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[Musashipan]

And I sucked hard! Damn it's loud!
All those years of FPS videogames made no difference at all. Lol

9mm
DEagle 44
357 revolver
Kris Vector 40.

Kris was the funniest
Revolver i didn't like
Desert Eagle was nice

Next time I'm planning to try a shotgun and SKS.
Any tips on how to aim properly?
I swear I was aiming right!

 

[HAYA8U5A]

 

[dave_d]

I might as well ask the add on question. How accurate is shooting a real gun to shooting in a game like gun club?(It's a vr game. I can't hit anything unless I slow down, use my dominant eye and line up the sites on the pistol)

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I've only shot once in my life. At one of those Vegas tourist trap places. Pay like $150 US and get like 2 minutes worth of shooting 3 guns. I think the package was like 70 bullets worth. Like $2/bullet. Goes fast.

 

[raduque]

I might as well ask the add on question. How accurate is shooting a real gun to shooting in a game like gun club?(It's a vr game. I can't hit anything unless I slow down, use my dominant eye and line up the sites on the pistol)

Much easier in game because there's no weight or kick, and the sound isn't nearly as loud.

 

[bitbydeath]

I went skeet shooting once with a rifle, it is hard. I probably only hit 2 or 3 out of 10!

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Much easier in game because there's no weight or kick, and the sound isn't nearly as loud.

When I did the Vegas strip shooting, I shot an M4 or M16, an SMG and a pistol.

The hardest one was the pistol. Big kick. As a total gun noob I thought the big M4/M16 would be the hardest one to shoot. It was actually the easiest! All my buddies who did it too thought the same.

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

That's why The Predator uses a laser.

 

[CGNoire]

And I sucked hard! Damn it's loud!
All those years of FPS videogames made no difference at all. Lol

9mm
DEagle 44
357 revolver
Kris Vector 40.

Kris was the funniest
Revolver i didn't like
Desert Eagle was nice

Next time I'm planning to try a shotgun and SKS.
Any tips on how to aim properly?
I swear I was aiming right!

Tell me you wore earplugs?
If those arent enough wear earplugs and put ear protective muffs on top of those.

 

[CGNoire]

I've only shot once in my life. At one of those Vegas tourist trap places. Pay like $150 US and get like 2 minutes worth of shooting 3 guns. I think the package was like 70 bullets worth. Like $2/bullet. Goes fast.

You got ripped off big time with those prices.

In Texas its like $20 range fee and $15 per 50 rounds.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I don't own a gun myself but I've had both versions of the experience.

version A: brother-in-law who has a rather substantial income taking me to show off all his impressive handguns at a high-end indoor range. To his credit, very methodical and knowledgeable guy who made sure every piece of weaponry was handled with respect.

version B: we live out in the country, so we've had another couple from our church, when we were over for dinner, just want to get out a handgun and shoot at cans and things in their backyard. That scene has happened a couple of times. Much less structured but fun.

...and my son hunts deer now with his friends and one of the dads who is experienced / responsible. So guns are a fairly ordinary part of life if you live in a rural area.

 

[T-0800]

And I sucked hard! Damn it's loud!
All those years of FPS videogames made no difference at all. Lol

9mm
DEagle 44
357 revolver
Kris Vector 40.

Kris was the funniest
Revolver i didn't like
Desert Eagle was nice

Next time I'm planning to try a shotgun and SKS.
Any tips on how to aim properly?
I swear I was aiming right!

Try inverting the controls next time.

 

[DaciaJC]

Recoil anticipation is a bitch when you first start shooting. Being accurate with a handgun at ranges beyond, like, 10 meters is much more difficult than you might be led to believe watching movies or playing video games. And yeah, they are loud as fuck, even a dinky 9 mil, especially indoors. I remember I had tinnitus in my left ear for a good week or two after my first day of CPL training because I didn't have my ear plug fully inserted.

A couple of tips: ensure you have a solid grip where your non-dominant hand is providing most of your gripping pressure. Your shooting hand's thumb should be resting above like pictured.

Don't jerk the trigger. This will often cause you to subtly shift your aim as your muscles tighten. Rather apply a consistent amount of pressure as you smoothly squeeze it. You'll feel slow at first but over time, you'll become more efficient with the motion.

