The Outer Worlds 2 hits 18,251 all-time CCU peak on Steam

Negotiator101 said:
Is a games success determined by Steam numbers? It's on PS5 lest we forget, having said that I just want a good game to play, so hopefully it is.
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Steam gives a good indication. Cronos performed similarly on Steam charts, was multiplat and didn't do well commercially.

TOW2 is Microsoft's big holiday game. It's not some obscure lighthouse game. It's a sequel to a popular game. There is a massive audience for this type of RPG on Steam. The game also got top billing in Microsoft's showcases this year.

Whether the game is good or not, things aren't looking good for it.
 
Kacho said:
No. Right now it's looking like it will do worse than Avowed after months of heavy marketing. Being on Game Pass doesn't prevent people from buying games as we saw with Hollow Knight and Oblivion. What we're seeing here is a total rejection by users on Steam.
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Being on game pass doesn't prevent people from buying games, but it surely doesn't help. But that's incidental to my point, which is that Obsidian games don't have this massive draw of players. Never have, even when the games have been thought of excellent.

None of the previous games they made have had any sort of interest near the level of Hollow Knight or Oblivion, so expecting Outer Worlds 2 to have that level of appeal is silly. That doesn't make it a bad game (no more than any of the previous Obsidian games were bad), just not extremely popular.
 
Zathalus said:
Being on game pass doesn't prevent people from buying games, but it surely doesn't help. But that's incidental to my point, which is that Obsidian games don't have this massive draw of players. Never have, even when the games have been thought of excellent.

None of the previous games they made have had any sort of interest near the level of Hollow Knight or Oblivion, so expecting Outer Worlds 2 to have that level of appeal is silly. That doesn't make it a bad game (no more than any of the previous Obsidian games were bad), just not extremely popular.
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Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. The game still has the weekend ahead of it and it's peaking now. Let's see how it does over the coming days.
 
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Can't wait to see this crash and burn.

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It's early in the afternoon in the east coast and still morning in the west coast. And every games sale usually depend on the U.S.

So once late afternoon comes, its party time with over 50k ccp

And once weekend comes, it'll be OUT of THIS WORLD with over 100k ccp!!!!
 
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I think it'll peak at below 20K.

It would be pretty humiliating if it peaks lower than OW1 (which didn't even release on Steam until a year later).
 
BigBeauford said:
And yet somehow the top 30 or so STEAM all time CCU is littered if not the majority of games released in the last 3 years or less.
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lol op 30 and 3 years? thats not proving anything :messenger_tears_of_joy:
secondly you are not going see the numbers for Roblox, Fortnite , and Minecraft on steam. those are destroying everything.
 
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It's honestly sad to see how some people here seem to root for games to fail and studios to crash.

I'm not even a big fan of Obsidian, but come on boys, it seems like you don't appreciate games or gaming in general with this attitude
 
Gonzito said:
It's honestly sad to see how some people here seem to root for games to fail and studios to crash.

I'm not even a big fan of Obsidian, but come on boys, it seems like you don't appreciate games or gaming in general with this attitude
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I don't appreciate shitty games, no. And the sooner devs realize those stink the sooner we'll get more of the good stuff.

Obsidian went from making some of the best RPGs out there to making "7/10" kind of crap, and that's being generous in the case of some of them. So yeah ofc I'd be glad if the game fails and the studio goes to shit. Maybe then the actual talented people that still work there (if there's anyone left) might go develop something more worth of everyone's time.
 
Gonzito said:
It's honestly sad to see how some people here seem to root for games to fail and studios to crash.

I'm not even a big fan of Obsidian, but come on boys, it seems like you don't appreciate games or gaming in general with this attitude
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Seems to be happening with almost every game these days, really odd for a supposed enthusiast forum.
 
TintoConCasera said:
I don't appreciate shitty games, no. And the sooner devs realize those stink the sooner we'll get more of the good stuff.

Obsidian went from making some of the best RPGs out there to making "7/10" kind of crap, and that's being generous in the case of some of them. So yeah ofc I'd be glad if the game fails and the studio goes to shit. Maybe then the actual talented people that still work there (if there's anyone left) might go develop something more worth of everyone's time.
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You haven't played the game so your opinion is irrelevant.
 
Gonzito said:
It's honestly sad to see how some people here seem to root for games to fail and studios to crash.

I'm not even a big fan of Obsidian, but come on boys, it seems like you don't appreciate games or gaming in general with this attitude
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That's up to Obsidian to make a good product. If they don't make a good game, gamers will not buy said game. Nothing to do with "rooting" for games to fail.
 
TintoConCasera said:
I don't appreciate shitty games, no. And the sooner devs realize those stink the sooner we'll get more of the good stuff.

