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[Peroroncino]

Twitch CEO on women's safety:

crusty old man pretending to be peter pan

 

[rkofan87]

I thought about this in a few years ago after there was a YouTube personality that was singing that went to some concert to perform that was murdered. One of the biggest problems with social media as you have people allowing people to have an almost ridiculous amount of access to them in regards to videotaping where they stay, live, their areas and all of this information without actually having the financial luxury of having the security to protect themselves against these weirdos in the first place.

So the biggest celebrities that make millions of dollars are allowed to videotape all of their lives because clearly they also have the security to support that type of access

But if you're just a random person on YouTube or twitch you're not making that type of money and you're providing this ridiculous amount of access to yourself to people online, There is going to be weirdos that will take advantage of this information.

I do agree that Twitch needs to have higher security because they need to understand millions of people are watching those streams, Despite the majority of those streamers not being millionaires that can afford some big amount of security, This is a major L for the company because it shows they're not willing to keep their brand and people who represent them safe despite knowing the large amount of individuals that know them.

Its even more weird cause they from what I understand stopped them from having their own personal security at the event.

(I don't even understand how having more Security would be a negative thing)

sadly twitch is more worried about being sued than people's safety.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[evanft]

Let me make something clear. Calling these people "creators" is a stretch. They're not creating anything. No one is watching them because of their awesome MLG-level gameplay, interesting commentary, or personality. And why would they? Most of these women have never had a real job in their entire lives. They went from high school to streaming without ever having to exist in the real world. Their entire careers are built on farming lonely, socially-inept men who spend their time gooning to their live streams. They dress up as underage anime girls and then pretend like they had no idea they were building this sort of community.

This was, frankly, inevitable. I'm shocked it hasn't happened before or more often. You simply can't control a community of this size.

 

[GymWolf]

Dan clancy's barely six 3: a-teen sword.

(Not everyone is gonna get this one)

 

[Paasei]

The general Twitch audience/chat is so retarded it kills the entire thing for me. Disgusting this shit happens. Why, as a streamer, even bother going to TwitchCon?

I use Twitch as a source to see gameplay of whatever game I might want to get. And it's great for that. There isn't a whole lot more to it for me. Crazy to see people are so obsessed over this to even commit crimes. Wtf...

 

[Toots]

This obsessed nerd seems to be pulling a blue eyes white dragon card, maybe he just wanted to show her he understood the Heart of the Cards ?

Jokes aside, all this is on the security contractor. People were paid to secure the event and messed up. The fact this happened is a serious misconduct by the contractor.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

Interesting seeing some guys in this thread being exactly the type that thinks this is ok.

 

[Alexios]

Interesting seeing some guys in this thread being exactly the type that thinks this is ok.

Some folks online seem just shy of openly posting "deserved, I'd do it with no remorse as revenge for not having a chance with them after paying for their OF". Should (be pushed by family and friends to) pay for therapy instead.

 

[MarV0]

Some folks online seem just shy of openly posting "deserved, I'd do it with no remorse as revenge for not having a chance with them after paying for their OF". Should (be pushed by family and friends to) pay for therapy instead.

No she did not deserve it and its not OK but it is hilarious that people are melting down over a hug because they hate Twitch and streamer culture.

Some of you are still waiting for the "hugger" criminal to be arrested

 

[Minari]

Gaming News eh?

 

[Trilobit]

No she did not deserve it and its not OK but it is hilarious that people are melting down over a hug because they hate Twitch and streamer culture.

Some of you are still waiting for the "hugger" criminal to be arrested

According to Emiru he did try to kiss her. What's up with you trying to downplay it?

 

[RoboFu]

No she did not deserve it and its not OK but it is hilarious that people are melting down over a hug because they hate Twitch and streamer culture.

Some of you are still waiting for the "hugger" criminal to be arrested

Grabbing her face and trying to kiss her is a hug?

 

[Peroroncino]

Gaming News eh?

According to Emiru he did try to kiss her. What's up with you trying to downplay it?

I mean this should've been obvious to anybody with working eyeballs, wtf is wrong with people.

 

[Randall365]

Let me make something clear. Calling these people "creators" is a stretch. They're not creating anything. No one is watching them because of their awesome MLG-level gameplay, interesting commentary, or personality. And why would they? Most of these women have never had a real job in their entire lives. They went from high school to streaming without ever having to exist in the real world. Their entire careers are built on farming lonely, socially-inept men who spend their time gooning to their live streams. They dress up as underage anime girls and then pretend like they had no idea they were building this sort of community.