Also try to squeeze using the middle portion of your index finger, not near the finger tip or near the joint.

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

 

[TDiddyLive]

I can't hit anything unless I slow down, use my dominant eye and line up the sites on the pistol

Ummm… yeah… that's how guns work. As you get better, you can line up the sights quicker. The only realistic way to hit what you want with both eyes open is with a red dot, which is different training.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

DEagle 44
357 revolver

Don't these two have like crazy recoil? It's obvious you will not be able to fire properly if you don't have experience and your body can't compensate for the recoil.

 

[Trunx81]

2 Dollar per bullet, that´s crazy!

 

[GymWolf]

Isn't a desert eagle too much for a first time?

I heard this guns can fuck up your wrist if you are a complete noob and don't have the correct grip.

 

[StueyDuck]

And I sucked hard! Damn it's loud!
All those years of FPS videogames made no difference at all. Lol

9mm
DEagle 44
357 revolver
Kris Vector 40.

Kris was the funniest
Revolver i didn't like
Desert Eagle was nice

Next time I'm planning to try a shotgun and SKS.
Any tips on how to aim properly?
I swear I was aiming right!

Im not a military shooter, but most men their first time suck, because they trying hard to counter the recoil and focus on too much before pulling the trigger.

Usually women end up being more accurate their first time shooting because they dont care about any of that stuff and are all loosey goosey.

Again... not a pro shooter, just someone whose been on the odd hunting trip, like most things in life you get better by doing it more . Then you can deep dive into techniques

 

[jason10mm]

Couple of recs.

1, Get full wrap around eye pro and use plugs AND over ear muffs. Cut out as much sound and pressure waves against your face as possible. I'm guessing you are flinching a lot or over anticipating recoil.

2. Get a .22lr pistol and start with that. Focus on the front sight, the rear sight notch will align and the target should be blurry. Press the trigger with constant pressure, it should surprise you when it goes off. Hold the pistol with a firm grip, not a death choke (it ain't your dick).

3. You can try a red dot optic.

4. If the range allows it, slip some dummy rounds into your magazine or cylinder, even better if someone else does it so you don't know where, how many, or even IF there are dummy rounds. THen then you press the trigger and nothing happens, you will see if you are anticipating and the gun dips. Record yourself, lots of flaws can be revealed there.

5. Try a 1911 style pistol, 9mm, .45acp, whatever. That grip angle works magic for some folks.

 

[spookyfish]

Don't take this wrong way, but a shooting range thread just brings old classic to mind.

EDIT: Also -- you did NOT suck. I think that's pretty good for a first time. Keep at it!

 

[p_xavier]

And I sucked hard! Damn it's loud!
All those years of FPS videogames made no difference at all. Lol

9mm
DEagle 44
357 revolver
Kris Vector 40.

Kris was the funniest
Revolver i didn't like
Desert Eagle was nice

Next time I'm planning to try a shotgun and SKS.
Any tips on how to aim properly?
I swear I was aiming right!

This was your first time? That was not too bad. I go to the shooting range nearly every week. Also try to do Airsoft for real life action.

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

Don't you have to work your way down? The last thing you learn is the knife. No? Yes?

 

[AJUMP23]

Keep both eyes open. Grip, stance, breath.

You should get a rifle and shoot one. They are fun. Shotgun is the most fun in a field blowing stuff up with it.

 

[p_xavier]

Keep both eyes open. Grip, stance, breath.

You should get a rifle and shoot one. They are fun. Shotgun is the most fun in a field blowing stuff up with it.

Military type guns are the best but our commie government doesn't allow them anymore.

 

[Js562]

I own a couple firearms at home and I carry when I'm outside. Start with a smaller caliber like 9mm. Learn the basics of how to operate with safety in mind. Don't limp wrist the gun and have a strong grip. Weak wrists and stance are gonna have your shots off target. Plus trying to anticipate your shots will throw it off as well.

Besides that just drill and practice is the only way to get better. Just like everything else

 

[dave_d]

Don't take this wrong way, but a shooting range thread just brings old classic to mind.

EDIT: Also -- you did NOT suck. I think that's pretty good for a first time. Keep at it!

