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[Sooner]

It's even sadder when you notice how Sony's cloud gaming service runs circles around Xbox's.

 

[Sooner]

Did Phil Spencer kill your dog or something?

No he's been too busy murdering Xbox to have time for animal cruelty.

 

[bitbydeath]

It's inevitable. In a world of Cloud Gaming, hardware exclusivity is irrelevant. Either Sony expands their Cloud, or gets left behind. And once they expand, might as well just port natively for those who prefer it.

PC, Cloud, Mobile are three pillars of gaming that Sony can't afford to ignore, they also know this.

Is Cloud not dead yet?

 

[Klayzer]

No he's been too busy murdering Xbox to have time for animal cruelty.

 

[jm89]

Did Phil Spencer kill your dog or something?

You know what got killed tobi?

 

[Heisenberg007]

 

[kikii]

those are gone in Finland aswell

only 4 pieces of Series S at biggest gaming online store

Xbox Series X ja Series S pelikonsolit - VPD Pelikauppa

Xbox Series Pelikonsolit edullisesti VPD Pelikaupasta. Meiltä saat Pelikonsolit nopealla toimituksella. Tutustu monipuoliseen valikoimaan!

www.vpd.fi

and overall biggest online store here doesnt even have xbox listed

Pelikonsolit

Pelikonsolit ja lisätarvikkeet Verkkiksestä. Kattavasta tosipelaajien valikoimastamme löydät muun muassa Nintendo Switch-, PS4-, PS5- sekä Xbox Series X ja S -konsolit lisätarvikkeineen.

www.verkkokauppa.com

 

[bitbydeath]

What did it say?

 

[Heisenberg007]

What did it say?

Oh wow they removed it?! WTF lol

This guy posted his local Walmart's redesigned layout, which did not have an Xbox section anymore. The new layout only PlayStation and Nintendo sections.

 

[Three]

If systems are being sent back to MS seemingly around the same time, something is happening that's not a coincidence, and will probably sidestep the optics of heavily discounted systems, it would signal "this brand failed". They would rather buy them back to use as servers or whatever. Of course Sega didn't have that luxury of spending cash to save face which is the Xbox business model

They did the same thing with starfield discs if you remember. Instead of letting the retailers sell them at heavy discounts they ordered them to destroy discs and covered costs.

 

[demigod]

They did the same thing with starfield discs if you remember. Instead of letting the retailers sell them at heavy discounts they ordered them to destroy discs and covered costs.

I must've missed that, when was this?

 

[Three]

I must've missed that, when was this?

It was 2 years ago at Walmart I believe. There was some misunderstanding from Wario64 that you could buy them for $0.3 but that wasn't true. Walmart just threw out/destroyed the discs under MS's instructions.

Found it

 

[BlackTron]

Come get us ahahahahah

Make no mistake, I will not hesitate to mention names if MS seek my help with their investigation.

Curiously you're the one trying to stifle speech here by suggesting I be removed.
At no point did I state forum posters here would be sued. Several joked about it themselves though!

Directly from Microsoft's playbook. Strongly imply your meaning without directly stating it, leaving an escape route to backpedal through if needed later, like a lawyer. It's actually the exact same move as the article. You sure you aren't from the same ancient ninja school as Phil?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

You know what got killed tobi?

Wasn't that guy the co pilot of that aircraft when the engines stalled and it began its death spiral and couldn't help get the engines restarted?

Then during its descent jumped out hoping his Acti parachute would save him only to land completely out of the gaming safe zone?

Maybe I am thinking someone else

 

[Zacfoldor]

It's inevitable. In a world of Cloud Gaming, hardware exclusivity is irrelevant. Either Sony expands their Cloud, or gets left behind. And once they expand, might as well just port natively for those who prefer it.

PC, Cloud, Mobile are three pillars of gaming that Sony can't afford to ignore, they also know this.

Why can't Cloud Gaming have exclusives?

Also cloud gaming sucks due to increased latency caused by the unavoidable laws of physics.

You need a big enough ignorant audience to ignore that fact for cloud gaming to work.

That audience will never coalesce.

 

[Det]

Did Phil Spencer kill your dog or something?

He evangelized you, and I'm trying to get you out of the cult.

You had a typical cult member's reaction when their leader is criticized.

Curiously you're the one trying to stifle speech here by suggesting I be removed.
At no point did I state forum posters here would be sued. Several joked about it themselves though!

Directly from Microsoft's playbook. Strongly imply your meaning without directly stating it, leaving an escape route to backpedal through if needed later, like a lawyer. It's actually the exact same move as the article. You sure you aren't from the same ancient ninja school as Phil?

