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The dust is starting to settle... what's the GOTY of 2025?
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Markio128
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I went with DS 2 because it's the one game that I played in full without being distracted by other games and it's the one I'm most looking forward to replaying at some point.
E 33 was a good game, but I don't fancy going through it again.
Oblivion (bugs aside) I enjoyed for a while, but the combat is a bit shit, even compared to Skyrim.
KCD 2 I also enjoyed for a while, but I became a bit sick of the mundane tasks, and time spent trying to find my next meal. I'll give this one another go though.
Silksong can choke on my plums. But in all seriousness, I haven't finished it yet - not even finished Act 1 yet tbh. Just got to some docks area. My biggest criticism so far isn't the difficulty, but the severe lack of checkpoints.
I suspect only GOY could change my current choice at this point.
E 33 was a good game, but I don't fancy going through it again.
Oblivion (bugs aside) I enjoyed for a while, but the combat is a bit shit, even compared to Skyrim.
KCD 2 I also enjoyed for a while, but I became a bit sick of the mundane tasks, and time spent trying to find my next meal. I'll give this one another go though.
Silksong can choke on my plums. But in all seriousness, I haven't finished it yet - not even finished Act 1 yet tbh. Just got to some docks area. My biggest criticism so far isn't the difficulty, but the severe lack of checkpoints.
I suspect only GOY could change my current choice at this point.
jmiller180
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Beat Act 3 of Silksong last night and I am starting to second guess my vote for E33.
geary
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I think Henry can do that as well and then KCD2 will be frontrunner
Critical Hit
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Didn't see that for other goty contenders this year. And I didn't talk only about gaf, though. Usually hyped games have some presence in my reddit/youtube feed.
Baldur's Gate 3 was in the EA for years, yet it smitten everything after the release. So I'm more inclined to believe that SilkSong's release had an impact than Early Access.
GymWolf
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Well if true, hopefully hype and reddit feed is not the meter we use to judge goty materials, i think we can both agree that that would be a shit ass method.
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analog_future
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I suppose I'll chime in and say that, after playing 23 games this year, my top games so far look something like this:
Still looking forward to playing Battlefield 6, Keeper, and Metroid Prime 4 before the years over as well.
- Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
- Donkey Kong Bananza
- Cronos: The New Dawn
- DOOM: The Dark Ages
- Split Fiction
Still looking forward to playing Battlefield 6, Keeper, and Metroid Prime 4 before the years over as well.
schaft0620
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Still a lot of 2025 left but people who think Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is better than Death Stranding 2, I assume just haven't played Death Stranding 2.
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Mortisfacio
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Yes. I have not played Death Stranding 2 because I hated Death Stranding.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Voted KCD2 but I think Silksong might dethrone it for me.
Both are amazing games, but Silksong has better gameplay so I think I'll end up going with that one.
Both are amazing games, but Silksong has better gameplay so I think I'll end up going with that one.
Critical Hit
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I think if there is no hype around a game it's less likely get an award. Can you recall any instances when this was not the case?
While true, I don't wanna touch the sequel after I've played the first "game".
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Topher
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Have you played both? And KCD 2. And DKB. And the others. I doubt everyone has played all the games listed so not sure why any one game would disqualify folks from picking E33.
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DenchDeckard
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I've played both but I havent completed Death Stranding 2. I adore DS2 but at this point Expedition 33 still takes it for me. That could change though once ive completed DS2.
GymWolf
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Well another reason to consider these awards absolutely meaningless if they are based on hype.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
It's always been a popularity contest. Don't think Geoff and Co care too much about game design nor anything of the sort.
GymWolf
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I'm gonna fist a bull as hard as i can if cringe turding 2 get the goty just because dorito is chummy with kojima, ngl.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
It's the one I expect to win. You just can't do shit against the power of love.
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Critical Hit
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You're oversimplifying, this is not the only factor in the decision-making process.
Is this love bigger than game community hate, though? I don't think it's good for business.
schaft0620
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I have
Topher
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I'm in the final act of Clair Obscur and I don't think I've ever been so overhyped by the internet for something that feels like it's on the road to greatness, but not actually that great in comparison to "those who came before" (other jrpgs). It's cool the studio pulled it off but I keep waiting for the big moment.
Critical Hit
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Could you post your opinion again, after you finish the game?
geary
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How's Ex33 treating you? Did you reached the Axons?
Danjin44
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I REALLY enjoyed E33 it's great game but people going very hyperbolic over this game.
I can only speak for myself but as fan of this genre I like other JRPGs way more than E33 especially game like Trails of the Sky.
Thesnipergecko
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Easily Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 for me. I couldn't put it down.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Sorry if I sound like a douche but imho, most of the praise must come from people who haven't played that many JRPGs.
I got bored by Act 2 but until that point I didn't see anything that wasn't done already in other JRPGs, and was better done in those.
Madflavor
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There's a lot of truly great games this year, but E33 is just special. It's the whole package. It has an amazing story and set of characters, great twists and turns, fun turn based combat, a banger soundtrack, great art direction, superb voice acting, it's just fantastic across the board. It was also made by a small team that brought French storytelling to the forefront. So not only is it a great game, it's also a great success story.
Hades 2 and Silksong are great games, but they're also an evolution of their predecessors. Which is good, but they're games we've kinda played before. E33 was something that felt like we haven't gotten in a very long time. On top of that even though there are other great games this year, E33 just sticks with you. It's a story that leaves a lasting impression on you for weeks/months, and still get discussed long after it's out. I still think it's locked in for GOTY.