Wow, I wonder if the guy from polygon wears diapers because he's such a baby.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Learning how to shoot a pistol IRL is much more difficult than it seems in video games

Many people who are learning to shoot for the first time take a class but if you don't want to do that, you can learn from the many different channels on YouTube that can teach you how to shoot properly

As a beginner, you have no bad habits to unlearn so start out now with both eyes open. Yes, you want to learn to shoot keeping both eyes open. Start doing it now while you're new at it so you don't have to learn later

Beyond that it's just round count downrange and practicing with good technique and habits. Learn it right the first time so you don't need to learn it again a second or third time

 

[newtypepilot]

congrats OP, you are a true murican now!!!

 

[p_xavier]

Learning how to shoot a pistol IRL is much more difficult than it seems in video games

Many people who are learning to shoot for the first time take a class but if you don't want to do that, you can learn from the many different channels on YouTube that can teach you how to shoot properly

As a beginner, you have no bad habits to unlearn so start out now with both eyes open. Yes, you want to learn to shoot keeping both eyes open. Start doing it now while you're new at it so you don't have to learn later

Beyond that it's just round count downrange and practicing with good technique and habits. Learn it right the first time so you don't need to learn it again a second or third time

I've been shooting since I was 6. Why is that? I'm curious cause I only see one eye.

 

[jason10mm]

I've been shooting since I was 6. Why is that? I'm curious cause I only see one eye.

I can only shoot (well) with one eye open as well.

It's important to know which eye is your dominant eye (it may not be the same side as your dominate hand). You can figure this out by pointing at something medium/far away with both eyes open, using your doninate hand. Then hold your finger over whatever you are pointing at and close each eye in turn. The eye that can't see because the finger is covering it is your dominate eye.

For pistols this is relatively easy (once you recognize the issue) to use your right hand to hold the pistol but use your left eye to aim, for example. But for rifles/shotguns this can be a significant problem, some folks learn to shoot with their off hand because using the dominate eye to sight in the rifle is more important.

With red dot optics I think "both eyes open" shooting is more feasible, but with iron sights or scopes, it's wink time

 

[p_xavier]

I can only shoot (well) with one eye open as well.

It's important to know which eye is your dominant eye (it may not be the same side as your dominate hand). You can figure this out by pointing at something medium/far away with both eyes open, using your doninate hand. Then hold your finger over whatever you are pointing at and close each eye in turn. The eye that can't see because the finger is covering it is your dominate eye.

For pistols this is relatively easy (once you recognize the issue) to use your right hand to hold the pistol but use your left eye to aim, for example. But for rifles/shotguns this can be a significant problem, some folks learn to shoot with their off hand because using the dominate eye to sight in the rifle is more important.

With red dot optics I think "both eyes open" shooting is more feasible, but with iron sights or scopes, it's wink time

No literally I'm blind one eye. Sorry for the confusion. But your description makes sense.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I've been shooting since I was 6. Why is that? I'm curious cause I only see one eye.

 

[Musashipan]

I might as well ask the add on question. How accurate is shooting a real gun to shooting in a game like gun club?(It's a vr game. I can't hit anything unless I slow down, use my dominant eye and line up the sites on the pistol)

Never played VR fps, so I have no clue!

 

[Musashipan]

That's why The Predator uses a laser.

The Kriss Vector had laser sights. Not quite the same technology lol but it helped. I did better with it!

 

[Musashipan]

Tell me you wore earplugs?
If those arent enough wear earplugs and put ear protective muffs on top of those.

Yes, it is required to use the muffs. I think it was because it's a indoor range, and the place is sound proof, so crazy acoustics.

 

[jason10mm]

I might as well ask the add on question. How accurate is shooting a real gun to shooting in a game like gun club?(It's a vr game. I can't hit anything unless I slow down, use my dominant eye and line up the sites on the pistol)

I find VR shooting to be semi-helpful. Stuff like gun club can help with sight alignment and a little on trigger control, but the controller trigger is very different from most real triggers. Games like Ace VR with their dedicated pistol mold controllers are much better, but even they have hinge triggers instead of straight press triggers and the draw weight is different. Still, they can help with proper grip if you focus on that, but the lack of recoil can foster bad habits because you can learn to hold or shoot in weird ways. But I still aim and shoot in VR like I do in real life (squinting one eye closed, etc).

