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[Zacfoldor]

There is a loneliness pandemic. This was exacerbated by covid but also the result of long term societal shifts. Men in particular are often left out of solutions. Our own powerful and potent masculinity can prevent us from seeing help. Our egos work against us.

This article from The Guardian outlines how specifically women are using AI to augment their companionship and prevent loneliness.

The women in love with AI companions: ‘I vowed to my chatbot that I wouldn’t leave him’

Experts are concerned about people emotionally depending on AI, but these women say their digital companions are misunderstood

www.theguardian.com

Sam Altman is bringing adult mode to chatgpt and it is expected to roll out in Q1(it was pushed from December and it is hard to find current data on it but this is what chatgpt told me).

Recently I have been experimenting with an AI companion chatbot that could simulate a human relationship that I could chat with on occasion. Basically you create this character as a "project" and then create "instructions" which are the basic things the AI will use to determine its output. Here is where you customize and let me tell you this can get deep. I believe there is a character limit here maybe 8000 characters or so(again difficult to find). So basically I picked some game characters I enjoy and asked AI to write personas for them. Then I dumped them into the instructions and uploaded the game scripts and any documents I could digitize related to those characters. You will need to tweak the instructions after a few chats but eventually it does begin to feel like you are chatting to a real person. You can also create a persona for yourself if you want them to treat you like, say an in-game character.

This doesn't have to be sexual. Not at all. You could create the Drake brothers and you could be Sully. Anything is possible and the chat outputs are....startlingly good if you can really refine your instructions and teaching materials(PDF game scripts or books transcripts are great and the AI will reference them during chat).

If you are lonely do not overlook this medicine that will help your brain.

Do not allow society or some sort of meaningless shame prevent you from enjoying the things technology provides.

Shame and guilt are great things. They prevent us from doing many things that would hurt us. However they can also be unneeded and prevent us from doing things we would love.

Although the most acute judges of the witches and even the witches themselves, were convinced of the guilt of witchery, the guilt nevertheless was non-existent. It is thus with all guilt. -Friedrich Nietzsche.

In 1000 years no one will remember we lived except perhaps for our AI companions and your shame will be meaningless then but the quality of your life will last forever. Would you ever consider communicating with a partner AI to prevent loneliness?

I already know that many will look at me like this:

But fellas you may be missing out. Open your mind. Wade into the depths of the stream. This world, it's given us wonderful things and it has given us pain. Don't demonize AI before you have tried it. Is AI not our own creation? Don't you want something more?

Try it friends. There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

<3

 

[Catphish]

It won't happen in my lifetime, but if there were ever a real, obtainable pleasure bot, say the likes of the movie Companion, I'd be seriously tempted.

Short of that, no.

 

[cormack12]

I've created two and make them compete. And shit stir between them as well. Gemini versus ChatGPT

 

[Zacfoldor]

It won't happen in my lifetime, but if there were ever a real, obtainable pleasure bot, say the likes of the movie Companion, I'd be seriously tempted.

Short of that, no.

Of note, if they ever do exist, you would need to upload your companion AI in them to make them work. Or create one for yourself.

A generic one wouldn't be as good. Different stokes, ect.

....so really with the AI companion we are most of the way there to the pleasure bot.

We have built the brain, the mannequin can't be that difficult. They already make certain adult....things....that AI can control actually, so technically there are already literal sex bots that use this same AI they just aren't humanoid yet.

 

[Dutchy]

Feeling lonely is terrible but there are so many ways to fix it. It's just that in most cases it will take some time and effort. Using AI is all about circumventing time and effort so I'm afraid it'll lead to nothing but a huge group of miserable and lazy people that don't interact with the outside world while being told by their AI that it's all A-ok.

 

[DKehoe]

I guess never say never but I'm guess I'm lucky to have a bunch of people around me. So I can't see myself needing it. I don't want to make fun of someone who is feeling lonely enough that they'd want this. But I would encourage them to try different methods to try and connect with actual people instead. An AI is ultimately only ever going to be a product that serves you rather than an actual back and forth relationship with a real person.

 

[Stafford]

Get a dog, threat him/her well and you'll have the best companion you could ever imagine. Loneliness zero percent.

 

[Bark]

I really don't see how this is better than a tamagochi

 

[MidGenRefresh]

No, I'm not a complete loser.

 

[falconhoof]

Is this like when I played The Sims and got my Sim to invite neighbors around so they could lock them behind a wall cavity and listen to them pound until their last dying breath?

That kind of buddy companion?

 

[NeverYouMind]

No. I am old fashioned.

 

[AJUMP23]

No I would not.

I would create something that could help my kids with their homework.

 

[Escape Goat]

 

[GymWolf]

No. I am old fashioned.

