Emiru assaulted at TwitchCon

calico said:
I think this idea that any amount of advocacy for risk prevention and taking steps to ensure one's own safety amounts to 'victim blaming' is very dangerous and needs to stop.

You should be able to leave your doors unlocked at night without fear of anything bad happening; you cannot and in all but the safest areas it would be retarded of you to do so. The blame still rests with the perpetrator if something happens, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be taking steps to minimise the risk to yourself or encouraging others to take steps to minimise the risk to themselves.

For much of the audience these girls are not content creators; they are the content. If you are making a living selling flirting, pretend companionship, showing some tit etc. to desperately lonely men, it is going to inevitably be risky for you to be in close proximity with your audience. This risk has been understood for as long as there has been sex work, sex-adjacent work, 'companionship' work.

I suspect it is all but impossible to truly protect these women in an environment like this with an audience like this, without taking measures which would render the event pretty pointless. The sensible option is to recognise that sometimes meeting the audience is just not a good idea.
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I'd say it depends on who she is, if she's respectful I'd say the pros outweigh the cons by a mile. Respectful women are still needed in the end otherwise men will stay invisible for eternity.
 
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I think it's obvious to what type of individual Twitch caters to, especially if that someone also attends things like TwitchCon. At the same time in the best start-up philosophy all the streamers are just disposable resource, you can see how badly they fail if they try to move out of the platform. People might love them enough to harass them, but not enough to type a different address in the browser, not to mention Twitch has other functionalities like Amazon Prime integrations, subs, etc.
 
I don't see the point in debating streamers or who they attract as an audience. There are dozens of Cons, with much stranger people attending, that don't have these problems. The entire point of security is to negate these fucking wierdos from being able to do anything bad. This is 100% a Twitch issue, not a customer issue. It's not Emiru's fault that Twitch is incompetent, regardless of who her audience is. And, btw, this isn't an isolated incident at TwitchCon, it was just the first time they got it on tape. This shit happens so much more at TwitchCon than any other conference, many of which have the same exact people attending.
 
calico said:
Happened to Billie Eilish like a week ago at a concert, and the typical concert audience isn't mainly comprised of people who should be on a watchlist.

They can improve security for sure. Can they realistically improve it to a level where these women will be genuinely safe in physical proximity to their audience? Imo no, the relationship they have with their audience is too weird and the volume of potential threats is too high.
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Disagree, you must be some umm... special individual to go to a billie eilish concert :lollipop_squinting:
 
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geary said:
People aren't kind by nature. History makes that painfully clear — cruelty, selfishness, and violence aren't exceptions, they're patterns.
The world some people imagine — one without malice, chaos, or broken minds — is just that: imagination. A fairytale. It's comforting, but it's not how reality operates.
The real world is messy, unpredictable, and often brutal. It doesn't reward good intentions or protect you just because you expect it to. Thinking it should is how people get hurt.
You can't change human nature with "expected behavior" or wishful thinking. The world doesn't bend to moral standards — it just is.
So the only real play is to move through it as best you can: stay alert, take care of yourself, and avoid situations where you're relying on others to behave "as they should." Reality doesn't care about expectations — only outcomes.

Now, apply that to streaming — especially IRL. When you put yourself out there, you're not just broadcasting your life, you're shaping a reality that your audience starts to live in too. And that comes with accountability. The content you put out, the tone you set, the boundaries you enforce — all of it creates the environment your viewers feed off.
If your stream attracts unstable or parasocial behavior, that's not just "the internet being weird." That's a reflection of the ecosystem you helped build. Streamers don't get to wash their hands of that. You can't farm attention, emotion, and intimacy for views and then act surprised when people blur the lines between reality and performance.
Real life — online or offline — is still life. It's messy, unpredictable, and doesn't owe you safety or fairness. No amount of "community guidelines" or "behavior expectations" will change human nature.

So take care of yourself. Understand that when you go live, you're not just filming — you're entering a social experiment with real consequences. Don't expect the audience, the world, or the platform to protect you. They won't. Reality doesn't care about expectations — only about the results of your actions.
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Cause most humanity taught using protocols when they speak, how they speak and where they speak. That will just create monstrous behaviors from my view point cause you'll definitely read comments that shouldn't be said no matter what.
 
Why is everyone so mortified that this Dan Clancy fellow went to a party after some dude decided to take the relationship further than hover hand with the thot?

Was everyone supposed to put their lives on hold because some minor incident happened that day?

I made some burritos after reading about this nothing situation on here, was that wrong?
 


The tweet in the video


Full statement
First, I want to be upfront and take accountability for the security incident that occurred during Emiru's Meet and Greet. It shouldn't have happened and we take that very seriously. We failed, both in allowing it to occur, and in our response following. We mismanaged our communications about the incident, and that includes the comments I made. I apologize to Emiru for all that took place.

