the movies or did you forget 90s comics and their depictions of women?
Mystique was notoriously consistent in wearing what can only be described as the 90s were wild.
She was practically naked in many many iterations of her costume. (Naked in universe actually)
Her modernized white suit even as sexy as it is if fucking modest compared to her X-Factor look.

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Funny you say she wasnt sexualized till the movies came out.......her costume went full on X-Treme Xmen after the movies, thats when she used to wear the generic mercenary combat gear suit.
The 2000s onwards is when comics couldnt get away with over sexualizing characters......implied sexiness became the thing, even her modernized classic white suit is still sexy but atleast its not a leotard all the way up her ass.




If the inspiration is the movies then they fucked up because the 2000s movies are what got Mystique completely wrong and have given people a warped view of Mystique from the comic. (who is a better character than the 2000s movie)

She doesnt make herself look like that.
The blue form is her natural state, her aging slowed from when she was like 14 or some shit.
Shes Rogues adopted mother but they look the same age....im sure theres a panel I can find where people are shocked that Mystique adopted Rogue yet they look the same age.
When shes with Destiny she doesnt need to make herself look like anything so we know what her "true" form looks like.
And she looks relatively young, she fits in with core X-Men members even if shes well over 100.

Mystiques true form is considered grotesque to "bigot" normal humans, people who can look past her skin color and eyes consider her extremely beautiful.
Herself? Years of abuse have made her actually hate her natural state.....the First Class movies got this right with Mystique hating what she looks like naturally.
Like literally people get to Mystique by simply showing her a mirror or pictures of herself.

Her hating what she looked like in first class was something she grew out of... that was her character arc in that movie. Erik helped her realize she shouldn't hate herself for her natural appearance and that is why from that point forward she stays blue. That whole "perfection" meme is him telling her that her natural blue form is perfect, not those false faces she presents. This is contrasted with her budding romance with beast, who conversely cannot accept his natural state and inadvertently worsens it as a result while trying to "cure" himself.

The one you see in 2000 already has accepted herself. She's well past trying to hide anything.

Mystique as we see her uses her regular appearance even tho she doesn't have to do so; becayse she doesn't hate herself, she hates that humans see herself as. She's incredibly selfish, but a large part of that is because she had to be to survive, growing up as a woman in older times, an LGBT woman; AND a mutant she had to fend for herself.

As for her appearance she looks young for her age; but she was never drawn looking anything like rogue or kitty or the other young characters in the comics, nor does she carry herself that way. This is why I prefer mystique with stronger, more mature features rather than drawing her like an e girl. Thats also how she was first drawn by Dave cockrum, the original artists who designed her.

as an aside, the 90s trend of drawing all women with the same "attractive" features and silly proportions mostly aged badly imo.
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Her hating what she looked like in first class was something she grew out of... that was her character arc in that movie. Erik helped her realize she shouldn't hate herself for her natural appearance and that is why from that point forward she stays blue. That whole "perfection" meme is him telling her that her natural blue form is perfect, not those false faces she presents. This is contrasted with her budding romance with beast, who conversely cannot accept his natural state and inadvertently worsens it as a result while trying to "cure" himself.

The one you see in 2000 already has accepted herself. She's well past trying to hide anything.

Mystique as we see her uses her regular appearance even tho she doesn't have to do so; becayse she doesn't hate herself, she hates that humans see herself as. She's incredibly selfish, but a large part of that is because she had to be to survive, growing up as a woman in older times, an LGBT woman; AND a mutant she had to fend for herself.

I get that......totally NOT the point of my post anyway.
What im saying that the 2000s movies never portrayed her has hating her appearance, something that Mystique is known for.....it was a different characterization of the character so people assume Mystique actually likes looking like that or is some sort of fuck'em bad bitch for staying in base form......shes not, it still affects her.
First class did, yeah her arc was her coming to terms with her look, thats a better characterization, but in the comics to this day she still doesnt actually like her appearance but she holds it in.

So if the inspiration for the game Mystique is the movies either version, thats actually a bad thing.


As for her appearance she looks young for her age; but she was never drawn looking anything like rogue or kitty or the other young characters in the comics, nor does she carry herself that way. This is why I prefer mystique with stronger, more mature features rather than drawing her like an e girl. Thats also how she was first drawn by Dave cockrum, the original artists who designed her.

as an aside, the 90s trend of drawing all women with the same "attractive" features and silly proportions mostly aged badly imo.
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Thats neither here nor there, Rogue and Mystique standing next to each other without context you'd never guess who was "physically" older.
They are drawn to be of a similar age.
And have been since like.............atleast the Ms. Marvel fight probably a lot earlier if i really think about it.

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Kitty and Jubes have always been drawn looking younger......well Drunk Kitty not so much.


