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the map of DS1 has more metroidvania elements than MP4 and thats is a sad thing to say it out loud.We can certainly agree on this, at least. The map design in DS1 is incredible.
the map of DS1 has more metroidvania elements than MP4 and thats is a sad thing to say it out loud.We can certainly agree on this, at least. The map design in DS1 is incredible.
Yep. And his role was different on the two titles it seems.Strange. Tropical Freeze is amazing, but I guess that does not necessarily translate onto different genres.
Is amazing how easy some of you get triggered about an opinion. Especially when its something positive about Nintendo… i didn't reply on any of the users reviews here or got mad. For me as a fan of the Prime series this game is amazing
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I wonder who could make a Metroid game justice these days.but I don't think this guy is the visionary the franchise needs to make it happen.
If you have to remove stuff from a game to make it better... Yeah, that's not a great sign.Replaying now, i know the story soi switched voices off…. And… i am actually loving everything now - the annoying breakup voices dont disturb the GREAT music (best in a prime almost? Too bad some areas miss it) and atmosphere. It feels very much more like Prime 1/2 now - the dialogue is just a small optional subtitle that is quite unobtrusive
… if this keeps up removing voice might add a point to the score for me. In face voices feels weird in metroid even more than npc strangely enough
I was replying to a meme thatYou always do this, always, start calling people trolls and "fake fans", antagonizing in other threads (I can dig the posts if you like) when trying to play it "impartial", get called out on your bullshit and then going into the usual "why so mad/triggered ? I didn't say anything !" mode.
It's gaslighting at its finest and the reason why I'll keep saying that nothing you say has any weight nor meaning in here and that you're not exactly bright.
the ppl from Returnal and Saros would make an amazing Metroid game imo....I wonder who could make a Metroid game justice these days.
Yes the game would have been better with less npc:s for sure. Still i really like the game anyway. Better than prime 3 and close to 2, not close to 1 thoughI wonder who could make a Metroid game justice these days.
I legit would like to see how the Dark Souls/Bloodborne/Elden Ring director would tackle it. I'm ready for a darker, much more creepy looking Metroid, just how i imagined it to be back when i was playing Super Metroid.
If you have to remove stuff from a game to make it better... Yeah, that's not a great sign.
If you really think about it, the NPCs added nothing positive to the game, no matter what side of the camp you are. It's funny how half of players don't like the NPCs and the other half simply aren't bothered by them. I haven't seen anyone actually liking them. As in they add something positive to the game that would make it worse if they weren't there. Even the people who like the game, like it despite of the NPCs, not because of them.
It's as if they are there only because a modern game is obligated to have a narrative with multiple characters and voice acting.
Honestly? Team cherry lol.I wonder who could make a Metroid game justice these days.
I legit would like to see how the Dark Souls/Bloodborne/Elden Ring director would tackle it. I'm ready for a darker, much more creepy looking Metroid, just how i imagined it to be back when i was playing Super Metroid.
If you have to remove stuff from a game to make it better... Yeah, that's not a great sign.
If you really think about it, the NPCs added nothing positive to the game, no matter what side of the camp you are. It's funny how half of players don't like the NPCs and the other half simply aren't bothered by them. I haven't seen anyone actually liking them. As in they add something positive to the game that would make it worse if they weren't there. Even the people who like the game, like it despite of the NPCs, not because of them.
It's as if they are there only because a modern game is obligated to have a narrative with multiple characters and voice acting.
Survival Horror Metroid game is still the dream. But we just aren't getting that with Samus as the Protagonist. Not with the lore dumps Dread brought with it.I legit would like to see how the Dark Souls/Bloodborne/Elden Ring director would tackle it. I'm ready for a darker, much more creepy looking Metroid, just how i imagined it to be back when i was playing Super Metroid.
Can't wait to play a Metroid game where a random flying bug can hit you for 2 energy tanks when you only have one.Honestly? Team cherry lol.![]()
Stop. My penis can only get so erect.Can't wait to play a Metroid game where a random flying bug can hit you for 2 energy tanks when you only have one.
its the best selling single platform game in Spain.. I think thats all that needs to be said.Some say the marketing that Nintendo did or did not do for the game, have contributed to the sales somewhat stalling for now for this game..
Yeah I feel exactly this.I want to want this so badly, but I don't trust them not to fuck it up in some way at this point. Given the trajectory of the series, I can see them being like, "You know the problem we need to fix with Super Metroid? Players could go off the beaten track occasionally and do things out of order. Let's fix that."
I increasingly think that even Nintendo doesn't understand what made Super Metroid tick. Like maybe all the things people love about it were less intentional, and more just weird flukes.
