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[Ass of Can Whooping]

What about actual roleplaying like having skill checks on dialog so you have a branching story?

Not including every feature is one thing. Failing to represent the genre of the game is another. Especially when the original development on the game had the work done to support it.

How many features do you want to include? Trying to modernise the first bloodlines into a 2025 game with all those things doesn't work without the budget of a proper AAA game.

Probably why the first studio ended up failing.

 

[Vlodril]

It seemed obvious when they changed direction completely. The og version might have seem pretty poor gameplay wise but it at least seem to be bloodlines. Maybe if they gave them the time spend on chinese studio version the game would have come together. Who knows.

Even if the game wasn't crap it wouldn't be bloodlines and that was obvious from the moment they started releasing information about this new version. Fuck them for mishandling the sequel to one of my favorite games of all time.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Trying to modernise the first bloodlines into a 2025 game

That's the problem to begin with..

 

[Braag]

Fextralife's review



I have the OT ready. Will drop it during the weekend I guess.

 

[XERXES_89]

It seems that scrapping Mitsoda and Ellison's VTMB2 was the right decision after all. Congratulations to the brilliant minds at Paradox!

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

That's the problem to begin with..

Making a game that doesn't play, look and feel like a game from 2004?

 

[Stuart360]

To be honest i was expecting it to be a disaster, and not just a bit meh.

I'll probably try it out when keys are cheap on key sites.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Making a game that doesn't play, look and feel like a game from 2004?

No, just that it has 2025 tropes. I'd have vastly preferred if it just looked and had the macabre feeling of the first..

Hell, just remaster the first and it would be better

This looks and sounds like a CW show

 

[Black_Stride]

This game had 7 outta 10 written all over it.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Not what I wanted, but not surprised by this outcome considering all the hell it went through and the quality of some of the playthroughs we saw recently. Maybe I'll still grab it on the super cheap. But yeah, I'm by no means in any rush.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

No, just that it has 2025 tropes. I'd have vastly preferred if it just looked and had the macabre feeling of the first..

Hell, just remaster the first and it would be better

This looks and sounds like a CW show

So you're on about the atmosphere/tone or whatever? Fair enough

 

[rodrigolfp]

"surprisingly engaging traversal and combat mechanics"

You have my interest.

 

[The Cockatrice]

not that I give a shit about critic reviews, but how the fuck do you make a game worse than the first? I mean it wasnt a marvel, but it grew into a classic over the years and all they had to do was improve on all aspects of the first and it seems this does the opposite... Anyway still getting it eventually.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

£20 on sale as fuck unfortunately.

 

[Sticks]

 

[ProtoByte]

Who would have thought that developer of walking sims won't be a good fit for an immersive RPG?

If you were expecting an "immersive RPG", you were always sorely mistaken and probably never played the first Bloodlines.

 

[Dazraell]

Oof, that's an epic score

 

[ChoosableOne]

As expected.

 

[FireFly]

How many features do you want to include? Trying to modernise the first bloodlines into a 2025 game with all those things doesn't work without the budget of a proper AAA game.

Probably why the first studio ended up failing.

It looks like this game has barely any RPG mechanics at all.

 

[ProtoByte]

It looks like this game has barely any RPG mechanics at all.

By that token, neither does the first Bloodlines.
This isn't FF16 we're talking about. We have 6 different clans, varying dialogue options dependent and independent of clan, skill trees, etc.

Most RPGs are not endlessly branching experiences. There is a line, and maybe BL2 falls short, but pretending like the first title was some kind of Freeform TTRPG made into a game is nostalgic at best.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

It looks like this game has barely any RPG mechanics at all.

It's missing what? Stats and skill checks? Bloodlines 1 wasn't a deep RPG either.

 

[PeteBull]

Fuck i really wanted game to be good or at least good enough for genre connoisseur (7/10 or so), im still gonna play it just looks like its not worth full price so not at launch =/

 

[Draugoth]

Well, maybe they can do it right next time in 15 years

 

[Gonzito]

Yikes it went down even further

 

[StereoVsn]

I will give it a year, some patches and $15. Will boot it up with a glass of whiskey, and cry silent tears in disappointment!

 

[pudel]

Fuck i really wanted game to be good or at least good enough for genre connoisseur (7/10 or so), im still gonna play it just looks like its not worth full price so not at launch =/

It looks pretty much like a 7/10 to me. I think it just get extra hammered cause of the "name". Reviving a 20 year old cult classic and making it another cult classic doesnt seem to be as easy. I only know of Larian who managed this in the last few years.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

2025 has been a legendary year, can't have it all lol. I don't care about reviews but I was only ever mildly interested anyway, will have to wait for Blood Of The Dawnwalker for some true vampire goodness (I hope).