Hades 2 and Silksong are great games, but they're also an evolution of their predecessors. Which is good, but they're games we've kinda played before. E33 was something that felt like we haven't gotten in a very long time. On top of that even though there are other great games this year, E33 just sticks with you. It's a story that leaves a lasting impression on you for weeks/months, and still get discussed long after it's out. I still think it's locked in for GOTY.
Danjin44
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I finished game I really liked it but you are also right that it feels the game made for people who don't like turn based JRPGs or haven't played many of them.
HYDE
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Turn based rpg niche trash, no thanks! Next you're going to tell me rogue-likes are fire…
Won't understand the appeal to these types of games, maybe play board games instead.
Danjin44
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I liked the game and put 100+ hours in to it but I don't agree with that AT ALL.
I'm currently playing Trails of the Sky 1st Chapter and I personally like that game waaaay more than E33.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Thought it was like Paper Mario but not as well designed. 100% of the fights were "Lune sets enemy on fire, Gustave marks it, Maelle goes into Virtous position, deal a ton of damage, rinse and repeat" so I never saw any point to customizing my characters, specially since the game allowed me to parry everything, negating all damage. The idea for the combat is cool but imo, poorly designed. Paper Mario does a much better job of shaking things up between areas, plus the paper aesthethic makes it so everything is very easy to see and "process". COE33 has tons of particles and effects that sometimes got in the way of the evading/parrying, imo.
Also the writting was weird, at least to me. On one scene you have Gustave about to kill himself because he can't take it anymore, a few scenes later he's making jokes with Lune about the little brush dudes village or some shit.
Not saying the game is bad by any means btw, I just don't think is the "best JRPG ever" as some people seem to claim.
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Madflavor
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Come on, are we really doing this? "True JRPG fans know that E33 isn't anything special."
My first JRPG was Dragon Warrior IV in 1992, and I've been playing games in the genre ever since, and I think E33 is an exceptional game in the genre. I'm not saying it cures cancer, but it's a damn good game and deserves it's praise.
My first JRPG was Dragon Warrior IV in 1992, and I've been playing games in the genre ever since, and I think E33 is an exceptional game in the genre. I'm not saying it cures cancer, but it's a damn good game and deserves it's praise.
vaibhavpisal
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Cmon dude, Paper Mario ? Really??
Danjin44
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I'm not saying it doesn't and agree it damn good game but best turn based JRPG? FUCK NO!
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
yes. Read the post, I explained why it's combat is overdesigned which isn't the case in Paper Mario. Used that one as example because it's more or less similar with the button inputs during a turn based combat.
Critical Hit
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Sorry if I sound like a douche but imho, most of the JPRGs are cringe in one way (appearance/style) or another (facial expressions, dialogues) for a casual western player.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I'd say that's a fact lol. But that's all subjective, while the qualities of the games aren't. What I'm trying to say is, the opinion of the mayority shouldn't affect the appraisal of a game's qualities: Chrono Trigger isn't less of a gem just because a lot of people think anime is cringe.
Critical Hit
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I agree on this one. This was the most problematic scene for me in the game, which I think was poorly written (they could make it better) and it seems that it was added just to increase the shock value.
Not all anime is the same. I think most of the people didn't have any issues with Miyazaki movies. But what do you mean by "shouldn't affect" - it shouldn't affect like CO:E33 which you said is not great enough, or like Chrono Trigger which is a gem?
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Agreed it was done for shock value.
I mean what I said lol: people's opinions on setting or art-style shouldn't affect the appraisal of the qualities of the game. What I try to say with this is that a game isn't less because you don't like a particular aspect of it: for example, imagine if I said Elden Ring is a piece of shit game because I don't like medieval fantasy. It's retarded, and imo it's the same when people say JRPGs are cringe because they don't like the anime aesthetic or style of writting.Not all anime is the same. I think most of the people didn't have any issues with Miyazaki movies. But what do you mean by "shouldn't affect" - it shouldn't affect like CO:E33 which you said is not great enough, or like Chrono Trigger which is a gem?
And yeah not all anime is the same, same as not all JRPGs are the same. Just look at Valkyrie Profile and then look at an Atelier game, both are very different in all possible aspects.
ByWatterson
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So few of the gaming press will beat Silksong, though. I don't know...
Tell me you've never known desperate people without telling me you've never known desperate people.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Are you able to rephrase this without the modern internet jargon? There's something interesting in your point but the way you put it is terrible.
ByWatterson
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Desperate, even suicidal people are often adept at switching from one frame of mind to another. They train themselves to appear and act as the world needs them to. And, their desperation doesn't preclude them from feeling normal most of the time.
Madflavor
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I don't think it's the best JRPG, but if there were a Top 10 list it would be in there for me easily.
Critical Hit
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Why though? Art style and acting are among the main parts of the story-based games. So, most gamers simply won't play games they don't like the look of, and it doesn't matter how great it is inside. Is it justified for some of them to say that the whole game is trash? I think not and didn't mean it.
Danjin44
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Not for me, I really like E33 it was great but there many JRPGs that I personally like more than E33.
Especially when I'm currently playing Trails of the Sky 1st Chapter after E33.....yeah, I like Trails way more.
Grildon Tundy
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KCD2 still reigns supreme for me. With E33 making a very strong argument for GOTY.
Realistically, I think GOTY at The Game Awards is between Death Stranding 2 and E33. I enjoyed DS2, but I expected a revolution from DS1 and it was more of an iteration.
Realistically, I think GOTY at The Game Awards is between Death Stranding 2 and E33. I enjoyed DS2, but I expected a revolution from DS1 and it was more of an iteration.
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