P.S You even proved my point by posting her 70 - 80s costume which is hyper sexulized.
SO literally every costume before the movies was sexualized......dunno how people can say the movies are what made Mystique "start" getting sexualized.
 
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Looks a little soft in comparison with the PS360 game

It's like Gears 5 vs Gears 1. There's no weight or something
 
Y'all still bitching over the look of a make believe character?
Disingenuous characterization of our concerns. Jean Grey and Mystique look horrible, but they're only one concern in a litany of others with this game.

I get that......totally NOT the point of my post anyway.
What im saying that the 2000s movies never portrayed her has hating her appearance, something that Mystique is known for.....it was a different characterization of the character so people assume Mystique actually likes looking like that or is some sort of fuck'em bad bitch for staying in base form......shes not, it still affects her.
First class did, yeah her arc was her coming to terms with her look, thats a better characterization, but in the comics to this day she still doesnt actually like her appearance but she holds it in.

So if the inspiration for the game Mystique is the movies either version, thats actually a bad thing.






Thats neither here nor there, Rogue and Mystique standing next to each other without context you'd never guess who was "physically" older.
They are drawn to be of a similar age.
And have been since like.............atleast the Ms. Marvel fight probably a lot earlier if i really think about it.

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Kitty and Jubes have always been drawn looking younger......well Drunk Kitty not so much.


P.S You even proved my point by posting her 70 - 80s costume which is hyper sexulized.
SO literally every costume before the movies was sexualized......dunno how people can say the movies are what made Mystique "start" getting sexualized.
For real. Mystique has been sexualized, as have most characters in superhero comics, male and female, for as long as superhero comics have existed. I mean, the look of Superman, probably the basis for modern superheroes, was based on late 1800s/early 1900s carnival and circus strongmen. That's why he's super buff and wears a skin tight uniform.
 
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SWEET BABY INC = I DO NOT BUY

Guaranteed Wolverine will be cucked by X-23 or at the least saved by him. Jean Grey will also bitch wolverine out. SBI has got to throw their politics int he games. After the Spiderman 2 debacle I am done with insomnia.
 
For real. Mystique has been sexualized, as have most characters in superhero comics, male and female, for as long as superhero comics have existed. I mean, the look of Superman, probably the basis for modern superheroes, was based on late 1800s/early 1900s carnival and circus strongmen. That's why he's super buff and wears a skin tight uniform.

And to me this isnt a bad thing.

I want my superheroes and supervillains looking hot and to be SUPER.
Hot people fighting each other.......bet.

One of the only characters I forgive for being average is actually Spider-Man......because he is supposed to be an everyman.......he is ripped to shit but he isnt body builder big, so when he is just dressed "normally" you might mistake him for an average joe, he wasnt super popular in school or whatever he didnt/doesnt stand out.
Its literally people who know him who end up falling for him......Bruce Wayne with or without the money would be pulling bitches.


Mystique and due to context Jean Grey are supposed to be hot.......hated by "normal" people but hot.
The same way and this is kinda off topic people could be biased against women of thnicity Y, they can accept the woman is hot, but to them no chance, they will rate woman X above her.


For people not in the know X-Men comics are like such a loosely veiled allegory to minoritys being second class citizens.
Mystique is fucking hot......but because shes a mutant has blue skin and weird eyes the purifiers will burn her first chance they get.

IMO if you make her an average to below average looking woman regardless of color, part her charm is lost.......we as an audience are supposed to look at her and think.....YO this chick is hot, why are these humans hating......and then you internalize that thought and think wait why do i hate on XYZ person because they are different, they are still beautiful.



In my IRL life i some how still need to teach people that the X-men comics are about acccepting weirdos and seeing the beauty in them.
But if you literally show me a weirdo......I will still think they are a weirdo.......but you show my adolescent brain something beautiful and tell me this is weird....ill start to question my own views on whats weird.
If anything Insomniac should embrace the OG messegaing and make every mutant as hot as fuck.....every single one, but have in game characters hate on them.





P.S Yes X-Men has been woke since the jump.
 
But as a character, we know Logan has as soft interior which is exactly Insomniac says they want to explore.


Well shit...
That's exactly what the last Logan movie explored as well. Being mad at this is just more of a self report on yalls media literacy.
Someone is grumpy

The wolverine trailer sitting at 5.8 million views with an overwhelming ratio of up votes. Ain't no body grumpy over there, but for some reason yall are.
 
I mean, it's true to the character though.
After panderman 2 i don't want insomniac out of all devs to tell us about logan soft side...

Their version of soft side is probably gonna be emasculating him.

They have everything to prove writing wise unless you liked the writing of sp2, in that case, be my guest.
 
It's very simple, they are making a game THEY think it's the best wolverine, they are not really thinking about what the fans want.

This is THEIR best wolverine, not the best wolverine for fans.