Edit: and I wouldn't mind a sequel to Vampyr

 

[StereoVsn]

So no loot, no character progression after couple hours, no stats, and side quests suck.

And you are running between dialogues and quests are middling at most.

 

[Gamezone]

Who would have known?

 

[Dazraell]

It's missing what? Stats and skill checks? Bloodlines 1 wasn't a deep RPG either.

I read somewhere it misses stats, skill checks, inventory, quest log and using weapons (you can use some through telekinesis but you can't wield them for some bizarre reason). I saw some reviews saying choice and consequence isn't really that impactful either. Clans seems to be just unique skill trees for combat and minor fluff in the dialogue

 

[Kacho]

This is Ass of Can Whooping 's Mindseye

 

[The_hunter]

(you can use some through telekinesis but you can't wield them for some bizarre reason).

Budget saving measure.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I read somewhere it misses stats, skill checks, inventory, quest log and using weapons (you can use some through telekinesis but you can't wield them for some bizarre reason). I saw some reviews saying choice and consequence isn't really that impactful either. Clans seems to be just unique skill trees for combat and minor fluff in the dialogue

Choice and consequence is more or less non existent in bloodlines 1 as well. It was always style over substance

 

[adamsapple]

How many features do you want to include? Trying to modernise the first bloodlines into a 2025 game with all those things doesn't work without the budget of a proper AAA game.

Probably why the first studio ended up failing.

Making a game that doesn't play, look and feel like a game from 2004?

It's missing what? Stats and skill checks? Bloodlines 1 wasn't a deep RPG either.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

See me in the next Xbox thread. I'll fucking show you relaxed

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

This is Ass of Can Whooping 's Mindseye

Just wait until the OT

 

[Denton]

Reading the PC Gamer review, it does not sound bad, but what the fuck is that about the sidequests being fetch quest BS?
Did Chinese Room ever play the original? Its sidequests were brilliant! And that game was made by a team of 20 people on near non-existen budget in like 3 years on completely new unproven engine that was being built by another company for a shooter!

 

[Wilhelm_85]

Damn... what a shame, although not surprising given its saga of development hell. Maybe I'll check this out down the road on a deep sale.

 

[Kacho]

Just wait until the OT

Go full MMaRsu

 

[LordCBH]

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Go full MMaRsu

My policy is usually to only get banned in xbox threads but might make an exception here. Depends what retard i'm dealing with.

 

[Kacho]

My policy is usually to only get banned in xbox threads but might make an exception here. Depends what retard i'm dealing with.

Ok I take that back. Don't get yourself banned over it but be very spirited in your defense.

 

[Revolutionary]

Not surprised considering the preview impressions.

 

[Krathoon]

Yeah. This is getting average reviews. Sooo, seems to be not as cool as the original.

 

[Krathoon]

Reading the PC Gamer review, it does not sound bad, but what the fuck is that about the sidequests being fetch quest BS?
Did Chinese Room ever play the original? Its sidequests were brilliant! And that game was made by a team of 20 people on near non-existen budget in like 3 years on completely new unproven engine that was being built by another company for a shooter!

Yeah. Part of the charm of an RPG is to have some cool side quests. Bethesda gets that.

 

[March Climber]

Looking forward to the definitive edition after tons of changes and patches, in about 12 to 24 months.

All at the low price of 4.99.

 

[GHG]

My policy is usually to only get banned in xbox threads but might make an exception here. Depends what retard i'm dealing with.

Punished Miku it's your time to shine.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Punished Miku it's your time to shine.

On the contrary looks like it'll be a Ass and Miku team up against you retards.

Double suicide it is

 

[Pagusas]

I dont get it. You had the blue print from the first game. The only things fans wanted was more of that, new stories, better graphics and maybe some better gameplay.

Instead you make this? What the fuck is wrong with you Skidmore.

 

[pudel]

Reading the PC Gamer review, it does not sound bad, but what the fuck is that about the sidequests being fetch quest BS?
Did Chinese Room ever play the original? Its sidequests were brilliant! And that game was made by a team of 20 people on near non-existen budget in like 3 years on completely new unproven engine that was being built by another company for a shooter!

2004 were different times, different people, different mindsets. Listened to a review of the first game by "Mortismal gaming" today and he said because of aforementioned...there will be never a game again like VtMB. Its pretty sad. I hope he is not right.