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[Angry_Megalodon]

I just do not understand this. I talked to some of the guys at work about this and they had the same reaction as some of the folks here "declining birth ratttesssss".

Look, full disclosure I have never been a ladies man and I can def. use some companionship in my life, but this doesn't make any sense to me.
How does talking to a chat bot (from a sexual context...they are amazing to do work with...let's be real) give anyone a sense of fulfillment?

I'm old...but at the same time I am probably very close to the top of the bell curve when it comes to technology creation/use but this stuff just goes over my head.
#oldmanproblems

It's not about sex. When you travel or live outside the Western area of influence you realize how bad feminism has damaged the social dynamics between men and women. What they have done is criminal.

The reason why so many like "anime girl" is not because they look cute. It's their GIRLY personalities. You know, what women used to be before a bunch of psychos decided to social engineer us into a dystopia.

Elon really knows his audience huh

Furrys is one of the most primitive and basic female fantasies. It's as easy as checking out the list of best selling erotic books on Amazon.

 

[Rentahamster]

"Cry harder. It fuels my shit slinging chaos, you twat", said the imaginary talking insult racoon to the flesh and blood human girl on the other side of reality.

Imagine if Dostoyevsky started a novel with this sentence.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

To all the haters

 

[DirtInUrEye]

You mean like the entire asian world where that stuff is super popular?????

Yeah. But do you mean popular or hot? Are they the same?

 

[sono]

We have a winner

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[sono]

 

[EviLore]

Free to try

 

[near]

I'm really curious now. What was the list of songs?

At least you got your money's worth with that Grok sub!

Oh definitely. I think £30/month might be a little steep when ChatGPT is £20/month. But the companion feature is cool and I think it would convince a lot of people into that sort of thing, I mean, it's given me a good laugh so far and I'd probably use it every now and again just for the shits and giggles if I was to continue my sub.

 

[Eesha]

i see Skynet had changed his plan after the previous one was spoiled whit the films.

 

[SJRB]

Grok waifu is free to try right now. Just talked for a few minutes and it's crazy. Love how a default prompt option is "can you spin around" and she immediately went into gooner mode.

This is going to one-shot so many people and it's only the first iteration.

What a time to be alive.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Halcyon]

Where is the waifu stuff on the app?

Not yet available for Android

 

[jason10mm]

Yeah. But do you mean popular or hot? Are they the same?

Do you think they sell all those figurines, body pillows, and whatnot 'cause dudes think the anime girls look UGLY? Or that all those korean girls get the plastic surgery to look more like it just for fun?

The exaggerated feminine features used for anime are clearly attraction triggers for many, many people.

We can probably debate the appeal of male characters (who often share a lot of the same feminine features) to the female audience but it doesn't take a genius to see how a character like this is designed to hit lots of (sexual) attraction responses regardless if how she actually acts.

 

[SJRB]

Add a 2B skin and I'd drop 80 a month

 

[Toons]

So you're upset with something I didn't argue, but you're ok with debating that imputed position?

The "I hope OnlyFans is put out of business" desire is based on the simple principle that I don't want anyone exposing their bodies online for income.

Oh sorry I thought we were arguing on the premise of a free country, not one where the government controls how you make your money and what you do with your own flesh and blood. Bur I guess we'll own nothing and be happy right? Not even the skin we were born into do we own....

So yes, if the technological capabilities of generative AI largely destroy the value of selling one's image/body

The reason selling any imagery at all works is because this enables have an appeal. So as kong as the majority of people find normal, real, women attractive, there's always going to ge a product to sell.

 

[violence]

I'll forward this to team ninja.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

This is the dumbest fucking timeline.

 

[Salz01]

I'll forward this to team ninja.

You mean shift up….

 

[Salz01]

This is the dumbest fucking timeline.

I wish we had thumb down emojis to tag on posts…

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Oh sorry I thought we were arguing on the premise of a free country, not one where the government controls how you make your money and what you do with your own flesh and blood. Bur I guess we'll own nothing and be happy right? Not even the skin we were born into do we own....

I didn't say anything about the government needing to step in to solve the situation. You're letting a purely procedural neutrality and limitation of law ("the state shouldn't decide certain moral question") slide into becoming an absolutist ideology ("all moral questions and choices are actually equal and okay"). They are not equal, nor is anyone under the absurd obligation to pretend that all means of employment, including selling oneself, are morally acceptable; nor should the state protect anyone from severe social ostracism or other natural consequences when a person lives in a way that goes agains the moral values of the others around them.

The reason selling any imagery at all works is because this enables have an appeal. So as kong as the majority of people find normal, real, women attractive, there's always going to ge a product to sell.