Obsidian went from making some of the best RPGs out there to making "7/10" kind of crap, and that's being generous in the case of some of them. So yeah ofc I'd be glad if the game fails and the studio goes to shit. Maybe then the actual talented people that still work there (if there's anyone left) might go develop something more worth of everyone's time.
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From what I have been reading and seeing, this is not a shitty game, in fact it looks very good and possibly a very competent game. I have played a couple of hours now and I think its a big improvement over the first one so far.

Speaking like that about games that you haven't played it's a mistake papito. To judge the game as if it's shit without playing it its not fair.
 
Negotiator101 said:
You haven't played the game so your opinion is irrelevant.
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No need to when the first game is some of the worst RPGs I've ever played.

The Mad Draklor said:
That's up to Obsidian to make a good product. If they don't make a good game, gamers will not buy said game. Nothing to do with "rooting" for games to fail.
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Exactly. You don't see those levels of conformism nor defending bad products in any other sectors. Movies, books, music, if they suck they fail and that's it. Meanwhile with videogames you have people defending the most average stuff because of reasons I'm not able to grasp.

Gonzito said:
From what I have been reading and seeing, this is not a shitty game, in fact it looks very good and possibly a very competent game. I have played a couple of hours now and I think its a big improvement over the first one so far.

Speaking like that about games that you haven't played it's a mistake papito. To judge the game as if it's shit without playing it its not fair.
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That's fair but still, I doubt it's good. I've seen the gameplay, and I know Obsidian's writting and how bad it can be. Sorry man but I doubt this one's "so much better" than the one that came before. But hey, hope I'm wrong and the fans enjoy it. I'm just sad to see Obsidian be what it has become: a factory of average games focusing on feeding Gamepass instead of making quality titles.
 
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TintoConCasera said:
No need to when the first game is some of the worst RPGs I've ever played.


Exactly. You don't see those levels of conformism nor defending bad products in any other sectors. Movies, books, music, if they suck they fail and that's it. Meanwhile with videogames you have people defending the most average stuff because of reasons I'm not able to grasp.
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At least give it a go, I didn't like the first one either but from what I've played so far this is better in every way possible. It's got strong reviews and is getting positive feedback on here as well.
 
Negotiator101 said:
At least give it a go, I didn't like the first one either but from what I've played so far this is better in every way possible. It's got strong reviews and is getting positive feedback on here as well.
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Maybe when it's 10 bucks or so, but I'd need to be in dire need of something to play for that to happen lol.

If the game fails it might be for the best. Just like Avowed this seems like an extremely average RPG to me, so if it fails it might be the waking call for MS to finally put less pressure and more money into the studio and let them cook something that's worth the asking price.

pd: sorry if any post has sounded a bit aggressive. As an ESL I find a hard time trying to express what I want to say without "just saying it", if that makes sense. :goog_relieved:
 
Well, it is a message board for discussing games, not just a place where the only option is to jerk off developers. Some of us have been playing video games since an Atari, and to say we are jaded with the current state of things is an understatement. It's not like I can complain to my wife about how shitty and woke modern gaming is.
 
Gonzito said:
Yes it does, we have this whole thread here in GAF as proof. Some people just want the game to fail, period.
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Boo hoo, poor Obsidian... might as well triple down on the persecution complex because surely, that's a convincing selling point.

TintoConCasera said:
Exactly. You don't see those levels of conformism nor defending bad products in any other sectors. Movies, books, music, if they suck they fail and that's it. Meanwhile with videogames you have people defending the most average stuff because of reasons I'm not able to grasp.
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I'll have to disagree with a bit here because it does happen in other sectors like the Disney Star Wars trilogy (particularly TLJ and ROS).

But we can definitely have a good read on the quality of the product by how the fans or "fans" react to criticism. There's a stark difference between "You know what? You do you. I understand why it's not for you" and staunchly running defense because the bad, bad consumers aren't giving the product a "fair shake".
 
TintoConCasera said:
I don't appreciate shitty games, no. And the sooner devs realize those stink the sooner we'll get more of the good stuff.

Obsidian went from making some of the best RPGs out there to making "7/10" kind of crap,
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TintoConCasera said:
and that's being generous in the case of some of them. So yeah ofc I'd be glad if the game fails and the studio goes to shit. Maybe then the actual talented people that still work there (if there's anyone left) might go develop something more worth of everyone's time.
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JFC, go touch grass or something
 
Buggy Loop said:
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And you hold the truth while peoples in OT thread are having a ton of fun. Its fucking plain to say Tinto
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Dude, click on the link, it redirects to a thread in GAF were your fellow enthusiasts declare that review scores are worth a damn.

Buggy Loop said:
Just say you never want to buy Obsidian game again because of that art dude and be done with it. Don't try to spin it or invalidate that the gameplay is very much appreciated.
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Sure I have a problem with that studio but imo it's not fair to declare all my criticism towards their games as invalid because of that.

