Marvel Games says it’ll continue to work with Spider-Man and Wolverine studio Insomniac ‘for many years to come’

Sunset Overdrive died for this.
Compared to XCOM or Deus Ex dying for other Marvel shit, i'll take this any day.

Marvel games putting their hands on Firaxis and Crystal Dynamics was some of the worst news this gen, if this means the chances of a new XCOM or Deus Ex are higher and they will just focus on Insomniac, it's all good, sacrifices have to be made sometimes
 
It's nowhere near close, just look at the steam reviews or any other place. And TOW2 is miles better in terms of writing and barely has any "modern audience" stuff compared to SM2.
I don't agree. Any discussion of that game brings up the gay homecoming, stunning and brave MJ, the evil white man stealing le jazz objects from the COMMUNITY, Felicia being a lesbian, the disabled graffiti artist scene, "latinx" spanish, etc.

Not to mention that all the diversity is written to be so boring and dull, literally one of the lamest set of characters I've ever seen in a game.

What a mess.
 
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Good news for the Marvel fans. Kinda shit for everyone else.
 
Good, they haven't missed yet. Excited for Wolverine, looks brutal af, but more excited for Spider-Man 3, hopefully we finally see Green Goblin and hopefully the return of Doc Ock.

So let me get this:
-Excellent Critical Reception
-Excellent Sales Performance
-Great Overall User Reception
-PS5 System Seller

NeoGAF Member:
-RIP Insomniac

I mean some of you try way too hard to be edgy.

It's GAF. 30% of GAF in every thread try to be edgy on every topic.

Imagine trying to picture a good side effect of being the new Marvel Games bitch.

But go ahead, forget the Insomniac past games that will never see the light of day anymore.

Dude.........They released a Ratchet and Clank game in the 2nd year the PS5 was released! What are you talking about?

Gtfoh with that Spider-man 2 pandering bullcrap. No amount of number you spout will make that social shit any better.

Pandering. Aren't you the Panda Bear in this thread lying as if everyone hated Spiderman 2? It was in the top 20 most sold games in America up until THIS SUMMER!!!!! It came out in 2023. Understand that you are the minority.
 
Well, Wolverine 1, 2 & 3. Spider-Man 3, Venom, X-men: Jean Grey (we know it's coming) so yeah years indeed.
 
Yall should have bought Resistance 3. You didn't!



Sunset Overdrive died when it only sold 2 million copies and only made $50 million dollars.....after costing $43 Million to make. Insomniac only made $500 in profit for the game. Yes that's right......500 Hundred dollars!
Since Microsoft is third party now, they should let Sony remaster it.
 
Why is anyone surprised? Before Marvel they were doing Ratchet games since 2002 and tried Resistance that flopped (had 3 games) and Sunset Overdrive which massively flopped. By that point they were NOT in a good place financially.
Meanwhile after than Spider-Man, Miles and SM2 were massive hits. I'm sure Wolverine will sell quite a lot next year, plus don't they hav like SM3 and 4 already in the pipeline and an X-Men game?

Let's just put it line this, the 3 Spider-Man games outsold everything else this studio has ever done. This is a no brainer.
 
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In the previous leaks, wasn't it shown that Insomniac makes crap from Marvel games, compared to others? Like Marvel takes more than other licensed games?
They don't make crap but Marvel takes a lot of money from them yes. The problem is it's hard to calculate how much Sony benefits from Spiderman because the game is 100% a system seller so you can't just look at the amount of money made from the game you have to calculate how many people are buying the console just cause they want to play Spiderman and eventually Wolverine. Marvel might not be as big as it once was during the Infinity Saga but it's still huge. Especially if you deliver a quality Marvel product people will flock to it.
 
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I love those who claim this means they won't make any other games... There's literally a R&C Rift Apart sequel slated for 2029. What the hell are you all talking about?
 
And water is wet.
Remember those leaks regarding the Disney Insomniac royalties, licensing costs ? Disney is making a fortune, of course they are happy.
 
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Marvel doesn't pass up any chance to make money, and as long as there are still people who aren't tired of that stuff, Sony will gladly keep producing it.
 
Indeed, Peter Parker is the soul of the franchise... Not his chocolate version.

And here we go with this CRAP again. As if Miles Morales' two movies combined haven't made a Billion Dollars about him. ::rolleyes::


Why is anyone surprised? Before Marvel they were doing Ratchet games since 2002 and tried Resistance that flopped (had 3 games) and Sunset Overdrive which massively flopped. By that point they were NOT in a good place financially.
Meanwhile after than Spider-Man, Miles and SM2 were massive hits. I'm sure Wolverine will sell quite a lot next year, plus don't they hav like SM3 and 4 already in the pipeline and an X-Men game?

Let's just put it line this, the 3 Spoder-Man games outsold everything else this studio has ever done. This is a no brainer.

Hold on play boy. The Resistance IP was NOT a flop. Only the 3rd game was.