Finally someone who understands we need Other M 2.Yeah I feel exactly this.
Prime, despite being a sub series has completely taken control over the legacy of Super Metroid, unfortunately.
I'm talking about the atmosphere, the mood, the horror feeling of Super.
Most of Metroid games nowadays have lessened that horror feel to a degree that is acceptable for 12 years old to play.
The imagery of Super Metroid translated in 3D should be weird, slimy, even gross sometimes.
I mean look at that :
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I mean you probably know the rest.
Fusion and Prime came out the same day. Fusion retains gore designs.
And it's exactly after that, starting with Zero Mission, that the designs were made less gory, more streamlined for a wider and younger audience.
Just look at the Kraid lair entrance in Zero Mission :
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Even the NES one was more menacing :
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Prime series kept the isolation, but shifted from a horror feeling to an eerie feeling.
Heck, we're talking about beautiful vistas in Metroid now... can't say that Super was ever about that.
Just compare Fury Green from Prime 4, were everything is beautiful and almost peaceful, to Upper brinstar with its threatening brambles and weird hostile vegetation everywhere.
Volt Forge is actually what some Metroid environment should tend towards, but again, it's devoid of any horror/gore and way too streamlined for the target audience.
I really hope Nintendo will not pursue with Retro Studios (or Mercury Steam, they're way worse on art design) for the next 3D Metroid.
Prime has run its course, it's time for a new perspective with a new developer.
Yeah I feel exactly this.
Prime, despite being a sub series has completely taken control over the legacy of Super Metroid, unfortunately.
I'm talking about the atmosphere, the mood, the horror feeling of Super.
Most of Metroid games nowadays have lessened that horror feel to a degree that is acceptable for 12 years old to play.
The imagery of Super Metroid translated in 3D should be weird, slimy, even gross sometimes.
I mean look at that :
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I mean you probably know the rest.
Fusion and Prime came out the same day. Fusion retains gore designs.
And it's exactly after that, starting with Zero Mission, that the designs were made less gory, more streamlined for a wider and younger audience.
Just look at the Kraid lair entrance in Zero Mission :
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Even the NES one was more menacing :
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Prime series kept the isolation, but shifted from a horror feeling to an eerie feeling.
Heck, we're talking about beautiful vistas in Metroid now... can't say that Super was ever about that.
Just compare Fury Green from Prime 4, were everything is beautiful and almost peaceful, to Upper brinstar with its threatening brambles and weird hostile vegetation everywhere.
Volt Forge is actually what some Metroid environment should tend towards, but again, it's devoid of any horror/gore and way too streamlined for the target audience.
I really hope Nintendo will not pursue with Retro Studios (or Mercury Steam, they're way worse on art design) for the next 3D Metroid.
Prime has run its course, it's time for a new perspective with a new developer.
I'm in the UK I brought Dread physical as it came in an offer with the Switch OLED. I bought Prime 4 digitally on my Switch 2.Rumors suggest that UK sales of Metroid Prime 4 in physical format were slightly less than 15% of what Metroid Dread sold.
I bought it last Saturday
That's too bad. Another 30fps console game with weird ass head Bob you can't turn off even on PC.Alien Isolation 2 is on its way
Talking of missing music, I bought the Samus amiibo and the Viola music really changes the feel of the desert. And after you've completed the game I understand you get the original MP menu theme and the new MP4 menu theme, both bangers. The amiibo is gorgeous but I probably feel fairly strongly they should have left at least the Viola track in base game.Having competed the game and liking it bar the shitty npc talk and some other nitpicks (8/10 etc)
I got the urge to replay and 100% it - that is very unusual for me
Replaying now, i know the story soi switched voices off…. And… i am actually loving everything now - the annoying breakup voices dont disturb the GREAT music (best in a prime almost? Too bad some areas miss it) and atmosphere. It feels very much more like Prime 1/2 now - the dialogue is just a small optional subtitle that is quite unobtrusive
… if this keeps up removing voice might add a point to the score for me. In face voices feels weird in metroid even more than npc strangely enough
Yeah, the tone went from horror /mystery, to just mystery, and now Prime 4 is lighthearted and goofy.Vibes
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This should radicalize Nintendo fans
Good post.Yeah I feel exactly this.
Prime, despite being a sub series has completely taken control over the legacy of Super Metroid, unfortunately.
I'm talking about the atmosphere, the mood, the horror feeling of Super.
Most of Metroid games nowadays have lessened that horror feel to a degree that is acceptable for 12 years old to play.
The imagery of Super Metroid translated in 3D should be weird, slimy, even gross sometimes.
I mean look at that :
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I mean you probably know the rest.
Fusion and Prime came out the same day. Fusion retains gore designs.