Ace VR helps a lot in learning specific stages. These games, being fairly immersive, can help with shooting anxiety. But they are easy to fall into bad habits with rapid shots and such, especially gun club.

Still fun though, and if you are diligent, practice your draw stroke, take measured shots, etc I think there is value. Think if it like a supplement to dry fire, not so much a replacement for actual range time. Then again, some folks can only train with airsoft type stuff and still compete at a high level with real weapons, so clearly simulation can mimic that very well.

 

[p_xavier]

That story still amazes me. Learning to shoot in a short time just to nonchalantly impress his wife.

 

[Musashipan]

You got ripped off big time with those prices.

In Texas its like $20 range fee and $15 per 50 rounds.

I payed 150 cads, around 108 use.
40 range fee plus each gun you need to pay a renting fee and all the ammunition.
Very expensive here

 

[Tajaz2426]

Face the target with feet shoulder length apart, turn to your right, push your left leg out. On your grip have a two hand grip with the off hand thumb up the side of grip.

Bring your weapons to target level aligning the front of rear side post. Extend your firing arm out to the the target with the off hand arm with a small bend at the elbow to support the weapon.

Breath and as you breath in hold the breath, listen for your heart and fire in between beats. Squeeze the trigger with a continuous smooth pull.

Important last step: always maintain your follow through. Don't not move feet and try for the weapon to come back at rest with your sight picture in tact.

Great job, brother. Looks like you had a blast.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

And I sucked hard! Damn it's loud!
All those years of FPS videogames made no difference at all. Lol

9mm
DEagle 44
357 revolver
Kris Vector 40.

Kris was the funniest
Revolver i didn't like
Desert Eagle was nice

Next time I'm planning to try a shotgun and SKS.
Any tips on how to aim properly?

It just takes practice, practice, practice

I might as well ask the add on question. How accurate is shooting a real gun to shooting in a game like gun club?(It's a vr game. I can't hit anything unless I slow down, use my dominant eye and line up the sites on the pistol)

If a person shoots enough they will get deadly accurate

Here is one of my groupings standing free hand with my .45 at 20 yards

 

[Musashipan]

Recoil anticipation is a bitch when you first start shooting. Being accurate with a handgun at ranges beyond, like, 10 meters is much more difficult than you might be led to believe watching movies or playing video games. And yeah, they are loud as fuck, even a dinky 9 mil, especially indoors. I remember I had tinnitus in my left ear for a good week or two after my first day of CPL training because I didn't have my ear plug fully inserted.

A couple of tips: ensure you have a solid grip where your non-dominant hand is providing most of your gripping pressure. Your shooting hand's thumb should be resting above like pictured.

Don't jerk the trigger. This will often cause you to subtly shift your aim as your muscles tighten. Rather apply a consistent amount of pressure as you smoothly squeeze it. You'll feel slow at first but over time, you'll become more efficient with the motion.

Also try to squeeze using the middle portion of your index finger, not near the finger tip or near the joint.

That was exactly what thy range instructors was trying to tell me lol, didn't quite got it. I was kinda nervous too. Now I understand why sometimes cops miss shots, there's a lot of science behind it until you can operate in autopilot. Good tips, I'll remember rhythm next time. Thank you

 

[Insane Metal]

Actual footage of Musashipan

 

[StreetsofBeige]

You got ripped off big time with those prices.

In Texas its like $20 range fee and $15 per 50 rounds.

I just skimmed various Vegas touristy shooting ranges near the strip. Looks like the same kind of prices as when I did it probably a decade or so ago.

The funny thing is the guy behind you helping you load the gun and ensure you dont go wacko shooting people (each shooter gets their own glassed off room to shoot anyway) makes you shoot even faster. A noob like me shooting, you dont really think about how fast it'll go. You just get amped up youre going to shoot a red dot M4 or M16 like COD. I used that gun first. I think it was a 30 round clip. I was taking my time trying to aim and enjoy it and the guy behing me is like.... you can shoot faster by holding down the trigger.

I know. I just wanted to take my time. And this guy is trying to rush me to finish so other people can shoot too.

If you've never done the Vegas thing, you get there and there's tons of groups of people like me an my buds from out of town wanted to shoot for the first time. So it's like an assembly line where they rush people in, get them to shoot fast, and then usher them out back to the main room done. Then the next group goes in.