And water is wet.
Remember those leaks regarding the Disney Insomniac royalties, licensing costs ? Disney is making a fortune, of course they are happy.

And did you see how much money Sony and Insomniac made after royalties and licensing costs?
 
Sunset Overdrive died for this.
Sunset Overdrive almost killed the studio.

But go ahead, forget the Insomniac past games that will never see the light of day anymore.
Yeah, Ratchet & Clank 38 and Resistance Against Selling Copies. Real loss to the zeitgeist.

As for the anti-woke brigade (to which I'm not totally opposed), serious question: Do you think Insomniac would be less woke than it is now without Marvel?? Really?

All you have to recall is that Sam Maggs was a lead writer on Rift Apart. Short of a political shift that uproots the fundamentals of California, you are never going to get bAseD!! Insomniac again. If you ever had it.

Had Sunset Overdrive come out today half of the gaming internet would've gone all lizard brain just by the aesthetics.
 
Hold on play boy. The Resistance IP was NOT a flop. Only the 3rd game was.
As far as i know, the first game couldn't get to 4M, the second game couldn't get to 3M and the third game couldn't get to 2M sold. All this as PS3 consoles were increasing in userbase.
This is not healthy for an IP.

If Ghost of Yotei is being teared down like hell in here for selling "the same" as its predecessor, i would expect the same treatment to happen to every other IP. A game that keeps going down in sales since its first entry is not okay. It's not even stable.
 
As far as i know, the first game couldn't get to 4M, the second game couldn't get to 3M and the third game couldn't get to 2M sold. All this as PS3 consoles were increasing in userbase.
This is not healthy for an IP.

If Ghost of Yotei is being teared down like hell in here for selling "the same" as its predecessor, i would expect the same treatment to happen to every other IP. A game that keeps going down in sales since its first entry is not okay. It's not even stable.

Okay.....but the first game sold 3.9 million. That's basically 4 million :messenger_tears_of_joy: . The 2nd game did 2.8 million. Again......basically 3 million.. It was the fact that the 3rd game only made like $75 million in revenue that killed the IP.

Resistance 1 made about $225 million and Resistance 2 made about $150 million. Falling to $75 million for the 3rd game was a nightmare. With GoY, it's making around the same amount of money as GoT, while costing about the same so no issue there.
 
Since Microsoft is third party now, they should let Sony remaster it.
There is nothing stopping Sony from remastering Sunset Overdrive, MS only holds the publishing rights to Sunset Overdrive not to Sunset Overdrive Remastered/Remix/Director's Cut, etc.
Just adding a new gun/skin and a suffix to the title is enough to overcome any legal issues.
 
Okay.....but the first game sold 3.9 million. That's basically 4 million :messenger_tears_of_joy: . The 2nd game did 2.8 million. Again......basically 3 million.. It was the fact that the 3rd game only made like $75 million in revenue that killed the IP.

Resistance 1 made about $225 million and Resistance 2 made about $150 million. Falling to $75 million for the 3rd game was a nightmare. With GoY, it's making around the same amount of money as GoT, while costing about the same so no issue there.
That's already a huge decline for the 2nd entry though.
 
So let me get this:
-Excellent Critical Reception
-Excellent Sales Performance
-Great Overall User Reception
-PS5 System Seller

NeoGAF Member:
-RIP Insomniac

I mean some of you try way too hard to be edgy.

Thought I was going to trigger the minorities on gaf, but damn bro, you did a fantastic job. Not being sarcastic here, your words speak the truth.
 
I don't really have a problem unless the design for these superhero games gets too stagnant.

My main thing is I hope Insomniac expands to do more than just these kind of games, or even beyond just doing more Ratchet & Clank.
 
Can they swap to DC, lol?

I've had enough Spider-Jank and plus I don't think Peter is the Main Character anymore, so I don't really care about Marvel at all lately.

Marvel sucks.

Maybe the Wolverine game will be better, we'll see.
 
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Super-hero became a fad because Disney and WB kept pushing and pushing slop every week and people moved on, 6 years from now no one will care about any Marvel character, even worse if Wokeverine turns out to be as bad or worse than SM2
 
Thought I was going to trigger the minorities on gaf, but damn bro, you did a fantastic job. Not being sarcastic here, your words speak the truth.
It's just way too easy!

Though on a serious note, isn't it downright crazy how so many people are completely immune to objective facts and metrics?

Nothing that I mentioned was even subjective, and yet simple objective metrics riled up so many people because sadly they want to live in their own alternative (delusional) reality and to them the actual truth gets in the way of that forced delusion.
 
Are we all just pretending like their entire production roadmap until 2035 DIDN'T leak here or what?
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The writing in MS2 is trash and it's one of the wokest games released in the past few years. And ppl have the audacity to say this thing is good and ToW2 is bad and made for "modern audiences" because bad haircuts.
Because like other Sony first party, Insomniac actually knows how to make good games.
It's nowhere near close, just look at the steam reviews or any other place. And TOW2 is miles better in terms of writing and barely has any "modern audience" stuff compared to SM2.
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Writing? Obsidian games have terrible writing since Chris Avellone left. Thats why PoE 2 bombed.
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Keep in mind that majority of Insomniac's audience is in Playstation and these games released years after everyone already bought. Meanwhile most of Obsidian's audience is in PC and TOW2 released day 1 in Steam.