This was, frankly, inevitable. I'm shocked it hasn't happened before or more often. You simply can't control a community of this size.

It's more like a lap dancing club really - to some extent - guys paying hundreds - maybe even thousands of pounds, because they want something they are not going to get. The dancers would never meet the guys out back in a casual setting, as it would obviously kick off with some of them and some would be unhinged - having a con like this is probably a terrible idea. They should keep as far away from the "fans" as possible, unless they choose to run their own event and have a shitload of security and an exit strategy in place.

 

[PlayStaytion]

Pretty ironic that the roach king might have been living in his attic all the time, but he is lot more wiser than many out there.

Understand their culture first, these people think they could shift to different dimensions casually like what you see in Dragon Ball anime, these people take spirituality way too seriously.

 

[Ulysses 31]

Gaming News eh?

 

[Loope]

What.....the......fuck!

 

[Chuck Berry]

Now what's more shocking, the assault or the average Twitch simp that actually goes to these events?

Imagine the smell at these things

Good lord and christ

 

[AJUMP23]

No idea who this person is, but that is weird and messed up that security was awful and did essentially nothing.

 

[near]

Let me make something clear. Calling these people "creators" is a stretch. They're not creating anything. No one is watching them because of their awesome MLG-level gameplay, interesting commentary, or personality. And why would they? Most of these women have never had a real job in their entire lives. They went from high school to streaming without ever having to exist in the real world. Their entire careers are built on farming lonely, socially-inept men who spend their time gooning to their live streams. They dress up as underage anime girls and then pretend like they had no idea they were building this sort of community.

This was, frankly, inevitable. I'm shocked it hasn't happened before or more often. You simply can't control a community of this size.

Emiru and other women on Twitch are content creators, whether you consider them to be or not. Streamers build and maintain communities and create experiences in real time, it doesn't matter if that content is gameplay, 'just chatting', or cooking. The process is creative work. Just because their content doesn't fit your personal idea of what's worth consuming doesn't make it any less creative.

Dismissing them as people who have "never had a real job" ignores the reality that streaming is a job. A job that demands long hours, self management, technical skills and public engagement. I'd argue a lot of traditional jobs don't require anywhere near that level of creative and emotional labour.

Emiru isn't an Only Fans star, she is a Twitch streamer. And I think calling what happened to her "inevitable" is deeply strange and inappropriate way to describe sexual assault. It's a failure of event security, Twitch's accountability and basic respect for streamers as human beings.

Ultimately, reducing her success to cynicism and victim blaming doesn't make you objective, it just proves how uncomfortable you and others are still with streamers thriving in public spaces/discourse.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Emiru and other women on Twitch are content creators, whether you consider them to be or not. Streamers build and maintain communities and create experiences in real time, it doesn't matter if that content is gameplay, 'just chatting', or cooking. The process is creative work. Just because their content doesn't fit your personal idea of what's worth consuming doesn't make it any less creative.

Dismissing them as people who have "never had a real job" ignores the reality that streaming is a job. A job that demands long hours, self management, technical skills and public engagement. I'd argue a lot of traditional jobs don't require anywhere near that level of creative and emotional labour.

Emiru isn't an Only Fans star, she is a Twitch streamer. And I think calling what happened to her "inevitable" is deeply strange and inappropriate way to describe sexual assault. It's a failure of event security, Twitch's accountability and basic respect for streamers as human beings.

Ultimately, reducing her success to cynicism and victim blaming doesn't make you objective, it just proves how uncomfortable you and others are still with streamers thriving in public spaces/discourse.

This comes across as some real "leave my girl alone" shit

Jesus dude, how much money and how many gifts have you given to her?

 

[near]

This comes across as some real "leave my girl alone" shit

Jesus dude, how much money and how many gifts have you given to her?

You don't have to be a simp to recognise when someone is being treated unfairly. Defending someone from blatant victim blaming isn't simping which is what I think you're suggesting. It's just basic decency.

I recall similar deflections when I defended Dr. Disrespect in that controversy.

 

[Celcius]

No she did not deserve it and its not OK but it is hilarious that people are melting down over a hug because they hate Twitch and streamer culture.

Some of you are still waiting for the "hugger" criminal to be arrested

That wasn't a hug and you should get a ban

 

[Chuck Berry]

You don't have to be a simp to recognise when someone is being treated unfairly. Defending someone from blatant victim blaming isn't simping which is what I think you're suggesting. It's just basic decency.