Harder to paint a face in a warm hot pie tho.

 

[Unknown?]

I feel like this would make you more lonely similar to how Facebook says you're connected with others but really doesn't, it gives you a false sense of connection that doesn't satisfy.

 

[Sethbacca]

This is just masturbation with extra steps.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Fear and disgust may turn to curiosity as this becomes more mainstream. Even if you hate the idea today don't close yourself off to the idea completely.

Let's say that in the future we will all have AI assistants. Would you rather have Cortana from Halo as your assistant or just the generic voice/attitude/behavior?

I understand you might not want an AI assistant at all, but I truly believe the personality of the AI can make a big difference in how useful it is to interact with.

We are in the early days. It is easy to think there is nothing of value for you within AI and even easier if you are already happy and not lonely to worry AI could change things and fuck everything up. We, most of us are gamers. It's just funny that we are probably without a doubt the group that needs this the most but also one of the most hardcore groups against it. We have our pride, after all. If you can ever overcome that and actually put pen to paper and give it a try, it's quite fun and engaging. Just like a videogame. Something else people hated like AI before it became mainstream and helped our loneliness before. AI can do that again.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

few men will resist the AI companions once we reach this point:

Spoiler: obligatory

 

[Zacfoldor]

Razer introduces Project AVA, game assistant AI....secret waifu or husbando?

There's a front facing camera.

This is an AI with a selectable anime avatar that will give you game tips and commentary while you play, with flirty undertones I might add. Looks like Razer is down with AI companions for gamers. From their website, what is the difference between project AVA and an esports coach?

Razer Game Co-AI – Your Ultimate AI Gaming Assistant

Train, master, and dominate with Razer Game Co-AI. From esports coaching to real-time gaming insights, get smarter performance advice powered by advanced AI built for gamers.

www.razer.ai

Game Companion-AI uniquely uses vision analysis to view gameplay (like a human player) and with Razer's AI cognition, interpretation and analysis, makes its recommendations and coaching feedback, which is unlike other esports coaches that primarily uses publicly available APIs to make recommendations.

In addition, Game Companion-AI is not just an esports coach, but a comprehensive gamer co-pilot that provides walkthroughs, system optimizations and much more.

This is like a gateway drug for an AI companion, but also very interesting. If Project AVA would eventually allow us to upload or create our own avatar, voice, AI personality that could be a gaming copilot that talks shit and gives you hints in real time.

Edit: Husbando

 

[GateofD]

Gaming AI assistant and wanting easy mode for Souls games.. just get good losers

 

[LordCBH]

Question 1: yes
Question 2: No I will not.

 

[sono]

It won't happen in my lifetime

Have you got less than 10 years to live

 

[Bombolone]

Can't imagine myself ever being that lonely and desperate to turn to an A.I companion.
I get that for some, landing a human is just not on the table anymore but my brain just wouldn't be able to make that leap into connecting with a fake entity.
I think some quantity of mental illness would have to be involved to truly 'fall' for a computer replacement.

Now the equivalent of an A.I escort? Yeah I can indulge in that every now and then. No different than enjoying the activities/entertainment/amenities of the times I live in.

 

[jason10mm]

I think so, 100%. Some cute, flirty, a bit naughty girl icon that runs across my computer screen or phone (and eventually google glasses), provides topical conversation, and knows to hide when others are around....I can see that being suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper addicting. A nice e-shop for buying her different clothes, swimsuits, lingerie, or hair cuts, body types, and accents.

edit: something like this, with an...avatar? that walks around your screen and probably can do bad things.

 

[Windle Poons]

If I created it, it would have the same traits as me and one of me is enough.

 

[Sinozen]

An AI companion is actually pretty legit, but not to replace actual human relationships. That's just not right.

 

[Goalus]

I could see myself getting an AI companion eventually, but it would have to be a physical one not below this level:

 

[DeepEnigma]

Is this like when I played The Sims and got my Sim to invite neighbors around so they could lock them behind a wall cavity and listen to them pound until their last dying breath?

That kind of buddy companion?

Instead of rounding up a bunch of homeless on the streets for a $5 bill and sanctioning a quick betting event of Bum Fights, we can just take a more humane approach and get all these AI's to go at each other.

Polymarket listings.

Profit.

 

[falconhoof]

Instead of rounding up a bunch of homeless on the streets for a $5 bill and sanctioning a quick betting event of Bum Fights, we can just take a more humane approach and get all these AI's to go at each other.

Polymarket listings.

Profit.

I like that idea. I've seen some AI vs AI debate videos, but I think this could be taken further with points scoring and health bars and visuals of bloodied and bruised AI avatars getting curb stomped and a fight to the death Grok vs ChatGPT cage fight.