And it's exactly after that, starting with Zero Mission, that the designs were made less gory, more streamlined for a wider and younger audience.
Just look at the Kraid lair entrance in Zero Mission :
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Even the NES one was more menacing :
![]()
Prime series kept the isolation, but shifted from a horror feeling to an eerie feeling.
Heck, we're talking about beautiful vistas in Metroid now... can't say that Super was ever about that.
Just compare Fury Green from Prime 4, were everything is beautiful and almost peaceful, to Upper brinstar with its threatening brambles and weird hostile vegetation everywhere.
Volt Forge is actually what some Metroid environment should tend towards, but again, it's devoid of any horror/gore and way too streamlined for the target audience.
I really hope Nintendo will not pursue with Retro Studios (or Mercury Steam, they're way worse on art design) for the next 3D Metroid.
Prime has run its course, it's time for a new perspective with a new developer.
I've been advocating for a From Software Metroid game for a loooong time.Good post.
This is what i was thinking when i talked about From Software making a Metroid game. Imagine the art design team from those games making a 3D Metroid. They are also very good with level design, if they make something more similar to DS1.
The only issue i would have with a game made by them is the lack of music. I don't want the whole thing to be muted with only the occasional choir boss theme.
At the airport so I can't watch. Are they back pedaling their review? Lmao.
What even is "game journalist" or "game critique"? Fucking jokeosphere.
Shit that's even more stupid. They don't get it at all.No, they effectively say that people who scored the game low don't like the fact that the game isn't changed much from MP1. Which is totally missing the actual critiques of the game, namely that it gets rid of a lot of what MP1 did right, and adopts a bunch of nonsense from modern games that was never present in MP1.
Amazing post. I agree so much. It needs to have that slimey/drooling aesthetic of Alien 1 and the levels should have a bigger amount of dread in them. I want to feel what the characters did when they explored the speace jockey ship, instead of just looking at beautiful snow falling.Yeah I feel exactly this.
Prime, despite being a sub series has completely taken control over the legacy of Super Metroid, unfortunately.
I'm talking about the atmosphere, the mood, the horror feeling of Super.
Most of Metroid games nowadays have lessened that horror feel to a degree that is acceptable for 12 years old to play.
The imagery of Super Metroid translated in 3D should be weird, slimy, even gross sometimes.
I mean look at that :
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I mean you probably know the rest.
Fusion and Prime came out the same day. Fusion retains gore designs.
And it's exactly after that, starting with Zero Mission, that the designs were made less gory, more streamlined for a wider and younger audience.
Just look at the Kraid lair entrance in Zero Mission :
![]()
Even the NES one was more menacing :
![]()
Prime series kept the isolation, but shifted from a horror feeling to an ethereal feeling.
Heck, we're talking about beautiful vistas in Metroid now... can't say that Super was ever about that.
Just compare Fury Green from Prime 4, were everything is beautiful and almost peaceful, to Upper brinstar with its threatening brambles and weird hostile vegetation everywhere.
Volt Forge is actually what some Metroid environment should tend towards, but again, it's devoid of any horror/gore and way too streamlined for the target audience.
I really hope Nintendo will not pursue with Retro Studios (or Mercury Steam, they're way worse on art design) for the next 3D Metroid.
Prime has run its course, it's time for a new perspective with a new developer.
As someone who passionately loves Metroid - including the first two prime games, I've been trying to find the words to express my disappointment.![]()
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This should radicalize Nintendo fans
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This should radicalize Nintendo fans
I want to want this so badly, but I don't trust them not to fuck it up in some way at this point. Given the trajectory of the series, I can see them being like, "You know the problem we need to fix with Super Metroid? Players could go off the beaten track occasionally and do things out of order. Let's fix that."
I increasingly think that even Nintendo doesn't understand what made Super Metroid tick. Like maybe all the things people love about it were less intentional, and more just weird flukes.
It's always been bad if you're not a fan of on rails Metroid. It has other issues but those are more your mileage may very.So now dread is bad? You guys been smoking the best crack! .
Dread is mid af. Bad music, bad art, okish level design and a mechanic that's too over used and doesn't evolve. At least Samus' beam gets upgraded.So now dread is bad? You guys been smoking the best crack! .
Nah, Dread is goodSo now dread is bad? You guys been smoking the best crack! .
Yeah I like Dread.Nah, Dread is good
Even if there is no "Euro techno" in Dread, the game is great at selling the sense of isolation that a Metroid needs to have. The OST (or the lack of it) does what it needs to sell that feeling, and that's why I think it's great.Dread is mid af. Bad music, bad art, okish level design and a mechanic that's too over used and doesn't evolve. At least Samus' beam gets upgraded.