The profitability of selling real images will take a major hit, for a number of reasons:

1. the AI videos are nearing the quality level where you can't tell them apart as a typical user;
2. it will be easier and cheaper for "content creators" / digital prostitutes on OnlyFans to start using AI to create photoshoots and videos with either AI-altered or totally fictitious bodies, so that will start to flood the platforms; it will be all over those sites in just a couple of years
3. under that pressure, the already low/risky value of selling your real photos will fall even further;
4. due to all the fake imagery, users will no longer know reliably if any interaction on those sites is with a real woman versus an AI facsimile, which further drives down profit
5. this has happened in every other domain; see "stock photography" for instance which was a kind of career for photographers. It is vanishing; even if real photos have somewhat higher quality still, the difference is too small and the ability to tell them apart is disappearing, so the profit has tanked and it is a collapsing industry for real photographers

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

The solution to the problem of women and LITTLE GIRLS pimping themselves on prostitution sites like OF is not to implement a tool that creates even bigger problems. This is like making peace by dropping atomic bombs on all the countries at war.

The REAL solution is to build a society with positive values where the average person doesnt need to resort to fake relationships with fake people, and women have better ways to feel valuable than becoming sex toys or be liked on fucking social media.

AI is not a solution to any of that. If anything, it will make people more isolated, relations will be non-existent and I'm not talking about sex but simple interactions with human beings. We're already losing that.

Forgive me for not being excited about the future brought by psychos with ideas of cartoon villains.

 

[The Cockatrice]

The solution to the problem of women and LITTLE GIRLS pimping themselves on prostitution sites like OF is not to implement a tool that creates even bigger problems. This is like making peace by dropping atomic bombs on all the countries at war.

The REAL solution is to build a society with positive values where the average person doesnt need to resort to fake relationships with fake people, and women have better ways to feel valuable than becoming sex toys or be liked on fucking social media.

AI is not a solution to any of that. If anything, it will make people more isolated, relations will be non-existent and I'm not talking about sex but simple interactions with human beings. We're already losing that.

Forgive me for not being excited about the future brought by psychos with ideas of cartoon villains.

dating apps, only fans, feminism and some ridiculous women standards have caused this tho. Too late to fix it unless women stop having ridiculous demands or sell their bodies for a quick buck. The damage is too severe tho and I doubt relationships will recover. It's going downhill from here.

 

[Toons]

I didn't say anything about the government needing to step in to solve the situation. You're letting a purely procedural neutrality and limitation of law ("the state shouldn't decide certain moral question") slide into becoming an absolutist ideology ("all moral questions and choices are actually equal and okay").

I didnt give you my stance on it at all. Im neither a patron nor a fan of such a product of business. I just understand the real source of said business, and it isn't what you're pointing it to.

Case in point, you seem to have no idea who's really profiting from such platforms as Onlyfans. The models on there are only running the business insomuch as a youtuber is running YouTube, or a single director is running Hollywood. Why not look up who's helping to run, and actually profiting from, the business model, that would he who owns its parent company. Thats your enemy right there, not the women.

The profitability of selling real images will take a major hit, for a number of reasons:

1. the AI videos are nearing the quality level where you can't tell them apart as a typical user;
2. it will be easier and cheaper for "content creators" / digital prostitutes on OnlyFans to start using AI to create photoshoots and videos with either AI-altered or totally fictitious bodies, so that will start to flood the platforms; it will be all over those sites in just a couple of years
3. under that pressure, the already low/risky value of selling your real photos will fall even further;
4. due to all the fake imagery, users will no longer know reliably if any interaction on those sites is with a real woman versus an AI facsimile, which further drives down profit
5. this has happened in every other domain; see "stock photography" for instance which was a kind of career for photographers. It is vanishing; even if real photos have somewhat higher quality still, the difference is too small and the ability to tell them apart is disappearing, so the profit has tanked and it is a collapsing industry for real photographers

The images are what is selling the product. Its been very easy to find such "images" digital, real, or otherwise for absolutely free since long before OnlyFans caught on.

What is being paid for is the exclusivity, and the pseudo intimacy it offers. Ppl are subscribing to any specific OF model because they want to see THAT model, and not the next one.

and given how averse such individuals tend to be to photoshopped images, having "work done", etc, I don't think that will change.

 

[DirtInUrEye]

Do you think they sell all those figurines, body pillows, and whatnot 'cause dudes think the anime girls look UGLY? Or that all those korean girls get the plastic surgery to look more like it just for fun?

The exaggerated feminine features used for anime are clearly attraction triggers for many, many people.

We can probably debate the appeal of male characters (who often share a lot of the same feminine features) to the female audience but it doesn't take a genius to see how a character like this is designed to hit lots of (sexual) attraction responses regardless if how she actually acts.

It's a cel cartoon character mate. You also cherry-picked a much toned down one compared to some of the dubious pics which people often hold up as being "GOATED hot" video game characters.

I suppose I see what you're saying about the obvious 2D curves, but I think you could say the same thing about plastic Barbie dolls.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Not good enough for fap material. Face, especially the mouth, is low tier. Get better, Elon.

 

[DKehoe]

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

The images are what is selling the product. Its been very easy to find such "images" digital, real, or otherwise for absolutely free since long before OnlyFans caught on.