Exactly like panderman 2 with whiny cuck peter, bitch ass maryjawline and savior of the day miles with the retard costume that show the dreadlocks was their idea of the best spiderman.
In other words they want the 1% blue haired to be happy. Talk about diversity but pushing and forcing an agenda like for example those unnecessary woke activities, pride agenda, twisted gender ideology and rainbow flag in SM2. If they want to be true to the literature and really listening to the majority of "true" Marvel fans, then base it from the 80's to 90's comics story and designs.
 
I'm going to choose to be hopeful for this game. I would love to play a good Wolverine game one day, and this might have potential.
 


This explains a lot. So when Sony shut down Firewalk for their abysmal failure, the biggest of which being the character designs, they went aheasd and rehired the artist at one of their other studios. 🫵🤡
 


This explains a lot. So when Sony shut down Firewalk for their abysmal failure, the biggest of which being the character designs, they went aheasd and rehired the artist at one of their other studios. 🫵🤡

TBF, they couldnt influence to much in half a year, but the point of rehiring still stands
 
That's exactly what the last Logan movie explored as well. Being mad at this is just more of a self report on yalls media literacy.

The wolverine trailer sitting at 5.8 million views with an overwhelming ratio of up votes. Ain't no body grumpy over there, but for some reason yall are.
Because it is a cherry picked Trailer. Guaranteed this game will have a ton of woke shit. Girl bosses incoming. Because Wolverine is a cis white male they got to have him cucked by a female.

They did the same shit with Spiderman 2. The trailers were super cool. They didn't show the woke shit like playing as square jaw Mary Jane or how they made Peter Parker look like a helpless bitch while Miles did everything right.

Smart people see past this bait and Switch.
 
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even tho i really don't like the way they made logan hobbit sized.
I know it is realistic but being this size and fightinng everyone in the trailer makes him look like a guy an extreme napoleon complex :messenger_tears_of_joy:
But in this case, I'm having a very hard time believing that most of the people complaining about her looks in this game would actually say no to getting ridden by the world's tallest Smurf.
Wolverine is supposed to be short, I'm ok with that. Doesn't feel too short in the trailer. If something, I'd ask to make him a bit more muscular.
 
So far, I like the graphics and brutality and will be faithful to the comics (not the modern comics around 2010 upwards, please were Wolverine was turned into a gay). But I will still wait for wokeness meter from Vara dark, Grumz and Pirat nation before my purchase. I juts hate games were twisted gender ideology crap is being push. That is what turns me off from Spider man 2. It was a good game but those agendas being push are so frustrating. Those agendas are unnecessary.
Wait. You're going to let a bunch of grifters decide if you're going to purchase a game? 😂
 
Please tell me you're joking and that you know I was talking about Mystique...
When you said "by the world's tallest Smurf" I thought you were talking about Logan, because he's supposed to be short like them. But now I realize you were talking about her because she's blue like them.



This explains a lot. So when Sony shut down Firewalk for their abysmal failure, the biggest of which being the character designs, they went aheasd and rehired the artist at one of their other studios. 🫵🤡

As seen in the leaked Insomniac documents, Wolverine's character designs (including Jean Grey played by Joe Biden on a wig) were obviously made before they did shut down Firewalk.

In addition to this, character, environment, weapon or vehicle designs are made by concept artists, which is a different role than the one that ex-Firewalk person has.

Concept artists draw sketches and illustrations (often in 2D) following the ideas and indications of the art director, creative director, game director, heads of game design or narrative and a few other people (often producer, some marketing head, and in this case some DEI censor and some Marvel IP licensor) and keeps iterating until these people are happy. Quite often concept artists don't end being happy with their output because these other people made them do stuff in a way they don't like.

Once approved, there are other artists whose job is to turn these concept arts following the same design, style, tone, etc into 3D assets that the game can work with. They are the 3D artists, who often are specialized into character artist, envirionment artist, weapon artist.

Character artists sculpt the 3D mesh, and in smaller companies also do their rigging (let's say "skeleton and muscles" required for the animations), texturing or animation. In most cases of big companies like Sony they only do the 3D mesh, and have other artists who do the rigging, other ones who do texturing, other ones who do animation, etc.

That ex-Firewalk person is a character artist, meaning he/she does the in-game 3D asset of characters, but not their character design.
 
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I mean, it looks visually nice, like most Sony published games, but this trailer didn't really do anything for me. I've been vocal about the overused character player/perspective view and character model. Also, if they haven't altered the original storyline significantly then the release and reception (not by "critics") is going to be the real "entertainment", lol.
 


This explains a lot. So when Sony shut down Firewalk for their abysmal failure, the biggest of which being the character designs, they went aheasd and rehired the artist at one of their other studios. 🫵🤡

Let's take the people directly and personally responsible for costing our company a quarter billion dollars and a decade of opportunity cost and put them in important positions in other branches of the company.
 
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