Insomniac beat Obsidian in its own home turf.
 
Venom is still coming right?

What's their plans for a new Rachet & Clank?

Or something entirely original?

I really wanna see Insomniac do something brand new again one day.
Venom wasn't a part of the game data either, which would suggest it doesn't exist bc they managed to get assets from much later on that timeline. A whole bunch of Spidey stuff got cancelled very early, before this leak.

Do you see Ratchet and Clank on there after Rift Apart?

Do you see the NEW IP listed twice?

Looks like we'll be waiting five more years for that unless Disney comes knocking for some Star Wars.
 
Compared to XCOM or Deus Ex dying for other Marvel shit, i'll take this any day.

Marvel games putting their hands on Firaxis and Crystal Dynamics was some of the worst news this gen, if this means the chances of a new XCOM or Deus Ex are higher and they will just focus on Insomniac, it's all good, sacrifices have to be made sometimes
XCOM 3 was canceled because that absolute awful card strategy game, let that sink in
 
Because like other Sony first party, Insomniac actually knows how to make good games.

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Writing? Obsidian games have terrible writing since Chris Avellone left. Thats why PoE 2 bombed.
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Keep in mind that majority of Insomniac's audience is in Playstation and these games released years after everyone already bought. Meanwhile most of Obsidian's audience is in PC and TOW2 released day 1 in Steam.

Insomniac beat Obsidian in its own home turf.
So spiderman 2, huge IP and mainstream game, had less than 10k more players at its peak compared to a way smaller IP/game that wasn't exclusive to 1 single platform and that was also given "for free" on a subscription service

And if popularity was a synonym of quality then Madden or COD wouldn't sell as much as they do.
 
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So spiderman 2, huge IP and mainstream game, had only 10k more players at its peak compared to a way smaller IP/game that wasn't exclusive to 1 single platform and that was also given "for free" on a subscription service
A game from a studio whose audience is in Playstation vs a game from a studio whose audience is in Steam. No PC gamers who cared about old Obsidian is paying 30 $ in Game Pass to play it. You are still ignoring the part where The Outer Worlds 2 was day one on Steam and Sony's first party released after years.
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The truth is Obsidian can't write a good story since Chris Avellone left. PoE II still had a lot of goodwill left from the first game. Since then it has been a downward spiral.
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And if popularity was a synonym of quality then Madden or COD wouldn't sell as much as they do.
I won't call anything modern Obsidian does as "quality".
 
So let me get this:
-Excellent Critical Reception
-Excellent Sales Performance
-Great Overall User Reception
-PS5 System Seller

NeoGAF Member:
-RIP Insomniac

I mean some of you try way too hard to be edgy.

General GAF have a hate boner for Insomniac.

Spider-Man 2 was an absolutely phenomenal game.

And before I played it, GAF gave me the impression that Spider-Man 2 was a bad game.
 
A game from a studio whose audience is in Playstation vs a game from a studio whose audience is in Steam. No PC gamers who cared about old Obsidian is paying 30 $ in Game Pass to play it. You are still ignoring the part where The Outer Worlds 2 was day one on Steam and Sony's first party released after years.
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The truth is Obsidian can't write a good story since Chris Avellone left. PoE II still had a lot of goodwill left from the first game. Since then it has been a downward spiral.
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I won't call anything modern Obsidian does as "quality".

bro, just stop. You're comparing niche rpgs with spiderman. It's not just playstation audience, Spiderman is one of the biggest IPs ever, globally. It makes no sense to compare them in terms of popularity. And even then, the difference in terms of players is small. Go touch some grass, this is not the W you think it is.
 
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Its crazy how triggered people get when Insomniac is mentioned on GAF. People hate that Insomniac is Playstation's best studio right now. Im done going back and forth with people over Spider-man. So many disengenous takes and trolling because of the perceived involvement of SBI. First it started with the game being too short, then it was woke to now its boring and garbage, lol. Sony choosing Insomniac to make a Marvel game was one of the best decisions they made recently. They tightened their relationship with Marvel/Disney, and now have the access to the best roster of characters in the superhero genre, which is the X-Men.

Great time to be a gamer if you're a Marvel fan. The only reason why you wouldnt enjoy this partnership is if you're an Xbox only gamer, Nintendo only gamer or hardcore DC fan. Thank god they arent naive or gullible enough to allow a loud minority to gaslight them into going back to making games that barely sold over 4M. Yall let Rachet and Clank Rift Apart go by like a fart in the wind. People spent more time trying to delegitimize it as a next gen game than actually speaking about how much they enjoyed it. Im glad we'll get another one, but I know its going to be crickets from the people that want it so bad.
 
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