meepmeep1985
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The garbage tier screen and battery life are worse than what they had almost 10 years ago.
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The Game Business - Nintendo Switch 2 sales stumble over Christmas
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Robb
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But that wasn't the case for PS4 vs. Switch (1) either. Switch was $299 back in 2017, and the holiday deal for PS4
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kazuyamishima
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The Holiday deal was $199 for 2017, 2018 and 2019.
SomeNorseGuy
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As long as Ninty manages to push Xenoblade 4 out the door before they close up shop it's all good. 
Baemono
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I saw it at 350 during « black Friday week » in Europe this year, don't know about the US
Robb
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You're right, I was looking at some deal with a game included. That feels like nothing these days.
Well that was quite a big difference in price then.
Giallo Corsa
Member
But we Guys can happily afford a $500 Dollar Console and $80 Dollar Games without Crying
Are you seriously going with the "you're poor" shit ?
What are you, 15 years old ?
If there's anyone crying in here it's you with the constant need to defend a multi-billion company.
Fucking hell, some of you really are pathetic man children
MisterXDTV
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Exactly, even with discounts PS5 was still more expensive than it was a year before....
kazuyamishima
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€350 euros was the slim digital
€450 for the slim disc.
Switch 2 was €429 for the standalone
€449 for the MKW.
Prices weren't that different this year when you compared them to PS4 and Switch 1 back in 2017 (€199 against €299).
TKOFromTokyo
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True, but psychologically consumers don't care. They see that sale price slash from the retail price and think they're getting a great deal. There are studies that show this. This is why sometimes Black Friday deals can be worse deals but people eat them up.
VGA-Games
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Yeah, there is fucking nothing in the World that I hate more with a Passion than poor People
And that Charity called Nintendo should give away all their Video Game Consoles and Video Games for Free
Giallo Corsa
Member
Yeah, there is fucking nothing in the World that I hate more with a Passion than poor People
And that Charity called Nintendo should give away all their Video Game Consoles and Video Games for Free
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KenaiPhoenix
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But I was told by all Nintendo fans that it was a huge success and that the price was not a factor at all. How could this be?
We all said it: The price is ridiculous high for what it offers. It got lucky that the new will probably be delayed, so it doesnt shame it, but people are not going to buy it.
And there is also the point that people are moving away from gaming and spending more time in social media.
We all said it: The price is ridiculous high for what it offers. It got lucky that the new will probably be delayed, so it doesnt shame it, but people are not going to buy it.
And there is also the point that people are moving away from gaming and spending more time in social media.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Well, 20% discount during the holidays made that very obvious. Gamers did one thing right this past year, for a change.
But that line up didn't help either. all games after banana were mediocre at best, disappointing at worst.
But that line up didn't help either. all games after banana were mediocre at best, disappointing at worst.
Crayon
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Preach brother. I spent much of my adult life in poverty and only got out through a series of lucky breaks. Fucking god awful situation to be working full time and can't afford to get shit. It's constantly the first thing on your mind. Driving around on bald tires, making excuses to skip $100 nights out with your friends, going without health insurance. Ain't it funny how the factory doors close right around the time the school doors close.
Baemono
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it is
it's the cheapest handheld compared to what it offers (3Tflop, 4K, DLSS, 120hz, RT capable) for a price slighlty higher than the previous model (1080p gaming, 0.6tflops, 720p sceen) while being 9x more powerful
Robb
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Huh? Without even counting 3rd parties the year one first party lineup has been/is pretty stacked.
For comparison:
I think the issue is quality rather than the quantity.
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VGA-Games
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15 Million Gamers bought a Nintendo Switch 2 in the last 6 Months.
You wouldn't call that a Success?
Guerilla Munch
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Mario Kart World sucks compared to MK8, there is no new Mario or Zelda (not even an announcement), Metroid was a bust, not nearly enough old first party games have S2 updates, and somehow there is STILL no Call of Duty title (or any big FPS) on the platform.
Juja
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Oh man, this sounds like it's straight from the brain of Tommy Wiseau. Best thing in this thread.
dragonyeuw
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Similarly for me, my 7 year old nephew who I helped get into gaming with S1 * so far * hasn't expressed any interest in S2. And its the common story, a couple of years ago he discovered Minecraft, Fortnite and Roblox and he's quite content playing those games on his tablet and Series S( Xmas 2024 gift). The S2 for him would just be another device to play those aforementioned titles. He barely plays S1 now so yeahhhhh...
Speaking personally, I was all in on Switch 1 from launch but over the last, say,4-5 years I realized that I've moved on from most of Nintendo's IPs save for Zelda and Metroid. I would grab MP4 but I wouldn't buy a system just for it ( especiallly with the mixed reception). And, from a bang for buck perspective, I may have spent like $100 on games this past holiday but they were all cheap PC/GOG keys. It's a hard sell for me right now looking at $70 games when that amount of money can get me a handful of good games on Steam.