What are we doing moving forward? For Meet and Greets, we've begun a complete analysis of the incident that took place, as well as other issues that came to our attention after TwitchCon concluded. We're examining everything, from how we do sign ups, to the layout, to increased security controls.

We're also doing a comprehensive review of overall event safety and security, and will be making updates for future TwitchCons. While we won't be sharing all security updates for privacy and safety reasons, we will keep our community informed about changes that directly impact attendees.

We have heard concerns about IRL streaming at TwitchCon. Twitch has evolved over the years, and IRL streaming is a part of Twitch. But, we need to ensure that TwitchCon meets the needs of a variety of participants. We will be reviewing how we handle IRL streaming at TwitchCon, and will have more to share soon.

Finally, we got clear feedback on accessibility across the event. We're reviewing with our teams, including our production and venue staff, so that we're better equipped for future events.

You put a lot of trust in us by attending TwitchCon, and we take our responsibility to keep you safe seriously. We know that TwitchCon means a lot to a lot of people, and it means a lot to us. Be on the lookout for more updates, and thanks for being a part of Twitch.

- Dan Clancy
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Well this got weirder and bad for Emiru as today she dropped the bomb on all the sexual assault and worse regarding Mizkif and her.

Holy buckets…
 
It's amazing how none of this drama finds me in my real life. Like...these people make it seem like you go outside and there's a 97% you're going to get stalked, raped, abducted, killed, radicalized, blow something up, get blown up, be involved in a shooting like....

It should be even EASIER to rich people to insulate their lives against inclement nonsense. But here we are.
 
Never heard of Mizkif but I suppose if she went through something at Twichcon and saw support she would mention other instances of abuse.

But it's still he said, she said stuff without proof, although stalking would be easy to prove with phone locations these days I imagine.
 
Hookshot said:
Never heard of Mizkif but I suppose if she went through something at Twichcon and saw support she would mention other instances of abuse.

But it's still he said, she said stuff without proof, although stalking would be easy to prove with phone locations these days I imagine.
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Seems there are some text messages floating around on Twitter currently with this guy text bombing her in an emotional pleading longing way, but that's far from proof of wrongdoing. We'll see.
 
Apparently they were in a relationship for quite some time? If so, this is he said/she said post-breakup relationship drama until proven otherwise.
 
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This is sketchy, almost everything she said was weird.

These two were grown people that had a relationship, and after breaking up, he came over and they kissed and hugged or whata fuck, he groped her and she screamed(?) and he stopped and left.

Calling that sexual assault is nutty. These two had been fucking for a year or whatever. Yes it's a taking advantage of the situation and she was crying, but she was into it as well, he didn't force anything.

That she said this public and branded it as sexual assault is so strange.
 
as someone whos a little bit older, i always saw all this streamer/youtuber/fans/community stuff as kind of weird. Of course not everyone is twisted, but for me at least it seems like a lot people who are constantly online and only live in that world (streamers and fans) end up becoming warped. It's sad and troubling that for some of these people having the "dream job" of just playing video games and making a boat load of money isnt enough.
 
kpopSuperstar said:
This is sketchy, almost everything she said was weird.

These two were grown people that had a relationship, and after breaking up, he came over and they kissed and hugged or whata fuck, he groped her and she screamed(?) and he stopped and left.

Calling that sexual assault is nutty. These two had been fucking for a year or whatever. Yes it's a taking advantage of the situation and she was crying, but she was into it as well, he didn't force anything.

That she said this public and branded it as sexual assault is so strange.
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She said she didn't like people she wasn't in a relationship with touching her but she let him. So were they in a relationship or not? Who knows.

He also didn't really do anything other than make a move. When she screamed he stopped, felt awkward and left.

"He didn't apologize or ask me if I was okay."

This whole situation sounds overblown and messy as a passerby. Not sure what she's hoping to accomplish here.

And this dudes career is probably toast.
 
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kpopSuperstar said:
This is sketchy, almost everything she said was weird.

These two were grown people that had a relationship, and after breaking up, he came over and they kissed and hugged or whata fuck, he groped her and she screamed(?) and he stopped and left.

Calling that sexual assault is nutty. These two had been fucking for a year or whatever. Yes it's a taking advantage of the situation and she was crying, but she was into it as well, he didn't force anything.

That she said this public and branded it as sexual assault is so strange.
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I believe the reason she came forward now is because more SA accusations against him have been building up from non-streamer women who don't have the reach that she does, and this entire Twitchcon thing emboldened her to tell her side of the story (which is over an hour long, not just the 2 minute clip you saw) so that he doesn't take advantage of more women.

He also gave her a black eye on a separate occasion btw
 
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The evolution of the "reality show" makes fans far more invested in the drama due to the parasocial aspect of these relationships. So🤷‍♂️. I just want some kind of karma to happen to Twitch because of their clear bias and unprofessionalism.
 
I've had boners at weird times too, so I could see Miz thinking I'll kiss her to make her feel better. Oh she's responding to this maybe I listen to my small head and go for innacourse.

