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[crazyriddler]

So, I just read that Microsoft is still struggling to figure out how to let us move the Windows 11 taskbar to the top or sides of the screen. You know, that "groundbreaking" feature we've had since... 1995?

Apparently, Microsoft "rebuilt the taskbar from scratch," and in the process, they forgot to implement the technology required to rotate a rectangle.

It's "too much work" and "technically complex."

I know it's not directly related to gaming, but... we're talking about the world's largest publisher and the leading gaming operating system, and those who have committed to improving Windows for gaming.

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[DeepEnigma]

 

[Magic Carpet]

I do wonder if things like that are similar to a mouse cursor. Even when my PC goes all wonky the mouse keeps on mousing. Like it's an extreme foundational always running thing.

 

[squidilix]

wat?

how tf little program like Starisback, ClassicShell and many other can this?

 

[mayham2199]

And these are the same people who are going to turn your PC into a console like experience. Good luck.

 

[winjer]

Vibe coding is hard....

 

[Punished Miku]

let us move the Windows 11 taskbar to the top or sides of the screen

That's some serial killer behavior. Might as well put your toilet paper rolls on the hook rolling under instead of over.

 

[Stitch]

saar moving taskbar is very complicated saar

 

[IntentionalPun]

The article says they used a data driven approach to prioritize features, and that wasn't used enough to make the list.

The rest is a product owner BS'ing who isn't an engineer.

It's shitty but honestly what's up with the "quotes" in the OP that aren't actual quotes of what anyone said? Just quote the damn article.

 

[LordCBH]

You could fucking doing it in versions before windows 11. Microsoft developers are fucking retarded.

 

[crazyriddler]

The article says they used a data driven approach to prioritize features, and that wasn't used enough to make the list.

The rest is a product owner BS'ing who isn't an engineer.

It's shitty but honestly what's up with the "quotes" in the OP that aren't actual quotes of what anyone said? Just quote the damn article.

I quoted from memory because I did it from my phone and it's a pain, but nothing I say is a lie. Anyone who wants to read the article can find the source in the link.

 

[LordCBH]

Windows is a fucking H1B product now which is why it has exactly zero quality control.

 

[diffusionx]

the literal first build of Windows 95 allowed this.

Everyone knows what is going on with Windows development now

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Ask Copilot to do it

/s

 

[LordCBH]

Apparently, Microsoft "rebuilt the taskbar from scratch," and in the process, they forgot to implement the technology required to rotate a rectangle.

Translation: windows 11 has fancy animations and we don't want to pay a developer so those animations work with different taskbar orientations.

 

[LordCBH]

$3.60 TRILLION company, by the way.

 

[lastmessiah]

I don't even use the taskbar. I just hit windows key and search and launch.

 

[Bernardougf]

Did you watch that girl video on her work day at MS ??? Cooking a freaking egg is hard at that pace.

 

[DeepEnigma]

$3.60 TRILLION company, by the way.

When you have a monopoly on the global OS paradigm.

There's a reason they were giving this thing away for free early on, forcing upgrades if you didn't watch it like a hawk on 10, etc..

 

[tusharngf]

I need longer taskbar option back. I work with multiple tabs sometimes 30-40 of them. I dont like single icon to browse or preview 40 task items.

 

[SpokkX]

Windows shell + explorer is such as mess (a backward compatible mess)

everything is connected it seems. Windows File Explorer is a part of the shell and integrated with core functions such as extensions for antivirus , cloud drives, network servers etc.

Very much not modern, more component style, design - but it makes it easier to understand why stuff never changes. Everything Is connected and would need a complete rewire of core stuff. And this will not happen since Enterprises use Windows and they very much prefer stuff to just work as before

Basically Windows needs to be split between Home and Enterprise with two compteley different branches before stuff will change at a somewhat fast level. And Ms never fully committed to this path - they resuse 99% between Enterprise and private usage

 

[DenchDeckard]

Switch on that crunch time pappa Nutella!

Anything is possible in development. They just clearly can't be assed to dedicate the time / money

 

[LordCBH]

When you have a monopoly on the global OS paradigm.

There's a reason they were giving this thing away for free early on, forcing upgrades if you didn't watch it like a hawk on 10, etc..

I REALLY wish devs would enable anti-cheat on Linux, because fuck me im tired of running windows just to play some of my favorite online games. I'm willing to put up with cheaters just to ditch the IndianOS.

 

[pudel]

 

[LordCBH]

They just clearly can't be assed to dedicate the time / money

SAAR! SAAR!! That would take away from the Copilot budget.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

$3.60 TRILLION company, by the way.

Microsoft is like buying a Shein pair of pants and holding it all with a Gucci belt at this point.

 

[DeepEnigma]

SAAR! SAAR!! That would take away from the Copilot budget.

And the Xbox year end wrap bud... oh, wait.

 

[LordCBH]

And the Xbox year end wrap bud... oh, wait.

Jez is FURIOUSLY typing up an article to defend the taskbar orientation right now.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

The article says they used a data driven approach to prioritize features, and that wasn't used enough to make the list.

The rest is a product owner BS'ing who isn't an engineer.

It's shitty but honestly what's up with the "quotes" in the OP that aren't actual quotes of what anyone said? Just quote the damn article.