I recall similar deflections when I defended Dr. Disrespect in that controversy.

Speaking of deflections, way to avoid my question

 

[adamsapple]

No she did not deserve it and its not OK but it is hilarious that people are melting down over a hug because they hate Twitch and streamer culture.

Some of you are still waiting for the "hugger" criminal to be arrested

So it's a hug now?

A few pages back you were saying you greet people with kisses where you're from.

Then my wife assaults me every day.

In all seriousness so many SIMPS in this thread. You call that assault? We greet each other with kisses where I come from.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Imagine the smell at these things

Good lord and christ

The scents in that venue have an extremely high sulphur/methane content.

 

[Zacfoldor]

I'm not reading 10 pages but it looks like dude tried to plant one on this neo celeb and then instead of being ashamed of what he had done, he whipped something out of his pocket like he was the one who was ready to fight.

What a jackass. Reminds me of drunk behavior. Was this pathetic boy an alcoholic?

 

[Chuck Berry]

The scents in that venue have an extremely high sulphur/methane content.

I imagine it's a smorgasbord scent combination of nothing but B.O., tartar breath, musty boxers with skidmarks, stale farts, old corn chips, and cheap cigarettes.

 

[jzbadblood]

There's not a single normal person in this fucking venue to begin with. We have a real serious virginity crisis on our hands.

 

[calico]

I think this idea that any amount of advocacy for risk prevention and taking steps to ensure one's own safety amounts to 'victim blaming' is very dangerous and needs to stop.

You should be able to leave your doors unlocked at night without fear of anything bad happening; you cannot and in all but the safest areas it would be retarded of you to do so. The blame still rests with the perpetrator if something happens, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be taking steps to minimise the risk to yourself or encouraging others to take steps to minimise the risk to themselves.

For much of the audience these girls are not content creators; they are the content. If you are making a living selling flirting, pretend companionship, showing some tit etc. to desperately lonely men, it is going to inevitably be risky for you to be in close proximity with your audience. This risk has been understood for as long as there has been sex work, sex-adjacent work, 'companionship' work.

I suspect it is all but impossible to truly protect these women in an environment like this with an audience like this, without taking measures which would render the event pretty pointless. The sensible option is to recognise that sometimes meeting the audience is just not a good idea.

 

[adamsapple]

I suspect it is all but impossible to truly protect these women in an environment like this with an audience like this, without taking measures which would render the event pretty pointless. The sensible option is to recognise that sometimes meeting the audience is just not a good idea.

er ... that's what the event security is supposed to be there for, which was woefully lacking in this case.

they let the guy cut a line, walk right past other people in it and walk right up to the 'talent', a good security would never let that happen in .. say a concert or something.

 

[jzbadblood]

The guy traveling to this thing to pay $100 to hover hand next to her is just as much of a criminal

 

[calico]

er ... that's what the event security is supposed to be there for, which was woefully lacking in this case.

they let the guy cut a line, walk right past other people in it and walk right up to the 'talent', a good security would never let that happen in .. say a concert or something.

Happened to Billie Eilish like a week ago at a concert, and the typical concert audience isn't mainly comprised of people who should be on a watchlist.

They can improve security for sure. Can they realistically improve it to a level where these women will be genuinely safe in physical proximity to their audience? Imo no, the relationship they have with their audience is too weird and the volume of potential threats is too high.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

crusty old man pretending to be peter pan

This looks creepy and seems so wrong on so many levels.

 

[Draugoth]

If anything Emiru is dumb lucky, if the guy had a knife she and the security guy would be dead.

Let me make something clear. Calling these people "creators" is a stretch. They're not creating anything. No one is watching them because of their awesome MLG-level gameplay, interesting commentary, or personality. And why would they? Most of these women have never had a real job in their entire lives. They went from high school to streaming without ever having to exist in the real world. Their entire careers are built on farming lonely, socially-inept men who spend their time gooning to their live streams. They dress up as underage anime girls and then pretend like they had no idea they were building this sort of community.

This was, frankly, inevitable. I'm shocked it hasn't happened before or more often. You simply can't control a community of this size.

If anything just look at Amouranth, now that age is kicking at the door and no one watches her Twitch streams anymore she's trying to 'diversify' income.

I concur, pretty much everyone here is a horny men (idk if there's even women on GAF) but I can't understand why they would waste their times watching women doing nothing on Twitch.

 

[vodka-bull]

Dickhead. It's someone doing her job, you wouldn't do that to a cashier, bus driver or a window cleaner. Leave the acts alone.