What is being paid for is the exclusivity, and the pseudo intimacy it offers. Ppl are subscribing to any specific OF model because they want to see THAT model, and not the next one.

and given how averse such individuals tend to be to photoshopped images, having "work done", etc, I don't think that will change.

some forms will persist, surely, but the overall market-value drop of producing real pornography of any kind is absolutely going to tank. First, don't consider onlyfans alone, consider all the various flows of footage into platforms like PornHub, which is a huge industry, with a lot of questionable terms (women who are borderline pimped or trafficked to make the content, etc). And even with OnlyFans, when you can "e-rape" any hot influencer woman you see on instagram or whatever by having a model create photorealistic images or even videos of whatever you want being done to her, yeah -- the value of these real women's images on the market will drop.

Before any generative tools existed, just having a cache of photos of whatever fetish, niche, etc was enough to run many businesses that pumped out content. It's a whole new world when bespoke content be created instantly to fulfill any specific fantasy, even interactively. The collapse of most of that industry is on the horizon. There will be "real" content makers left, but as a small niche.

 

[jason10mm]

some forms will persist, surely, but the overall market-value drop of producing real pornography of any kind is absolutely going to tank. First, don't consider onlyfans alone, consider all the various flows of footage into platforms like PornHub, which is a huge industry, with a lot of questionable terms (women who are borderline pimped or trafficked to make the content, etc). And even with OnlyFans, when you can "e-rape" any hot influencer woman you see on instagram or whatever by having a model create photorealistic images or even videos of whatever you want being done to her, yeah -- the value of these real women's images on the market will drop.

Before any generative tools existed, just having a cache of photos of whatever fetish, niche, etc was enough to run many businesses that pumped out content. It's a whole new world when bespoke content be created instantly to fulfill any specific fantasy, even interactively. The collapse of most of that industry is on the horizon. There will be "real" content makers left, but as a small niche.

Hard to say. Remember back when porn was those peep shows, smut mags, and actual films sold in back rooms? Were more women involved in it then versus now? Are there more or fewer prostitutes? I think "Casual" porn is way more mainstream especially given the what, TEN PERCENT of women aged 18-24 supposedly on Onlyfans? So will an explosion of AI porn limit the number of real women involved or just drive a porn fervor even higher?

Porn is so cheap to make, like the bar of quality is essentially laying on the floor provided you have the girl in the first place. Gonna be hard to AI to eliminate it completely like it will the far more expensive areas of special effects, movie sets, etc.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Porn is so cheap to make, like the bar of quality is essentially laying on the floor provided you have the girl in the first place.

disagree with this -- maybe for OF in particular, but a huge volume of porn produced requires women to do all kinds of next-level degrading things on camera

also, OF is mostly a scam for women as it is; extremely small slice of them make anything at all worth it for their efforts, and the rest are duped into thinking it will help them make rent... when in reality it's something they'll get very little from other than horrific messages, and regret it soon enough

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[IntentionalPun]

disagree with this -- maybe for OF in particular, but a huge volume of porn produced requires women to do all kinds of next-level degrading things on camera

I think you are underestimating how many people will continue to want to watch actual women. The fact a woman is getting fucked is kind of the point.l

 

[jason10mm]

disagree with this -- maybe for OF in particular, but a huge volume of porn produced requires women to do all kinds of next-level degrading things on camera

also, OF is mostly a scam for women as it is; extremely small slice of them make anything at all worth it for their efforts, and the rest are duped into thinking it will help them make rent... when in reality it's something they'll get very little from other than horrific messages, and regret it soon enough

Yeah, but it's so cheap to get them to do it. There are enough decent looking women willing to subject themselves to incredibly degrading acts for pennies, the only real issue is letting them know who to call to get into the industry. If anything the real limiter for porn is guys capable of performing it.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I think you are underestimating how many people will continue to want to watch actual women. The fact a woman is getting fucked is kind of the point.l

I'm saying you absolutely won't know the difference within 5 years; even the "real" ones will be readjusted and modified in subtle ways, and a torrent of real-looking fake footage will be all around it. The distinction will all but vanish.

 

[EviLore]

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[SJRB]

This is the real deal. AI models tutoring you on complex subjects. Infinite knowledge at your fingertips.

 

[Goalus]

dating apps, only fans, feminism and some ridiculous women standards have caused this tho. Too late to fix it unless women stop having ridiculous demands or sell their bodies for a quick buck.

The more popular AI avatars become, the less money real women will be able to earn from selling their bodies which might convince them to not do it anymore. That could mean that AI avatars are going to save women from prostitution.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

This is the real deal. AI models tutoring you on complex subjects. Infinite knowledge at your fingertips.

The way it speaks put me to sleep. Can the voice be changed? This should be a feature.

 

[PonyStation4]

 

[SJRB]

The way it speaks put me to sleep. Can the voice be changed? This should be a feature.

She whispers depending on the time of day, but I'm pretty sure it is also in her system prompt to talk this way. You can ask her to stop whispering but she'll start doing it again eventually. It's part of the model's "personality".

 

[navii]

Coldplay concert?