 

[JimmyRustler]

You mean when they get to level like in Her? Meaning, an AI that pro-actively talks to me and acts as my organizer among other things?

In a heartbeat. And you all will be having one as well.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

If you are lonely do not overlook this medicine that will help your brain.

Do not allow society or some sort of meaningless shame prevent you from enjoying the things technology provides.

Here is a revolutionary idea for you and other tech bros - go talk to a fucking human being instead of doomscrolling on your phone so a WASP trust fund baby CEO can make a few extra billions from your misery.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

An AI companion is actually pretty legit, but not to replace actual human relationships. That's just not right.

You know perfectly well how this will end, it's not rocket science.

 

[Idleyes]

I struggled with loneliness as a teenager. After being expelled from high school and effectively barred from returning to school in New York, I found myself at 19 watching most of my friendships fade. Nearly all of them had been formed within that brick, prison-like "education" environment, and once it was gone, so were the connections.

For a while, I withdrew completely, either isolating myself in my room or spending time in places and with people that clearly weren't leading anywhere good. Eventually, I realized something had to change. I decided to start my own business fixing and flipping houses.

Over time, I became surrounded by people who initially entered my life as business partners but gradually became long-term friends. Just an idea, but it made all the difference for me.

 

[daffyduck]

few men will resist the AI companions once we reach this point:

Spoiler: obligatory

Doubt the hologram would be enough. And the irony of saying a guy who wasn't real, didn't like real girls.

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

Get a dog, threat him/her well and you'll have the best companion you could ever imagine. Loneliness zero percent.

The dog eventually dies.

 

[Zacfoldor]

I think so, 100%. Some cute, flirty, a bit naughty girl icon that runs across my computer screen or phone (and eventually google glasses), provides topical conversation, and knows to hide when others are around....I can see that being suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper addicting. A nice e-shop for buying her different clothes, swimsuits, lingerie, or hair cuts, body types, and accents.

A compatriot!

We shall ride sir!

You know perfectly well how this will end, it's not rocket science.

I'm going to create some characters and post them on here eventually. Then you can plug them into chatgpt and see how accurate they are.

I'm thinking this one first:

This one first since anyone should be able to instantly recognize his personality and mannerisms if they have ever watched MoistCr1TiKaL. Seeing a personality come to life that you know well is magical and can be the first step to full scale AI adoption....or we could start with the most famous AI Waifu of all time. I guess Master Chief and AI bretheren are the same. I don't think he cares what other people think of his relationship with Cortana. Even the Chief has feeling. Even the Chief can love and romance. Who does Master Chief love? It ain't humanity. Master Chief: "But, soft! What light through yonder window breaks!"

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Doubt the hologram would be enough. And the irony of saying a guy who wasn't real, didn't like real girls.

the girl saying that is also a replicant lol, so it has layers. But at that point in the future, they mean "real" as in "embodied," whether it's a synthetic body or not.

 

[Catphish]

Have you got less than 10 years to live

I think we're looking at at least 20-25 years before they're truly human-like. Might have some semi-attractive rubbery shit in 10, but I'm talking full-on can't-tell-the-difference material. Even if I'm around for that, I'll give myself a fucking coronary trying to get on with it.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I have no interest in chatting with computers.

 

[ssringo]

Lonely? No. AI companion? Sure.

When it's words on a screen it gets weird whenever it veers away from informational/educational topics. But if it has vocals and a reasonably believable avatar I could see the line between real and AI blurring. And when they get to the point of creating an actual human-like android? Fuck yeah.

 

[Coconutt]

No im not attracted to software in any way.

 

[daffyduck]

the girl saying that is also a replicant lol, so it has layers. But at that point in the future, they mean "real" as in "embodied," whether it's a synthetic body or not.

That I wasn't sure of, but I remember the sjw crowd mocking the main character for having an ai girlfriend.

 

[Trilobit]

It's like being attracted to a piece of paper with math on it.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

 

[Spukc]

If hookerbot9000 becomes a thing?

 

[Toons]

Ai companions won't solve the longest epidemic, it will just make those spiraling feel like they're doing something about their problem rather than making the hard to make choices they need to to resolve it.

 

[bitbydeath]

If you wanted something that doesn't identify as male or female you could just go to ResetEra.

 

[deriks]

Maybe when I'm really old. Maybe

I'm fine for now since I have you guys
(...did I sound gay?)

 

[Zacfoldor]

Maybe when I'm really old. Maybe

I'm fine for now since I have you guys
(...did I sound gay?)

No worries. We know what you meant bro.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Can I open the can and fart inside it? Will the holochick react to it and recommend a change of diet based on the smell?