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yea not having a oled model was stupid.
where did you get 15 million from?The Times were different 5 Years ago than Today.
From my feeling the Prices gone rapidly up for Food, Clothing and other nessesary Stuff that you need for Living for 2 Years now, and Prices are still increasing, that wasn't the case when the PlayStation 5 released. People have nowadays less Money to spend on Entertainment Devices.
But that's absolutely my Opinion
I also don't think $500 Dollar for a new Console is to high, and Nintendo sold 15 Million Consoles in the last 6 Months, which isn't Bad
Poppinfresh
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I don't get the "price is too high" argument either. $500 seems about right for the device, compared to other handhelds currently on the market.
TheMule1983
Member
You're doing a great job at triggering the insecure Sony fanboys on here. They've been on edge the past few years with no more exclusives and terrible first party output.
Nothing has them more nervous than a competent Nintendo system that's getting decent support out the gate.
DaleinCalgary
Getting the shaft
Nintendo needs a stand alone no screen unit for cheaper than the Switch 2. The price is not family friendly.
Esquie
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Paid $500 basically just to play Bananza, which was amazing. It's been collecting dust ever since. It's just not that compelling of a device compared to how the Switch 1 shook things up when it came out. It's not different enough and there's barely any games. 2026 looks dreadful.
kiphalfton
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Without reading through the whole thread, I'm guessing it's predominantly excuses why switch 2 sales suck compared to switch 1.
You are comparing a locked platform to a PC handheld that's your problem. SD came out 3 year ago and it runs most games better in HH mode, has massive library of games, free online play, free mods, and emulation, much better ergonomics, analogs, haptic triggers and you get more storage and oled option. like lets put it this way if i can get a PC box 2-3 years earlier with ps5 power for 100$-200$ more that would be a damn steal and would have not bought a ps5. even today valve Steam box was suppose to be 800$ 5 whole years after ps5 so not the good deal you think it is. it's more like a rip off.
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Baki
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In the US, It had a worse November than Switch last year. Forget comparing launch periods!
and it was combined with switch 1.
Baki
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Yup -10% with Switch 1 included. Brutal. Price definitely an issue.
Yea that's a BS source.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Yes we are when people keep mentioning the lower priced Switch 2's price.
OuterLimits
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It has sold a significant amount despite the overall world economy atm. Nintendo is dominating in their home country of Japan and doing decently in other markets.
It is unlikely it gets close to Switch 1 sales(not many do) but it will likely finish in the 90-110 million range.
Bought switch in the past just for the sake of playing MH Rise.
Then sold to my brother and bought switch lite just for the sake of XenoX
For now unsure if ever gonna buy any nintendo console anymore,last time bkught 3da just for the sake of Monhun3u/Monhun4.
SInce its going multiplat now with World/Rise/Wild,domt have any compelling reason to buy Switch 2 for now unless suddenly Monolith decided to go all out with their next Xeno series.
Then sold to my brother and bought switch lite just for the sake of XenoX
For now unsure if ever gonna buy any nintendo console anymore,last time bkught 3da just for the sake of Monhun3u/Monhun4.
SInce its going multiplat now with World/Rise/Wild,domt have any compelling reason to buy Switch 2 for now unless suddenly Monolith decided to go all out with their next Xeno series.
Mozza
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You need to try harder.
Mozza
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The article in question, or more so the Switch part does not seem to match the doom and gloom in the headline, and is very light on actuaal sales figures. Nintendo increased their Switch 2 sales projection from 17 million to 19 million, which still seems very possible. There where reports the console had already reached 15 million units worldwide before the holiday period. And again almost no context or nuance in the article, as comparing two consoles that where launched at different times of the year is not really comparing apples with apples. I would be very surprised if the Switch 2 was still not ahead of the original console after the same time on sale.
Mozza
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You are living in a dream world if you do not think the Switch 2 will be successful. Nintendo have a lot of power with the brand, and have made it very easy for people to upgrade. You have the added exposure from the new Mario movie coming out, and lots of major franchises that will be Switch 2 exclusives yet to be announced.
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cireza
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I am just stating why it is not selling as much in my opinion. This doesn't mean the situation will never improve.
And you should also take note that this is the first time in a long time that Nintendo has delivered a timid evolution of the previous console, rather than something entirely new. Which doesn't help either.
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Sintoid
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Huh? Without even counting 3rd parties the year one first party lineup has been/is pretty stacked.
For comparison:
I think the issue is quality rather than the quantity.
Don't get me wrong but can you please take off all the Switch 1 porting from the Switch 2 game list? After that the scenario is quite depressive
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