Forget it, stay in the sect, m14... you deserve to die on the sinking Titanic.

 

[Det]

Every platform gets its own share of FUD. Its always been that way. Before the switch 1 and PS4 launched they were both deemed DOA and that xbox would run away with it. Before the PS5 launched, they said everything would run better on the Xbox and that it would be the leading platform; they also said that PlayStation would not be able to compete with gamepass and all that. Even right now, some would have you believe that the best performing PlayStation generation is actually its worst performing one, and that at this rate, the PS6 will be a clusterfuck.

Or that long-standing meme of PlayStation having no games. Everyone gets their share of FUD.

The problem with MS and Xbox is that their choices actually perpetuate said FUD.

We said gamepass was not a sustainable model and that in addition to prices having to inevitably go up that it would cannibalize physical sales as far back in 2019. Now look at whats happened. It was said that them releasing all their games day and date on the PC and gamepass, waters down the value of their platform not strengthens it... now look what's happened. We said that their userbase is not enough to support their platform, especially after spending more money than PlayStation/Nintendo makes in 3 years to buy one publisher, and that they would end up having to release their games on other platforms like the PlayStation, even after MS vehement denial, and then cagey concessions... look what's happened.

Of every 5 things that is said about MS/Xbox that could be considered as FUD, at least 4 of them come to pass. See how ludicrous it is to think that this is all happening because some people are just spreading FUD? Naaaaa.... this is on MS, and its not even about them seeking out the "actors" and shutting it down... nope, that kinda siege mentality is the last thing they need now. What they need is to start doing shit right... ensure that for every bad thing that can be said, at least one good thing can be said too.

Microsoft FUDs the competition and has toxic positivity about itself

 

[Comandr]

We've been through this before

Except Sega wasn't doing seemingly everything in their power to piss off and betray the trust of their customer base. They weren't screaming at the tops their lungs that their exclusives meant exclusives - only for months later those to appear on rival systems. They weren't buying landmark developers only to effectively destroy them. The Dreamcast was an unfortunate victim of circumstance. It still produced some of the most inventive and memorable games. Many franchises of which have sadly died with it.

 

[bitbydeath]

Except Sega wasn't doing seemingly everything in their power to piss off and betray the trust of their customer base. They weren't screaming at the tops their lungs that their exclusives meant exclusives - only for months later those to appear on rival systems. They weren't buying landmark developers only to effectively destroy them. The Dreamcast was an unfortunate victim of circumstance. It still produced some of the most inventive and memorable games. Many franchises of which have sadly died with it.

Didn't get a chance after Microsoft choked the remaining life out of them.

 

[reinking]

I made it to the two Walmarts in my town tonight. I am happy to report that one of them had 3 Xbox Series S and 1 Xbox Series X. The other had 1 Xbox Series S. Both had a small selection of games in their very own Xbox branded case.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

 

[Heisenberg007]

Inb4 Jez "leave my $3 trillion corporation alone" Corden comes now.

 

[Sertyak]

Microsoft should come and see the situation in Europe. Pretty much since 2023 Xbox has started to completely disappear from retail stores, and now I don't think there are even dedicated sections anymore.

You only see PlayStation, Nintendo and PC gaming sections nowadays.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Oh no are we back to the multi store secret memo?

 

[RoboFu]

I think it has a little to do with Xbox becoming mainly a digital platform. I will be surprised if their next console even has a physical game option. ( if there is a next xbox console). It really makes sense if they want to be on all platforms.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

I think it has little to do with Xbox becoming mainly a digital platform. I will be surprised if their next console even has a physical game option. ( if there is a next xbox console). It really makes sense if they want to be on all platforms.

They've been desperate to kill ownership since before that E3 2013 bullshit.

Do they even manufacture models with disc drives any more?

 

[PSFore]

More stores are abandoning Xbox, but it won't be a reality for Jez Corden until Microsoft sends out a press release about it.

 

[Revreign]

It's weird to deny it, when you can physically walk into these retailers and see that the Xbox section is gone. Most of my nearby retailers have removed their Xbox sections. It's just PS and Nintendo, and maybe a small PC section depending where.

 

[Heisenberg007]

More stores are abandoning Xbox, but it won't be a reality for Jez Corden until Microsoft sends out a press release about it.

And at that point, Jez will write an article explaining why Xbox not being available in stores is actually a hidden brilliant move for the consumers.

 

[IntentionalPun]

They did the same thing with starfield discs if you remember. Instead of letting the retailers sell them at heavy discounts they ordered them to destroy discs and covered costs.

This is a really common practice dating way back to old physical media.

 

[Ellis]

More stores are abandoning Xbox, but it won't be a reality for Jez Corden until Microsoft sends out a press release about it.