 

[Musashipan]

Don't these two have like crazy recoil? It's obvious you will not be able to fire properly if you don't have experience and your body can't compensate for the recoil.

To be honest I was expecting way more recoil from the desert eagle, it was not that bad at all. I tried the .44 mag and not the .50AE, which probably would be harder.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

That was exactly what thy range instructors was trying to tell me lol, didn't quite got it. I was kinda nervous too. Now I understand why sometimes cops miss shots, there's a lot of science behind it until you can operate in autopilot. Good tips, I'll remember rhythm next time. Thank you

Never anticipate the shot, always let the bang kind of surprise you

I not only shoot all the time I also play with a system called Mantis that lets you practice your accuracy indoors with your actual gun

To be honest I was expecting way more recoil from the desert eagle, it was not that bad at all. I tried the .44 mag and not the .50AE, which probably would be harder.

The heavier the gun the less the recoil and the Deagle is a heavy ass gun

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Recoil anticipation is a bitch when you first start shooting. Being accurate with a handgun at ranges beyond, like, 10 meters is much more difficult than you might be led to believe watching movies or playing video games. And yeah, they are loud as fuck, even a dinky 9 mil, especially indoors. I remember I had tinnitus in my left ear for a good week or two after my first day of CPL training because I didn't have my ear plug fully inserted.

A couple of tips: ensure you have a solid grip where your non-dominant hand is providing most of your gripping pressure. Your shooting hand's thumb should be resting above like pictured.

Don't jerk the trigger. This will often cause you to subtly shift your aim as your muscles tighten. Rather apply a consistent amount of pressure as you smoothly squeeze it. You'll feel slow at first but over time, you'll become more efficient with the motion.

Also try to squeeze using the middle portion of your index finger, not near the finger tip or near the joint.

Interesting finger chart. As a non-shooter, I would had never thought about trigger finger positioning.

 

[Musashipan]

Couple of recs.

1, Get full wrap around eye pro and use plugs AND over ear muffs. Cut out as much sound and pressure waves against your face as possible. I'm guessing you are flinching a lot or over anticipating recoil.

2. Get a .22lr pistol and start with that. Focus on the front sight, the rear sight notch will align and the target should be blurry. Press the trigger with constant pressure, it should surprise you when it goes off. Hold the pistol with a firm grip, not a death choke (it ain't your dick).

3. You can try a red dot optic.

4. If the range allows it, slip some dummy rounds into your magazine or cylinder, even better if someone else does it so you don't know where, how many, or even IF there are dummy rounds. THen then you press the trigger and nothing happens, you will see if you are anticipating and the gun dips. Record yourself, lots of flaws can be revealed there.

5. Try a 1911 style pistol, 9mm, .45acp, whatever. That grip angle works magic for some folks.

I was flinching a lot at the beginning, got better at the end, as per the range instructor. I should've started with 22 pistol, but I went with 9mm right away and then .44m deagle. I don't think they allow bringing you own ammunition, unless you bring your own gun which I don't have any and here in Canada they are prohibited. There's not a lot of options of guns there. Thank you

 

[Musashipan]

This was your first time? That was not too bad. I go to the shooting range nearly every week. Also try to do Airsoft for real life action.

Yes it was my first time.
I'd like to go more often but it an expensive hobby!

 

[jason10mm]

I was flinching a lot at the beginning, got better at the end, as per the range instructor. I should've started with 22 pistol, but I went with 9mm right away and then .44m deagle. I don't think they allow bringing you own ammunition, unless you bring your own gun which I don't have any and here in Canada they are prohibited. There's not a lot of options of guns there. Thank you

Which 9mm? A glock? If it was, try for a full steel framed 9mm next time, like a Browning hi-power, 9mm 1911/2011, Beretta, or maybe a sig/s&w. I find glocks and other polymer frame pistols to be overly "flippy". Same for the Sig and others with a high bore axis but proper technique can mitigate all that. Still, a 9mm 1911 or BHP.....that's target shooting perfection in my book (with the HK P7 being the best, for the first 30 rounds before it becomes too hot to hold . The Desert Eagle has the ergonomics of a brick, fucking HATE those things.