Actually, these people get assaulted as well, if not even more, than famous personalities.

 

[Celcius]

If anything just look at Amouranth, now that age is kicking at the door and no one watches her Twitch streams anymore she's trying to 'diversify' income.

I don't think Amo's age is why people stopped watching. I think it's because of all the fake drama farming.

 

[RoboFu]

Do not forget the real issue here is Twitch didn't do anything about anything. the guy just walked offed.. allowed to roam free. no warning, no nothing.

 

[Soodanim]

Understand their culture first, these people think they could shift to different dimensions casually like what you see in Dragon Ball anime, these people take spirituality way too seriously.

What the fuck are you on about, brother?

 

[Hudo]

If anything just look at Amouranth, now that age is kicking at the door and no one watches her Twitch streams anymore she's trying to 'diversify' income.

Her Onlyfans isn't anything that special, tbh. At least judging by the videos that people leak from time to time. You might as well just watch some proper porn.

 

[rkofan87]

Gaming News eh?

she is a gamer so yes

 

[rkofan87]

It's more like a lap dancing club really - to some extent - guys paying hundreds - maybe even thousands of pounds, because they want something they are not going to get. The dancers would never meet the guys out back in a casual setting, as it would obviously kick off with some of them and some would be unhinged - having a con like this is probably a terrible idea. They should keep as far away from the "fans" as possible, unless they choose to run their own event and have a shitload of security and an exit strategy in place.

she does have simps but some just find her entertaining is the same thing as wanting to see pay for a movie that has your favorite actor

 

[adamsapple]

Do not forget the real issue here is Twitch didn't do anything about anything. the guy just walked offed.. allowed to roam free. no warning, no nothing.

yes, this is an issue on two fronts.

1. the guy
2. Twitch's terrible work from start to trying to brush it under the rug (they were just gonna give the guy's twitch account a 30 day ban, fucking lol)

 

[poodaddy]

I imagine it's a smorgasbord scent combination of nothing but B.O., tartar breath, musty boxers with skidmarks, stale farts, old corn chips, and cheap cigarettes.

 

[poodaddy]

Understand their culture first, these people think they could shift to different dimensions casually like what you see in Dragon Ball anime, these people take spirituality way too seriously.

 

[danklord]

Growing underage audiences on low effort content with parasocial behavior and triggers is certainly going to work out well.

 

[evanft]

Growing underage audiences on low effort content with parasocial behavior and triggers is certainly going to work out well.

And if you point this out, that somehow means you're a victim-blaming incel misogynist.

 

[Toots]

Growing underage audiences on low effort content with parasocial behavior and triggers is certainly going to work out well.

It's called being creative apparently.
Still this type of scummy behavior doesn't warrant assault of course.

 

[geary]

And if you point this out, that somehow means you're a victim-blaming incel misogynist.

People aren't kind by nature. History makes that painfully clear — cruelty, selfishness, and violence aren't exceptions, they're patterns.
The world some people imagine — one without malice, chaos, or broken minds — is just that: imagination. A fairytale. It's comforting, but it's not how reality operates.
The real world is messy, unpredictable, and often brutal. It doesn't reward good intentions or protect you just because you expect it to. Thinking it should is how people get hurt.
You can't change human nature with "expected behavior" or wishful thinking. The world doesn't bend to moral standards — it just is.
So the only real play is to move through it as best you can: stay alert, take care of yourself, and avoid situations where you're relying on others to behave "as they should." Reality doesn't care about expectations — only outcomes.

Now, apply that to streaming — especially IRL. When you put yourself out there, you're not just broadcasting your life, you're shaping a reality that your audience starts to live in too. And that comes with accountability. The content you put out, the tone you set, the boundaries you enforce — all of it creates the environment your viewers feed off.
If your stream attracts unstable or parasocial behavior, that's not just "the internet being weird." That's a reflection of the ecosystem you helped build. Streamers don't get to wash their hands of that. You can't farm attention, emotion, and intimacy for views and then act surprised when people blur the lines between reality and performance.
Real life — online or offline — is still life. It's messy, unpredictable, and doesn't owe you safety or fairness. No amount of "community guidelines" or "behavior expectations" will change human nature.

So take care of yourself. Understand that when you go live, you're not just filming — you're entering a social experiment with real consequences. Don't expect the audience, the world, or the platform to protect you. They won't. Reality doesn't care about expectations — only about the results of your actions.