He's British. He can see this happening right now in GAME. The only dedicated high street game store we have left.

Xbox sections are becoming near non existent. Sure, most of us don't buy our consoles in there, but parents definitely do around the holidays for their kids.
It's all headsets and and third party controllers on the few shelves they do have.

 

[Topher]

"There is no Microsoft Xbox section here"

As he walks right in front of the big green section with Xbox game gift cards a Minecraft display

Smash JT should be on perma-ignore

 

[mckmas8808]

Oh no are we back to the multi store secret memo?

It has to be something though. These stores are not restocking. And it must be for a reason.

"There is no Microsoft Xbox section here"

As he walks right in front of the big green section with Xbox game gift cards a Minecraft display

Smash JT should be on perma-ignore

I don't know the guy, but Topher you know better and you know what he's saying. We don't have to play dumb here.

 

[Ramiro_Rodriguez]

those are gone in Finland aswell

only 4 pieces of Series S at biggest gaming online store

~5 days later and a console is still in stock.
Does it even make a difference if the console is avaible or not?

 

[mayham2199]

"There is no Microsoft Xbox section here"

As he walks right in front of the big green section with Xbox game gift cards a Minecraft display

Smash JT should be on perma-ignore

Yea it just seems like no Targets really have the console anymore. I can only find 3 Series S's within 50 miles of my location. Which includes one of the largest cities in the US. So I'm not out in the boonies. Can't find Series X at all.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

"There is no Microsoft Xbox section here"

As he walks right in front of the big green section with Xbox game gift cards a Minecraft display

Smash JT should be on perma-ignore

I thought the same thing as literally the only thing I didn't see were consoles but then I realized who the Tweet was from and who posted it here

It has to be something though. These stores are not restocking. And it must be for a reason.

It means they had no consoles in stock for whatever reason

I can walk into 2 local Best Buys and a WalMart or two and see Xbox consoles

I dunno what to tell people

 

[mckmas8808]

It means they had no consoles in stock for whatever reason

I can walk into 2 local Best Buys and a WalMart or two and see Xbox consoles

I dunno what to tell people

The bolded is what I'm interested in. Between now and Black Friday, we'll have the answers we all are looking for. Even if Microsoft doesn't explicitly say anything. Nobody would want to miss selling as much as possible during Black Friday.

And that's a little over 1 month away.

 

[mayham2199]

The bolded is what I'm interested in. Between now and Black Friday, we'll have the answers we all are looking for. Even if Microsoft doesn't explicitly say anything. Nobody would want to miss selling as much as possible during Black Friday.

And that's a little over 1 month away.

if I had to guess they are barely making them anymore and are focusing on shipping them to the stores where they sell the best.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The bolded is what I'm interested in. Between now and Black Friday, we'll have the answers we all are looking for. Even if Microsoft doesn't explicitly say anything. Nobody would want to miss selling as much as possible during Black Friday.

And that's a little over 1 month away.

People are just fishing and hoping and trying to console war imo

Could be many reasons why these stores do not have stock and one of the very least likely scenarios is MS told these retailers they are no longer making consoles

 

[Topher]

Yea it just seems like no Targets really have the console anymore. I can only find 3 Series S's within 50 miles of my location. Which includes one of the largest cities in the US. So I'm not out in the boonies. Can't find Series X at all.

The Best Buys in my area have plenty of XSS. No XSX. But my Best BBuy doesn't have the consoles locked up on the shelves any more. They are behind the counter. Same with a lot of games. Probably due to theft. So taking a camera around and looking at shelves isn't going to prove a thing.

But again, this is Smash JT. The same guy who was sent a fake email by a guy pretending to be a Ubisoft developer and Smash bought it hook line and sinker without checking to see if it was legit. He is a sensationalist. Half of these youtubers were shitty used car salesmen in another life, I'm convinced.

 

[mckmas8808]

People are just fishing and hoping and trying to console war imo

Could be many reasons why these stores do not have stock and one of the very least likely scenarios is MS told these retailers they are no longer making consoles

I think most of GAF agrees with the bolded. But there's zero percent chance people are just fishing for console wars. Costco has said they will stop selling Xbox Series consoles.

Destin confirmed it



So, yeah I agree with you that MS didn't tell them to stop selling them. But Costco is not selling Xbox consoles in both North America and the UK. That's two of Xbox's biggest and most important countries. Somebody knows something. And somebody is gonna tell it!

Some of this could clear up after Microsoft's next earnings call this October 29th. But we'll 1000% know after the January 28th 2026 earnings call.