Hope you enjoy the game man. But all this attitude about "poor developers" or the "sad studio closures" doesn't make any sense to me. I, as a consumer, have all the right in the world to demand quality on exchange for my money. If a studio closes, it means that either their games fucking sucked or they were so grabbed by the neck by the publisher that they had no alternative but to release a half-baked turd. It's not the consumer fault, it never is.

Buggy Loop said:
Gonzito "not fair how some peoples here..."
The Mad Draklor "Nothing to do with rooting for games to fail"

TintoConCasera :
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Like trying to explain something to a little child lol.
 
You have to be a special kind of person to want this studio to close











Peoples forget there's hundreds of peoples working there. I see nerds wanting to make RPGs and good games as best as they can.

Some of you need to go touch grass outside, you're terminally online.
 
Buggy Loop Buggy Loop studios don't make games. The people working at those studios make them, and at least 50 of the 70 developers from New Vegas have already left the company and, while some "big heads" still remain there, it's clear that those aren't enough at least judging by the quality of their latest games.

It's not about people wanting to see the world burn. It's about videogame enjoyers wanting to see more quality being delivered to them and imo, if that takes a few studio closures for the big publishers to finally take notice and do something about it, then so be it. And no, a studio closing isn't the end of the world, talented people should have no trouble finding a better job.
 
TintoConCasera said:
Dude, click on the link, it redirects to a thread in GAF were your fellow enthusiasts declare that review scores are worth a damn.
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And peoples in OT are having fun, what part of that are you not understanding? Review score be damned, you have peoples like MidGenRefresh MidGenRefresh calling for Obsidian to have a go with Fallout again.

TintoConCasera said:
Sure I have a problem with that studio but imo it's not fair to declare all my criticism towards their games as invalid because of that.
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Oh yea, you totally showcase restraints in your opinion of that studio, totally /s

TintoConCasera said:
Hope you enjoy the game man. But all this attitude about "poor developers" or the "sad studio closures" doesn't make any sense to me. I, as a consumer, have all the right in the world to demand quality on exchange for my money. If a studio closes, it means that either their games fucking sucked or they were so grabbed by the neck by the publisher that they had no alternative but to release a half-baked turd. It's not the consumer fault, it never is.
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You even tried to see if the game might be fun? No not really.

You threw Gonzito's opinion in the bin. Imagine that

Fucking papi Gonzito Gonzito

TintoConCasera said:
Like trying to explain something to a little child lol.
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You're not fooling anyone
 
Buggy Loop said:
You threw Gonzito's opinion in the bin. Imagine that

Fucking papi Gonzito Gonzito
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I never did that. I respect his opinion a lot, way more than yours.

I've given you lots of chances but I'm putting you on ignore, so long dude. Next time you argue with someone try offering some actual arguments instead of trying to antagonize them by throwing other's peoples names into the matter.
 
TintoConCasera said:
Buggy Loop Buggy Loop studios don't make games. The people working at those studios make them, and at least 50 of the 70 developers from New Vegas have already left the company and, while some "big heads" still remain there, it's clear that those aren't enough at least judging by the quality of their latest games.
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The 3 founders of Troika (Fallout 1 & 2) Tim Cain, Leonard Boyarsky are now at Obsidian, and Jason Anderson is at inXile.

The key peoples of New vegas, Josh Sawyer (director, lead designer, system designer), Scott Everts (world building lead), Charlie Staples (Area lead design lead, lead level designer) are still at Obsidian, and likely of course many other in the lower hierarchy. There last two guys especially who managed to make a desert interesting.

TintoConCasera said:
It's not about people wanting to see the world burn. It's about videogame enjoyers wanting to see more quality being delivered to them and imo, if that takes a few studio closures for the big publishers to finally take notice and do something about it, then so be it. And no, a studio closing isn't the end of the world, talented people should have no trouble finding a better job.
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You aren't even giving them a chance, that's my problem with it. Peoples in OT gave it a whirl and its super positive feedback. They're all wrong, TintoConCasera TintoConCasera is right without even trying. Are you for real?

TintoConCasera said:
I never did that. I respect his opinion a lot, way more than yours.
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"I doubt its good" as he replies to Gonzito.

TintoConCasera said:
I've given you lots of chances but I'm putting you on ignore, so long dude. Next time you argue with someone try offering some actual arguments instead of trying to antagonize them by throwing other's peoples names into the matter.
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Thank god, please do little man

The most fucking annoying spanish person I've met ever in life. Tienes pudrición cerebral
 
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Game seems far too expensive for me.

I'm trying to find a steam key and no where seems to have any. I'll just wait a few months.
 
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