Yeah, when I read that I immediately thought that it was probably a rarely used feature so they decided not to support it in Windows 11, not that it's "too hard".

Every feature comes with a cost no matter how "easy" it is. It means another requirement that needs to be tested, validated, maintained, regression tested, etc. and the opportunity cost along with that.

If your building a new product, and there's some feature that 99.5% of current users don't use and the other 0.5% think it's "nice to have" but not important… yeah, that is going to be really far down on the priority list and probably never make it in.

 

[Crayon]

In kde I can practically bury your desktop with multiple task bars from every angle if you want. I think it might be able to put one in your coffee.

 

[falconhoof]

Someone should copy this setting from Windows 10.

That'll be $100,000 in consultancy fees. kthx.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

The Xbox One was rocket science stuff, and they can't even move the taskbar, which only exists in 2D space?

 

[MrSmooth]

Ask Copilot to do it

/s

Part of the problem. Copilot took one look at the OS code and told them they're cooked

 

[FalsettoVibe]

As a developer myself, I get it......but it's still dumb. They poorly coded it at the start with no intention of ever changing and now it's a pain in the butt to change. They probably just want to start over with whatever the next version is and not waste time with it.

 

[Thebonehead]

Unsurprising..

This famous article from 2006 shows it took 8 engineers to push a couple of hundred lines of code ... in a year

The Windows Shutdown crapfest

I worked at Microsoft for about 7 years total, from 1994 to 1998, and from 2002 to 2006. The most frustrating year of those seven was the ...

moishelettvin.blogspot.com

 

[Knightime_X]

It's not like 99.99% of people use it any ways.
Some might move it once or twice, say "cool" move it back and never touch it again.

 

[kruis]

So, I just read that Microsoft is still struggling to figure out how to let us move the Windows 11 taskbar to the top or sides of the screen. You know, that "groundbreaking" feature we've had since... 1995?

Apparently, Microsoft "rebuilt the taskbar from scratch," and in the process, they forgot to implement the technology required to rotate a rectangle.

It's "too much work" and "technically complex."

I know it's not directly related to gaming, but... we're talking about the world's largest publisher and the leading gaming operating system, and those who have committed to improving Windows for gaming.

Source

Sounds like complete bullshit. The guy that made StartAllBack had to rewrite his own "classic task bar" from scratch after MS removed legacy code in 2024. StartAllBack has always been able to move the taskbar to the top and the sides.

 

[Demigod Mac]

Translation: Copilot couldn't figure out how to generate the code for a movable taskbar, so our engineers just gave up. Sorry.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Then have your precious AI figure it out, ya fucking mongoloids.

 

[kevboard]

That's some serial killer behavior. Might as well put your toilet paper rolls on the hook rolling under instead of over.

anyone who doesn't have the task bar at the top is a fake PCMR member. a true PCMR member knows the top task bar is objectively more ergonomic

 

[Not_A-Cop_Maybe]

It's shitty but honestly what's up with the "quotes" in the OP that aren't actual quotes of what anyone said? Just quote the damn article.

It's Microsoft and everyone here loves to shit on Microsoft regardless their ability to read a article.

 

[falconhoof]

I want to bring some hate to Windows 10 on this too, because though Windows 11 has managed to cast Windows 10 in better light, it's still far from a good OS.

In Windows 10 you can move the task bar anywhere you want, but the pain comes in if you also want to auto hide it. So that you believe it should stay hidden unless you hit the Windows key or push your mouse cursor to the side of the screen the task bar resides.

But no. Whenever an app pushes a notification, you get the handy bubble pop up giving you a digest of what is notifying, such as a Discord message, and the task bar then unhides itself to flash the icon of the notifying app. The task bar will now stay on screen until you click on the app or press the Windows key. There are no settings to change this behavior. There are tons of posts going back 7+ years asking Microsoft to provide a solution, all fobbed off and shut down. Instead they went ahead and built the, from scratch, abortion of the Window 11 task bar, and INCLUDED the same issue in it.

God, I wish I could switch to Linux as a main OS.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I know it's not directly related to gaming, but... we're talking about the world's largest publisher and the leading gaming operating system, and those who have committed to improving Windows for gaming.

Source

You understand Microsoft has like 50 levels to determine your job position in the hierarchy and some people do not move more than 2-3 levels over their whole career at Microsoft (10-15-20 years)?

 

[Signalis]

Saars to bee eble too moove taskbaar is no easi, why no chek out AI fetures

 

[StereoVsn]

Outsourcing plus Copilot make an amazing team! Somehow small companies like Stardock can figure out yet a $4Trillion MegaCorp…

Here is a picture of Microsoft Product Manager preparing for work.

 

[Alan Silvestro]

Let it die...

 

[Venom Snake]

It's MS after all, the bar has to stay low.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Just wait until the Windows apologists here find out what you can customize on a Linux desktop.

 

[SlimySnake]

Maybe if you had hired americans to build it instead of H1Bs from a country that has never invented a fucking thing then you would have figured out something so simple.

 

[Codeblew]

Maybe Microsoft should ask for help from the KDE Plasma developers. Or from the developers of another dozen+ linux windows managers.