 

[Sooner]

People are just fishing and hoping and trying to console war imo

Could be many reasons why these stores do not have stock and one of the very least likely scenarios is MS told these retailers they are no longer making consoles

The reasons are they are selling out or they aren't getting stock.

And it absolutely isn't the first one.

 

[LectureMaster]

Half of these youtubers were shitty used car salesmen in another life, I'm convinced.

Honestly after all those dramas with all those "based gaming YouTubers" or " grifters" (depends on which side you are lol)

Only Asmongold has a consistent logics.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The reasons are they are selling out or they aren't getting stock.

And it absolutely isn't the first one.

Oh they aren't getting stock and they sure aren't selling out, there is zero debate about that

But I should bow out, people have their agendas

 

[mayham2199]

The Best Buys in my area have plenty of XSS. No XSX. But my Best BBuy doesn't have the consoles locked up on the shelves any more. They are behind the counter. Same with a lot of games. Probably due to theft. So taking a camera around and looking at shelves isn't going to prove a thing.

But again, this is Smash JT. The same guy who was sent a fake email by a guy pretending to be a Ubisoft developer and Smash bought it hook line and sinker without checking to see if it was legit. He is a sensationalist. Half of these youtubers were shitty used car salesmen in another life, I'm convinced.

Yea after what HeisenbergFX4 said I checked Best Buy and they have everything listed as ready for pick up in 1 hour.

 

[Topher]

Oh they aren't getting stock and they sure aren't selling out, there is zero debate about that

But I should bow out, people have their agendas

It should be pointed out that the topic of Xbox availability has been going on for a couple of years now.

Thread 'Xbox Series X: Microsoft Appears To Be Facing Limited Supply [Tech4gamers]'

Feb 24, 2023

https://tech4gamers.com/microsoft-xbox-series-x-supply-problems/

The Xbox Series X serves as Microsoft's flagship console to provide the best gaming experience from the company yet. With the best gaming hardware and services like Xbox Game Pass, Microsoft hopes to match console rivals like PlayStation and Nintendo.

Despite the goal to take back market share with a powerful console like the Xbox Series X, Xbox may be facing limited supply for the flagship console.



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[HeisenbergFX4]

Oh and likely posted somewhere in one of these threads but in her interview with Variety a couple of days ago Bond again confirmed next gen was being developed

"The announcement of the ROG Xbox Allys and Xbox's partnership with Asus also sparked some confusion over whether Xbox was out of the in-house-made console game. Bond confirms the Xbox team is still hard at work on its next-gen consoles, the follow-ups to the Xbox Series S and X, and there's even the possibility of internally made handhelds."

"We are 100% looking at making things in the future," Bond said. "We have our next-gen hardware in development. We've been looking at prototyping, designing. We have a partnership we've announced with AMD around it, so that is coming. What we saw here was an opportunity to innovate in a new way and to bring gamers another choice, in addition to our next-gen hardware. We are always listening to what players and creators want. When there is demand for innovation, we're going to build it."


https://variety.com/2025/digital/ne...se-president-sarah-bond-interview-1236555575/

 

[StereoVsn]

Oh and likely posted somewhere in one of these threads but in her interview with Variety a couple of days ago Bond again confirmed next gen was being developed

"The announcement of the ROG Xbox Allys and Xbox's partnership with Asus also sparked some confusion over whether Xbox was out of the in-house-made console game. Bond confirms the Xbox team is still hard at work on its next-gen consoles, the follow-ups to the Xbox Series S and X, and there's even the possibility of internally made handhelds."

"We are 100% looking at making things in the future," Bond said. "We have our next-gen hardware in development. We've been looking at prototyping, designing. We have a partnership we've announced with AMD around it, so that is coming. What we saw here was an opportunity to innovate in a new way and to bring gamers another choice, in addition to our next-gen hardware. We are always listening to what players and creators want. When there is demand for innovation, we're going to build it."


https://variety.com/2025/digital/ne...se-president-sarah-bond-interview-1236555575/

I can't see them completely dropping Xbox BC and that is not going to happen on a "PC" due to licensing.

So MS is very likely to have some hybrid hardware they can call Xbox from publisher perspective. It may still be very pricey (like $900-1000), but they got to have the capability, IMO.

 

[onQ123]

I believe they're cutting their losses with Series consoles & will also try to leverage the small break between now & the release of the next Xbox Device to build up demand.

 

[bitbydeath]

People are just fishing and hoping and trying to console war imo

Could be many reasons why these stores do not have stock and one of the very least likely scenarios is MS told these retailers they are no longer making consoles

I'd agree with you if the biggest gaming chain in Australia also hadn't removed them. Australia was always considered as one of Xbox's strongholds, alongside the US and UK.