She reacts against it, he stops, and bails out. Rightfully so. Situation is awkward and bad for both parties.

The correct thing would've been to never make a move on her during a crying moment. The second best move was to stop and take a hint. So he did that.

The other stories though like driving 150MPH, telling her when to go live or not, and his extremely fragile ego in general. He had deep seated issues and that will never get resolved. These people are in their 30s…

Miz is cooked but Rich is back.

If Rich's accuser is backing off and shit then I'm good with catching clips of Rich in my YT feed. Guy had some funny stories back in the day.
 
kpopSuperstar said:
This is sketchy, almost everything she said was weird.

These two were grown people that had a relationship, and after breaking up, he came over and they kissed and hugged or whata fuck, he groped her and she screamed(?) and he stopped and left.

Calling that sexual assault is nutty. These two had been fucking for a year or whatever. Yes it's a taking advantage of the situation and she was crying, but she was into it as well, he didn't force anything.

That she said this public and branded it as sexual assault is so strange.
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dam not looking god for her now the con incident aside
 
Mizkif is an enormous fucking loser and an abusive narcissist but that sexual assault accusation is why people don't and shouldn't take random accusations from women seriously

So her on and off ex-boyfriend kissed her, she didn't tell him to stop and when he tried to climb on top of her and groped her she suddenly screamed and he immediately stopped and left. And she called that a sexual assault

Are we at the point now where you can't even try to make a move on your ex after you've been kissing? WTF is this rotten fucking culture?
 
Sonik said:
Mizkif is an enormous fucking loser and an abusive narcissist but that sexual assault accusation is why people don't and shouldn't take random accusations from women seriously

So her on and off ex-boyfriend kissed her, she didn't tell him to stop and when he tried to climb on top of her and groped her she suddenly screamed and he immediately stopped and left. And she called that a sexual assault

Are we at the point now where you can't even try to make a move on your ex after you've been kissing? WTF is this rotten fucking culture?
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sadly yes believe all women
 
Arsic said:
I've had boners at weird times too, so I could see Miz thinking I'll kiss her to make her feel better. Oh she's responding to this maybe I listen to my small head and go for innacourse.

She reacts against it, he stops, and bails out. Rightfully so. Situation is awkward and bad for both parties.

The correct thing would've been to never make a move on her during a crying moment. The second best move was to stop and take a hint. So he did that.

The other stories though like driving 150MPH, telling her when to go live or not, and his extremely fragile ego in general. He had deep seated issues and that will never get resolved. These people are in their 30s…

Miz is cooked but Rich is back.

If Rich's accuser is backing off and shit then I'm good with catching clips of Rich in my YT feed. Guy had some funny stories back in the day.
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who is rich??
 
Kacho said:
She said she didn't like people she wasn't in a relationship with touching her but she let him. So were they in a relationship or not? Who knows.

He also didn't really do anything other than make a move. When she screamed he stopped, felt awkward and left.

"He didn't apologize or ask me if I was okay."

This whole situation sounds overblown and messy as a passerby. Not sure what's she hoping to accomplish here.
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I remember her some years ago when she looked like a 20 something year old, then she started to make herself look like shes 16 and do gooner cosplay stuff. She has been rich for a long time and basks in constant internet attention, I think she is just fragile, it's a weird lifestyle. Her friends are also idiot drama queens and likely makes her think this is serious shit.

She is almost 30 I think, and tries to look like a high-schooler. Always thought that was odd.

She looked her age before.

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kpopSuperstar said:
I remember her some years ago when she looked like a 20 something year old, then she started to make herself look like shes 16 and do gooner cosplay stuff. She has been rich for a long time and basks in constant internet attention, I think she is just fragile, it's a weird lifestyle. Her friends are also idiot drama queens and likely makes her think this is serious shit.

She is almost 30 I think, and tries to look like a high-schooler. Always thought that was odd.

She looked her age before.

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That's her in the bottom picture? Unrecognizable.
 
kpopSuperstar said:
I remember her some years ago when she looked like a 20 something year old, then she started to make herself look like shes 16 and do gooner cosplay stuff. She has been rich for a long time and basks in constant internet attention, I think she is just fragile, it's a weird lifestyle. Her friends are also idiot drama queens and likely makes her think this is serious shit.

She is almost 30 I think, and tries to look like a high-schooler. Always thought that was odd.

She looked her age before.

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Yo WTF!?
 
kpopSuperstar said:
I remember her some years ago when she looked like a 20 something year old, then she started to make herself look like shes 16 and do gooner cosplay stuff. She has been rich for a long time and basks in constant internet attention, I think she is just fragile, it's a weird lifestyle. Her friends are also idiot drama queens and likely makes her think this is serious shit.

She is almost 30 I think, and tries to look like a high-schooler. Always thought that was odd.

She looked her age before.

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That's mid 2010s, she was about 17. She's 27 now.
 
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